[meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
I agree Shawn...The first two do look lunar though...but not the ones they say...and the last looks like the NWA Chassignite 2737!!! I just looked through some others and I think several other of the lunar slices are mixed up too. They need to be told I think before they get circulated under the wrong names or folks end up getting something different from the photos when they bidnot good. Perhaps someone on this list is auctioning them through Bonhams? Graham, UK On 13 April 2011 08:12, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
100% not Zagami. Images and Descriptions became shuffled. On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Shawn Alan wrote: Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
I have a question about the exceedingly rare meteorites in question. Why does Bonhams devalue these meteorites by stripping them of their provenance and chain of ownership history? Why are they being sold without the supporting information of where they originated from? It does not seem to be in the best interest of the buyer Best Regards, John Higgins IMCA#9822 www.fusioncrust.com - Original Message From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 6:46:32 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. 100% not Zagami. Images and Descriptions became shuffled. On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Shawn Alan wrote: Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar alGani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Shawn and List, I have several specimens of both Nakhla (including a 2.1 gram example from the British Museum) and Dar al Gani 400. Neither resemble the Bonham offerings. Maybe those on List with more knowledge than I can identify what meteorites are depicted. Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 13, 2011 12:12 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
All three images might be a lunar but in no way Zagami-- a dun colored rock. Elton - Original Message From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 3:12:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Hello Graham, Not a chassignite, but you're close...ish. The DaG 400: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Lunar+meteoritesmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=17042 The Zagami: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Lunar+meteoritesmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=7063 I'm sorry there aren't any good photos of slices there, but I know the stone well. The Nakhla looks to be from this set of pairings: http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/dhofar0489.htm But since they look so similar, it would be very hard to tell the exact number from whence it came. I haven't looked through the rest of the catalog, but from what I just saw, it looks like they've botched things up royally. Thomas Heitkamp must be quite the specialist; I wish someone would pay me for nothing more than (not) knowing about things. Regards, Jason On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:27 AM, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: I agree Shawn...The first two do look lunar though...but not the ones they say...and the last looks like the NWA Chassignite 2737!!! I just looked through some others and I think several other of the lunar slices are mixed up too. They need to be told I think before they get circulated under the wrong names or folks end up getting something different from the photos when they bidnot good. Perhaps someone on this list is auctioning them through Bonhams? Graham, UK On 13 April 2011 08:12, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Hello Listers I found the Zagami slice. http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3182/ Its a Lunar NWA 4472 and I think I located the Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3187/ Its a Lunar NWA 3160 oops... I think they are all mixed up I hope thats just on the image side and not with the meteorites they are auctioning off. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 03:12:59 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Life Survives in a Meteorite 12APR1961 50 years Ago Next message: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] Life Survives in a Meteorite 12APR1961 50 years Ago Next message: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Most of the lots have now been changed but still one does not seem right..eg A partial slice of the lunar NWA 2727 chassignite meteorite. http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=usascreen=LotDetailsiSaleItemNo=4984589iSaleNo=19371iSaleSectionNo=3sServer=http://images2.bonhams.com/sPath=2011-04/13/8295255-7-2.jpg Didn't know there were lunar chassignites!!! Think it should be 2737 and read Martian. Graham On 13 April 2011 08:22, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: All three images might be a lunar but in no way Zagami-- a dun colored rock. Elton - Original Message From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 3:12:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
