[meteorite-list] AD: Black Beauty NWA 11220 Christmas offering
Paid AD 1 of 12: Hi all, As a nod to the beginning Christmas season and in the spirit of Christmas cheer, I am offering the XXL NWA 11220 Black Beauty display boxes for £100 instead of the usual £140 and I will even cover shipping :-) This offer has already been taken advantage of by a few on facebook but in total I am offering 10 boxes at this special price. After that the price reverts to normal. You can see these display boxes on my website here: (http://msg-meteorites.co.uk/tradesale/meteorites-for-sale/ lunar-and-martian-specimens/nwa-11220-martian-basaltic-breccia-black-beauty/ ) Makes a great sticking filler for any meteorite aficionado :-) Cheers Martin Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387 Sent from my mobile phone -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 11220 FULL slice up for auction
Hi all, I have put up for auction on Ebay a FULL slice of NWA 11220 Black Beauty Martian meteorite. If interested you can see the auction here: (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-11220-Black-Beauty-Martian- meteorite-FULL-slice-in-display-box-/253231113621) Also, my remaining specimens of NWA 11220 can be seen on my website here: (http://msg-meteorites.co.uk/tradesale/meteorites-for-sale/ lunar-and-martian-specimens/nwa-11220-martian-basaltic-breccia-black-beauty/ ) Once they're gone they're gone, no more in stock. All the best :-) Cheers Martin Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387 Sent from my mobile phone -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Black beauty , Diogenite Carbonaceous ....
Hello Lists we hope every one is well , we have a few items available for sale at competitive prices ,please feel free to contacte us off list if you are interested to see what we have Thanks -- Rachid Chaoui IMCA # 4157 https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /> Garanti sans virus. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Black Beauty endcut NWA 11220
Paid ad Hi all, I have an end cut of Black Beauty NWA 11220 for sale. Weight is 0.85g, with crust all over apart from the cut face. This is the only end cut of NWA 11220 available and gives the best of both worlds, a cut and polished face, a reverse covered in crust and it's thick enough to easily handle. Priced at £1700, photos available to those with any interest, just drop me a line :-) Cheers Martin Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387 Sent from my mobile phone __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Black Beauty NWA 11220 endcut for sale
Hi all, I have an end cut of Black Beauty NWA 11220 for sale. Weight is 0.85g, with crust all over apart from the cut face. This is the only end cut of NWA 11220 available and gives the best of both worlds, a cut and polished face, a reverse covered in crust and it's thick enough to easily handle. Priced at £1700, photos available to those with any interest, just drop me a line :-) Cheers Martin Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387 Sent from my mobile phone __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Black Beauty, New Lodranite and So Much More!
Hi all, Ebay auctions ending soon http://www.ebay.com/sch/mr-meteorite/m.html?item=321393025457ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Black Beauty http://www.mrmeteorite.com/blackbeautynwa7034.htm NEW Lodranite Meteorite - Likely pairs with NWA 8118 This lodranite is unique in that it has large prominent green clinopyroxene grains. http://www.mrmeteorite.com/meteoritesforsale.htm Translucent Diogenite http://www.mrmeteorite.com/nwa7831slices.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - BLACK BEAUTY Webpage just updated!
Hello All, FYI: We just updated our Black Beauty Webpage with some very thin (0.4 - 0.9 mm!) slices for a great weight/surface ratio: http://www.spacejewels.ch/SpaceJewels/Black_Beauty_for_sale.html Our ebay auctions: http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= Thank you, Marc and Peter Marc Jost - IMCA #2375 http://www.spacejewels.ch Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 http://www.thinsections.ch http://www.marmet-meteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty Webpage just updated! Great ebay-Auctions: 2.4 g of Wold Cottage, Stunning thin sections, pieces with original label, SHER-slice, HED, ...
