Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE
Martin: Milton is unique in large part because of it's olivine composition. I've taken Fig. 2 from the LPSC2003 abstract you mention below and added a point (red) for Conception Junction (our analyses). http://meteorites.wustl.edu/Conception_Junction__Milton.jpg Milton is off by itself whereas Conception Junction plots near the Main Group pallasites. Randy Korotev At 05:01 AM 2011-08-27 Saturday, you wrote: Sorry if this is a double post but the first one doesn't seem to 'get through': Hello Dave, Karl A., Dr. Wasson and list, If the beautiful Conception Junction is 'unique' and not paired to any main group pallasite (Dr. Wasson), could it in any way be paired to the ungrouped pallasite MILTON, found less than 60 km away in the west of Conception Junction? Milton 'looks' very different from Conception Junction though... MILTON: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Pallasite%2C+ungroupedsfor=typesants=falls=valids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=16691[../../jump.htm?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lpi.usra.edu%2Fmeteor%2Fmetbull.php%3Fsea%3DPallasite%252C%2Bungrouped%26sfor%3Dtypes%26ants%3D%26falls%3D%26valids%3D%26stype%3Dexact%26lrec%3D50%26map%3Dge%26browse%3D%26country%3DAll%26srt%3Dname%26categ%3DAll%26mblist%3DAll%26rect%3D%26phot%3D%26snew%3D0%26pnt%3DNormal%2520table%26code%3D16691] http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1683.pdf Dr. Wasson was involved in the classification of Milton as well and might know. Can anyone help with an answer? Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Interesting composition! Might this hint the meteorite may be extra solar? a visitor from another star system? only time will tell! Cheers Steve Dunklee --- On Sat, 8/27/11, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote: From: Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test To: 'Michael Fowler' mqfow...@mac.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 11:50 PM Michael All, Dr. Wasson submitted his classification of the Conception Junction pallasite (PMG) to the Nomenclature Committee last month, and presumably it will be posted to the Meteorite Bulletin before long. Since much of this information is not publicly available at the moment, please find below an excerpt from Dr. Wasson's contribution to the monograph. He also complied an interesting chart for comparative analysis, but I'm not sure how to post that information with plain text. Anyway, hope this helps answer some of the good questions that have been posted: The information I report here shows there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. If I compare Conception Junction with other main group pallasites (PMG) with Au contents within 10% of that in Conception Junction (i.e. in the range 2.0 to 2.5 mg/g Au), only Seymchan and PCA 91004 have Ir concentrations within a factor of two of that in Conception Junction. If I sort on Ir, I find that there is no other PMG among the 40 that I have studied that has a closely similar Ir value. The nearest are Pescora Escarpment 91004 (0.76 mg/g Ir), Seymchan (0.67 mg/g) and Barcis, a scarcely studied Russian PMG (0.32 mg/g Ir). The Co content of this sample is high (6.0 mg/g). If I sort my PMG data on the basis of Co, I find that there are three irons with higher Co, namely Krasnojarsk, Rawlinna 001 and one sample of Phillips County, and a couple more that are slightly lower, namely Springwater and Zaisho. The Ni content is also rather low, as is shown in the chart below comparing Conception Junction to PCA 91004, Seymchan, Barcis and Krasnojarsk. In summary, the composition of the metal in Conception Junction differs from all other known pallasites. All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Fowler Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Michael Fowler Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Wasson's statement that: .there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. leaves open the question at to what is the classification? Is it ungrouped, or perhaps, main group anomalous? I would be most interested to know the major and trace element analysis so I could form my own opinion. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Chicago __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE
Sorry if this is a double post but the first one doesn't seem to 'get through': Hello Dave, Karl A., Dr. Wasson and list, If the beautiful Conception Junction is 'unique' and not paired to any main group pallasite (Dr. Wasson), could it in any way be paired to the ungrouped pallasite MILTON, found less than 60 km away in the west of Conception Junction? Milton 'looks' very different from Conception Junction though... MILTON: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Pallasite%2C+ungroupedsfor=typesants=falls=valids=stype=exactlrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=16691[../../jump.htm?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lpi.usra.edu%2Fmeteor%2Fmetbull.php%3Fsea%3DPallasite%252C%2Bungrouped%26sfor%3Dtypes%26ants%3D%26falls%3D%26valids%3D%26stype%3Dexact%26lrec%3D50%26map%3Dge%26browse%3D%26country%3DAll%26srt%3Dname%26categ%3DAll%26mblist%3DAll%26rect%3D%26phot%3D%26snew%3D0%26pnt%3DNormal%2520table%26code%3D16691] http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1683.pdf Dr. Wasson was involved in the classification of Milton as well and might know. Can anyone help with an answer? Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Hi Karl I must say great find on the new pallasite to you all your team. Scott Johnson U.S. AirBorne Sport Aviation LLC Eagles Nest Airpark Sport Pilot C.F.I WSC-L WSC-S www.usairborne.com i...@usairborne.com Office 509-780-0554 Cell 509-780-8377 -- From: Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:46 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Dear List, Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to the meteorite community: Conception Junction, Missouri. Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am reposting this link as a test. Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !! Karl Aston __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Wasson's statement that: …there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. leaves open the question at to what is the classification? Is it ungrouped, or perhaps, main group anomalous? I would be most interested to know the major and trace element analysis so I could form my own opinion. