Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-17 Thread Jeff Kuyken
@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide We differ some Mark, in that a bolide is not just a fireball showing framentation-- such as we saw in the Peekskill fireball. IMO, historically and by traditional use: a bolide is not just

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Bowling
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide We differ some Mark, in that a bolide is not just a fireball showing framentation-- such as we saw in the Peekskill fireball.  IMO, historically and by traditional

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-17 Thread Impactika
One last (?) comment regarding bolide; Yes it comes from the Latin, and is really a French word, used in France in relation to racing cars. And it really should be pronounced just like solid. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-17 Thread Chris Peterson
://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide I largely agree, Chris, and like the overuse of the term

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Regine Petersen
: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Montag, 17. Januar, 2011 21:54 Uhr Just to reiterate, the term bolide is best avoided when precision is required- not because it is undefined, but because it is overdefined! It means one thing to (most

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Chris Peterson
://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Regine Petersen fips_br...@yahoo.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb Hi all, can some

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2011 22:39 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Chris Peterson Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb Hi all, can some of you explain to me the similarities of an exploding meteor and a nuclear bomb? There seem to be a lot

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Regine Petersen
...@meteorite-martin.de schrieb am Mo, 17.1.2011: Von: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Montag, 17. Januar, 2011 23:23 Uhr Hi Regine, because the TNT

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread John L
:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb Hi Regine, because the TNT-equivalent is the most common form to give the measure of energy released in an explosion. Big impacts of meteorites release a lot of energy due to the mighty kinetic energy

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Barrett
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Regine Petersen Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Martin Altmann Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb Thank you Chris and Martin, which brings me

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb

2011-01-17 Thread Regine Petersen
Ha, exactly what I mean... *scratch head* --- Barrett barret...@comcast.net schrieb am Di, 18.1.2011: Von: Barrett barret...@comcast.net Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-The Bolide and the Nuclear Bomb An: 'Regine Petersen' fips_br...@yahoo.de, Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-16 Thread MEM
-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, January 15, 2011 7:53:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many different things. Fireball unambiguously means a meteor of a specific apparent

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 (term: bolides)

2011-01-16 Thread Martin Altmann
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Sterling K. Webb Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2011 04:04 An: Chris Peterson; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-16 Thread Mark Bowling
  - Original Message From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 2:47:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide I largely agree, Chris, and like the overuse of the term oriented

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-16 Thread MEM
of iron particles, etc. Elton - Original Message From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 12:11:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide Hi all, I have understood from my study that a bolide refers

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-16 Thread al mitt
to all. --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide Hi all, I have understood from my study that a bolide refers

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-16 Thread Jonathan E. Dongell
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:59 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-16 Thread lebofsky
- From: Barrett barret...@comcast.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 The definitive source WIKIPEDIA!! Says; MeteoroidThe current official definition of a meteoroid from the International

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide

2011-01-16 Thread Martin Altmann
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101-Bolide Hi all, I have understood from my study that a bolide refers to a meteor that breaks up - not requiring the detection of an audible report because, if observed from a distance, the sound may not be heard

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 (term: bolides)

2011-01-16 Thread Sterling K. Webb
! Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 (term: bolides

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, The term meteor refers to the light phenomenon as an object from space enters the Earth's atmosphere. What is the proper term for the object itself? A meteoroid is an object in space. Is it still called a meteoroid when it enters the Earth's atmosphere? -Walter

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Darryl Pitt
Fun question! In the office working on this Saturday evening and thankful for this distraction ;-) I'm going to go with what you've surmised: meteoroid until striking Earth's surface. all best / d On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, The term meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Count Deiro
reserved. Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net Sent: Jan 15, 2011 3:13 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hello Everyone, The term meteor refers to the light phenomenon

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
-list] Meteorites 101 Fun question! In the office working on this Saturday evening and thankful for this distraction ;-) I'm going to go with what you've surmised: meteoroid until striking Earth's surface. all best / d On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
it? I thought from the plasma. -Walter - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hi Walter

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread R. Chastain
does the term Bolide figure in as compared to a fireball? I haven't found a good description of the difference. Rod --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 To: Walter Branch waltbra

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Thanks for the definition. Let's see if I have this straight Meteoroid = in space Meteor = The act of the previous meteoroid entering the atmosphere and producing light. Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Message - From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:13 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hello Everyone, The term meteor refers to the light phenomenon as an object from space enters the Earth's

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread R N Hartman
; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hi Walter and all, This may be the acceptable nomenclature METEOR (mt-r) 1. A bright trail or streak of light that appears in the night sky when a meteoroid enters

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: R. Chastain suen...@yahoo.com To: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread GeoZay
Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many different things. Fireball unambiguously means a meteor of a specific apparent brightness. Bolide is simply confusing. I usually think of a fireball as a meteor with a magnitude brighter

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Hankey
@meteoritecentral.com; Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Thanks for the definition. Let's see if I have this straight Meteoroid = in space Meteor = The act of the previous meteoroid entering the atmosphere

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Meteorite1 meteori...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Meteor, meteorite, and meteoioid: In response to the American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
- Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 See I always thought bolide was a a large fireball that fragmented

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Barrett
...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:59 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many different things. Fireball

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Barrett
: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Meteor, meteorite, and meteoioid: In response to the American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company, which is reported here to have stated that the object itself may be termed a meteor while

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Hankey
: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 See I always thought bolide was a a large fireball that fragmented. Is it safe to say only bolides become meteorites? So the scale of bigness: meteor, fireball, bolide, super bolide. Super bolides are the ones shaking homes and =-24 magnitude. Great

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Interesting...I did not know that. So why is it then that folks on the met list only care about the boomers that happen 3-5 times a year and write off the minor events

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Most researchers I know consider the body to be a meteoroid while it is in its meteor phase. The term meteoroid is used to specifically

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Stuart McDaniel
So when does a meteoroid become an asteroid?? (or vice versa) -Original Message- From: Count Deiro Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:30 PM To: Walter Branch ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hi Walter and all, This may

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
...@earthlink.net; Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 So when does a meteoroid become an asteroid?? (or vice versa

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Bolidc: The term was first used, in the French language, in 1834. The French

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
Hello Stuart: We have had this conversation before. Your second question(when does an asteroid become a meteoroid): There is no real minimum asteroid size or maximum meteoroid size. When it comes up as a question, I usually say 5 or 10 meters is the crossover. Also, if an asteroid gets hit by

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net; Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 So when does a meteoroid become an asteroid

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Bolidc: The term was first used, in the French language, in 1834. The French is derived from classical Latin bolis (generally bolidis), fiery meteor, originally from the classical Greek, βολις, missile