Hello All, FYI: We just updated our Black Beauty Webpage: http://www.spacejewels.ch/SpaceJewels/Black_Beauty_for_sale.html Furthermore, we have 36 auctions on ebay, ending in about 2 days, most starting @ $ 1.99: We have a small slice of NWA 8171 aka Black Beauty, a lot of great thin sections, several stunning HEDs, Historic ones and many more... Please see all auctions here: http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= Thank you, Marc and Peter Marc Jost - IMCA #2375 http://www.spacejewels.ch Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 http://www.thinsections.ch http://www.marmet-meteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Black beauty NWA7034
Congratulations Aid, very nice piece. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Aid Mohamed aidmoha...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hello List I have an nice stone of NWA 7034, weigh 30.4g Enjoy the picture via this link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34968236@N08/ Who's interested contact me off the list at : azawad...@yahoo.fr best regards Aid __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Black beauty NWA7034
Wonderful!!~ - Original Message - From: Aid Mohamed aidmoha...@rocketmail.com To: list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad: Black beauty NWA7034 Hello List I have an nice stone of NWA 7034, weigh 30.4g Enjoy the picture via this link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34968236@N08/ Who's interested contact me off the list at : azawad...@yahoo.fr best regards Aid __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Carl, I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used as proof of water on Mars. Thank you! Mendy On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Hi Mendy, No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows something new. In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous -- especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply! Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl, I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used as proof of water on Mars. Thank you! Mendy On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Hi Jason, I wasn't aware that there were slices of Black Beauty cut by anyone other than Matt Morgan or myself. We both used distilled water. As you can imagine, I am much more interested in Black Beauty science than the business end -- I'll let others worry about the market value. What's that slogan again in the VISA ads? Best, Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:37 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
A sterile set of manual tools works wonders - good old fashioned cleave/break/chip. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/14/13, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Mendy, No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows something new. In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous -- especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply! Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl, I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used as proof of water on Mars. Thank you! Mendy On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
I agree, in fact I have done numerous break/chip/cleave on BB, especially for the destructive analyses for isotopes. But the flat surfaces from saw cuts, ground and polished, are needed for microprobe and SEM. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: A sterile set of manual tools works wonders - good old fashioned cleave/break/chip. :) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/14/13, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Mendy, No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows something new. In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous -- especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply! Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl, I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used as proof of water on Mars. Thank you! Mendy On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel:
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Hello Carl, On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic lubricant. S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not been 'messed with' after making inquiries. And, yes, that statement applies. Perhaps not to the material from the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen for sale has come from other sources. I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it does not surprise me that you would have curated it well. Though I will say that it was a bit steep. Regards, Jason On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Carl Thanks for clarifying the point on the cutting. All additional pieces of authentic Black Beauty that are publicly available through my site were cut in distilled water by Kerf Industries. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites Http://www.mhmeteorites.com Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Get the popcorn, the Black Beauty wars have begun. It would make a great reality show. Wait till the flood from Morocco comes. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Carl Thanks for clarifying the point on the cutting. All additional pieces of authentic Black Beauty that are publicly available through my site were cut in distilled water by Kerf Industries. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites Http://www.mhmeteorites.com Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty
Mike...that's what I'm hoping forlet me know when it happens ;-) Graham On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Get the popcorn, the Black Beauty wars have begun. It would make a great reality show. Wait till the flood from Morocco comes. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Carl Thanks for clarifying the point on the cutting. All additional pieces of authentic Black Beauty that are publicly available through my site were cut in distilled water by Kerf Industries. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites Http://www.mhmeteorites.com Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Hi Jason, I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM? The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine diamond wire. If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011. PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few other stones. Please see our website for available specimens. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php Thanks! Jason IMCA 7630 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Black Beauty available and Tucson goodies
Good Morning: I am pleased and honored to offer slices of NWA 7034, aka Black Beauty. These were cut with the Kerf Industries wire saw just a couple of days ago and polished to 1500 grit. Thanks to Dr. Agee and Dr. Piatek for helping bring this material to the marketplace. Visit http://www.mhmeteorites.com I am heading to Tucson in a couple of hours and will be bringing some material with me: both Black Beauty and other great meteorites. If you want to meet up call me at 720-346-8606 or email me at this address. Thanks! Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