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Chicago __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Michael All, Dr. Wasson submitted his classification of the Conception Junction pallasite (PMG) to the Nomenclature Committee last month, and presumably it will be posted to the Meteorite Bulletin before long. Since much of this information is not publicly available at the moment, please find below an excerpt from Dr. Wasson's contribution to the monograph. He also complied an interesting chart for comparative analysis, but I'm not sure how to post that information with plain text. Anyway, hope this helps answer some of the good questions that have been posted: The information I report here shows there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. If I compare Conception Junction with other main group pallasites (PMG) with Au contents within 10% of that in Conception Junction (i.e. in the range 2.0 to 2.5 mg/g Au), only Seymchan and PCA 91004 have Ir concentrations within a factor of two of that in Conception Junction. If I sort on Ir, I find that there is no other PMG among the 40 that I have studied that has a closely similar Ir value. The nearest are Pescora Escarpment 91004 (0.76 mg/g Ir), Seymchan (0.67 mg/g) and Barcis, a scarcely studied Russian PMG (0.32 mg/g Ir). The Co content of this sample is high (6.0 mg/g). If I sort my PMG data on the basis of Co, I find that there are three irons with higher Co, namely Krasnojarsk, Rawlinna 001 and one sample of Phillips County, and a couple more that are slightly lower, namely Springwater and Zaisho. The Ni content is also rather low, as is shown in the chart below comparing Conception Junction to PCA 91004, Seymchan, Barcis and Krasnojarsk. In summary, the composition of the metal in Conception Junction differs from all other known pallasites. All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Fowler Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Michael Fowler Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Wasson's statement that: .there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. leaves open the question at to what is the classification? Is it ungrouped, or perhaps, main group anomalous? I would be most interested to know the major and trace element analysis so I could form my own opinion. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Chicago __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Way to go, Karl, Dave, and Robert! That's great. A big congrats to you guys as well! Robert Woolard Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to the meteorite community: Conception Junction, Missouri. Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am reposting this link as a test. Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !! Karl Aston __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
I released it just now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Jeff On 8/27/2011 7:50 PM, Dave Gheesling wrote: Michael All, Dr. Wasson submitted his classification of the Conception Junction pallasite (PMG) to the Nomenclature Committee last month, and presumably it will be posted to the Meteorite Bulletin before long. Since much of this information is not publicly available at the moment, please find below an excerpt from Dr. Wasson's contribution to the monograph. He also complied an interesting chart for comparative analysis, but I'm not sure how to post that information with plain text. Anyway, hope this helps answer some of the good questions that have been posted: The information I report here shows there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. If I compare Conception Junction with other main group pallasites (PMG) with Au contents within 10% of that in Conception Junction (i.e. in the range 2.0 to 2.5 mg/g Au), only Seymchan and PCA 91004 have Ir concentrations within a factor of two of that in Conception Junction. If I sort on Ir, I find that there is no other PMG among the 40 that I have studied that has a closely similar Ir value. The nearest are Pescora Escarpment 91004 (0.76 mg/g Ir), Seymchan (0.67 mg/g) and Barcis, a scarcely studied Russian PMG (0.32 mg/g Ir). The Co content of this sample is high (6.0 mg/g). If I sort my PMG data on the basis of Co, I find that there are three irons with higher Co, namely Krasnojarsk, Rawlinna 001 and one sample of Phillips County, and a couple more that are slightly lower, namely Springwater and Zaisho. The Ni content is also rather low, as is shown in the chart below comparing Conception Junction to PCA 91004, Seymchan, Barcis and Krasnojarsk. In summary, the composition of the metal in Conception Junction differs from all other known pallasites. All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Fowler Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Michael Fowler Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Wasson's statement that: .there is no main-group pallasite that is closely related to Conception Junction. Conception Junction is unique. leaves open the question at to what is the classification? Is it ungrouped, or perhaps, main group anomalous? I would be most interested to know the major and trace element analysis so I could form my own opinion. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Chicago __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Dear List, Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to the meteorite community: Conception Junction, Missouri. Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am reposting this link as a test. Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !! Karl Aston __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test
Congratulations, Dave, Robert and Karl Superb Pallasite. It stands alone. Great science. I want one! Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 26, 2011 2:46 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Dear List, Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to the meteorite community: Conception Junction, Missouri. Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am reposting this link as a test. Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !! Karl Aston __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE
Hello List and Karl, Very cool, congratulations Karl, how many kilo's were recovered? How many does that make for Missouri now? Best, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Karl Aston stlouismeteori...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CONCEPTION JUNCTION, MISSOURI PALLASITE - AD/test Dear List, Dave Gheesling, Robert Ward and I have introduced a new pallasite to the meteorite community: Conception Junction, Missouri. Information about North America's 20th pallasite can be found here: www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com I was unable to post earlier due to incorrect email settings and I am reposting this link as a test. Thanks... and enjoy this beautiful meteorite !! Karl Aston __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
