Michael, I agree with your assessment. I will love the meteorite community to put moral pressure on Stefan and Martin so they do what’s ethical, moral and legal.
Here is a link and information from their website. Additionally, I have written confirmation from Martin on an email with unconditional warranty. There was no qualification of any kind. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/ordering-info.html ---------------------- Return policy, We grant to our non-professional customers to return all items within 1 month after the date of purchase for any reason at full refund - given the item being in the same condition as it was sent (except custom made goods). For the case, that you are not fully satisfied with your specimen, please contact us immediately. ------------------------- > From: Martin Altmann [mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:37 PM > To: Naveen Jain > Subject: AW: Few thoughts.. > > Hi Naveen, > >>As we discussed in the past, I am assuming that you will happily return >>any of the meteorite that I don't like after I look at them for a full >>refund. > > Nja."happily". perhaps not :-) ; > But of course that is our business standard. > And btw. here in Germany we have a strong consumers protection. By law we > would be obligated to take back everything sold via internet, if the buyer > returns it within 3 weeks. Does anyone see any doubt on what I was promised in the email for them not to honor their obligations. Warm regards, Naveen Naveen Jain Founder - Moon Express, Intelius, InfoSpace Board of Trustee – X Prize Foundation, Singularity University http://www.linkedin.com/in/naveenjainintelius From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteoriteguy.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:04 AM To: Andreas Gren Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Stefan Ralew and Martin Altmankickedout of IMCAfor illegal activities Did they promise a 30 day return policy? Is that on their site? If so and by the emails it seems they violated all terms offered to Mr Jain. They are in the wrong and Mr Jain is right. If the board ruled unanimously, where is the problem? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:50 AM, "Andreas Gren" <i...@meteoritenhaus.de> wrote: > Thanks Matthias and Siegfried, > same bad feelings here. > > Andi > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Matthias > Bärmann > Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. August 2011 15:48 > An: siegfr...@haberer-meteorite.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: i...@imcamail.de > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Stefan Ralew and Martin Altman > kickedout of IMCAfor illegal activities > > > Siegfried, list, > > I agree. Without knowing the details I'm bewildered and can't believe what I > read on the list today. > > Mr. Jain is an extremely rich man and of course a tempting possible client > for every meteorite dealer. Especially this fact makes me pensive. > > In any case: Martin Altmann and Stefan Ralew are rightly highly reputated > meteorite dealers, experts, members of the worldwibe meteorite community > since a long time. (Btw. the name of Mr. Jain I've read the first time some > hours ago.) I know especially Martin as someone who never hesitates to help > with his enormous knowledge of the matter. We all on this list know his > knowledgeable and engaged postings, quite often flavoured with a good pinch > of humour. > > If I'd be a member of IMCA, such an event would make me think about whether > it wouldn't be time to leave this association too. > > With regret, best regards, > Matthias > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <siegfr...@haberer-meteorite.de> > To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Cc: <i...@imcamail.de> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:28 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Stefan Ralew and Martin Altman kicked out > of IMCAfor illegal activities > > >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> I would like to express my regret that Martin Altmann, Stefan Ralew, and >> Greg >> Catterton are no longer members of the I.M.C.A. >> >> Martin Altmann ist one of the fairest and most reliable persons I got to >> know in >> my life. I also have great respect for his expert knowledge which he >> acquired on >> many subjects. >> >> My regret is deep. >> >> Best regards >> >> Siegfried >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __________ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6343 > (20110802) __________ > > E-Mail wurde geprft mit ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6343 > (20110802) __________ > > E-Mail wurde geprft mit ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
