[meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means!

2006-12-22 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Rob,

You are completely right.
I used the worst phrasing I could!
Wanted to write by ALL means...No misspelling, no odd translation (in 
French it just means the same), just... rush and inadvertence! And I used 
it twice!
Now I also realize that even by all means is not strong enough to express 
my support to Bernd. I agree that perhaps by all measures would be more 
appropriate to use here.

Rob, thank you very much for the remark that certainly now throws more 
light on what I had in mind. My error was not even humorous, just 
unintentional, as I could never have imagined writing my friend Bernd would 
be far from the best choice...I wouldn't write that even for an ennemy!
Bernd, who is as fluent in English as he is in...French!, most certainly 
understood my poor phrasing and corrected by himself. He knows all about my 
appreciation of his achievements, erudition and his always friendly willing 
to help.

Finally Rob, your remark not only helps removing doubts regarding my 
appreciation of Bernd's achievements and kindness but is perhaps here the 
best advertising for his nomination. I am so very happy he is being 
unanimously proposed.

All my best wishes for Christmas and a happy New Year 2007 (with many finds 
and, why not, some falls into your backyards ?) to all of you, English 
natives or speaking, overchannel (UK), overseas (US), down 
under(Austr.  NZ) and...wherever in the world.

Don't forget, Ensisheim-2007 is now expecting your visit! A sweet 
opportunity to learn some essential...French!

Zelimir

A 12:19 21/12/2006 -0800, vous avez écrit :
Hi Zelimir,

When I read the beginning of your message, I thought you were about to 
suggest nominating a name OTHER than Bernd -- which of course would be 
perfectly fine to do.  Only upon reading your whole message did it occur 
to me that, as good as your English is (which is excellent by the way), it 
isn't your first language, so you wouldn't necessarily realize the 
unintentionally humorous errors in your post:

Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination.

I think what you meant to say was something like Bernd is by all measures 
the best candidate deserving such a nomination.  The way you've worded 
it, you're suggesting that Bernd isn't even close to being the best choice 
(implying that you can think of many others more deserving).  ;-)

I'm pretty sure it's just a translation oddity from French to English, as 
you use the by no means phrase (again, with humorous result) at the end 
of your post: ...on behalf of many silent listees from my area who ... 
are by no means honored to have him as friend.  I'm sure your intent was, 
of course, very honored.  ;-)

I certainly agree that Bernd is an excellent choice assuming public 
nomination for a Harvey Prize is acceptable protocol.

Best wishes and Joyeux Noël from across the Pond,

Rob

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Mark, List

Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination.
I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second
the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my
area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions
related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means
honored to have him as friend.

Excellent idea Mark!

Best wishes for 2007 to all,

Zelimir

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Re: [meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means!

2006-12-22 Thread Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge

Merry Christmas to you too Zelimir,

and you are another fine candidate!
I sure hope Rob will have the chance of meeting you some day!
And not only Rob, every one on this list who hasn't had the opportunity.

Sincerely,
Moni



From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CC: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means!
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:04:50 +0100

Hi Rob,

You are completely right.
I used the worst phrasing I could!
Wanted to write by ALL means...No misspelling, no odd translation (in
French it just means the same), just... rush and inadvertence! And I used
it twice!
Now I also realize that even by all means is not strong enough to express
my support to Bernd. I agree that perhaps by all measures would be more
appropriate to use here.

Rob, thank you very much for the remark that certainly now throws more
light on what I had in mind. My error was not even humorous, just
unintentional, as I could never have imagined writing my friend Bernd would
be far from the best choice...I wouldn't write that even for an ennemy!
Bernd, who is as fluent in English as he is in...French!, most certainly
understood my poor phrasing and corrected by himself. He knows all about my
appreciation of his achievements, erudition and his always friendly willing
to help.

Finally Rob, your remark not only helps removing doubts regarding my
appreciation of Bernd's achievements and kindness but is perhaps here the
best advertising for his nomination. I am so very happy he is being
unanimously proposed.

All my best wishes for Christmas and a happy New Year 2007 (with many finds
and, why not, some falls into your backyards ?) to all of you, English
natives or speaking, overchannel (UK), overseas (US), down
under(Austr.  NZ) and...wherever in the world.

Don't forget, Ensisheim-2007 is now expecting your visit! A sweet
opportunity to learn some essential...French!

Zelimir

A 12:19 21/12/2006 -0800, vous avez écrit :
Hi Zelimir,

When I read the beginning of your message, I thought you were about to
suggest nominating a name OTHER than Bernd -- which of course would be
perfectly fine to do.  Only upon reading your whole message did it occur
to me that, as good as your English is (which is excellent by the way), 
it

isn't your first language, so you wouldn't necessarily realize the
unintentionally humorous errors in your post:

Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination.

I think what you meant to say was something like Bernd is by all 
measures

the best candidate deserving such a nomination.  The way you've worded
it, you're suggesting that Bernd isn't even close to being the best 
choice

(implying that you can think of many others more deserving).  ;-)

I'm pretty sure it's just a translation oddity from French to English, as
you use the by no means phrase (again, with humorous result) at the end
of your post: ...on behalf of many silent listees from my area who ...
are by no means honored to have him as friend.  I'm sure your intent 
was,

of course, very honored.  ;-)

I certainly agree that Bernd is an excellent choice assuming public
nomination for a Harvey Prize is acceptable protocol.

Best wishes and Joyeux Noël from across the Pond,

Rob

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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee

Mark, List

Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination.
I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second
the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from 
my

area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions
related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means
honored to have him as friend.

Excellent idea Mark!

Best wishes for 2007 to all,

Zelimir

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ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15

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