Re: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-27 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) I suppose you are correct. I suspect the iron flecks in chondrites must be stellar relics. The iron is formed

Re: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
PM Subject: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) I suppose you are correct. I suspect the iron flecks in chondrites must be stellar relics. The iron is formed in the cores of all stars. Nuclearly speaking it is the stablest of all elements (lowest

Re: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-27 Thread Gerald Flaherty
. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:30 AM Subject: Re: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi, Rob, Pete, Ed

RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-25 Thread Pete Pete
. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:53 + (GMT) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which chondrules were formed in relatively very few privileged zones of space. They would

Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-25 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions

Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-25 Thread Pete Pete
: Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0400 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during

Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-25 Thread Pete Pete
PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0400 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova

RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-25 Thread Rob McCafferty
. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:53 + (GMT) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which chondrules were formed in relatively very few privileged zones of space

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread Rob McCafferty
3:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi Sterling, If the dates are right, the problem becomes how did that many identical atoms get together in one place so that the chondrules could form? Since this question has

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread Rob McCafferty
I like this theory very much. (I particularly like it because it allows the structure to form the way i described it) Rob McC --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think crystal formation in a fluid preceded the choundrule formation. Seems standard mineralogy and crystalography answer

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - molecules of a feather flock together? why? If they did, then say an initial detonation of our sun could have been the heat which fused them together. I think speculation on this kind of blast has been bandied about much recently. good hunting, Ed --- Rob McCafferty [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread Sterling K. Webb
- From: Warin Roger To: Sterling K. Webb ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread lebofsky
@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which chondrules were formed in relatively very few privileged zones of space

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread Rob McCafferty
--- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob - molecules of a feather flock together? why? This is the most blatant speculation on my part and I have not looked it up to check this (though to be fair, I didn't make the comment above, I just like it) but this is what I think and no

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-23 Thread E.P. Grondine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi Sterling, If the dates are right, the problem becomes how did that many identical atoms get together in one

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-23 Thread Mr EMan
--- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem still remains what caused sufficient number of atoms of the same type to be in the same place at the same time to produce the crystals and glasses observed. I think crystal formation in a fluid preceded the choundrule formation. Seems

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-22 Thread Rob McCafferty
Ed Thanks for the reply. I'd really like to take a look at any data but to help be more specific on my requirements I'll give you an outline on my idea. The appearance of the unaltered chondrites seems to show that the outer rim of the chondrules are of a significantly diferent structure to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - You noticed the contradiction in cooling periods as well. What I am thinking is that there was at least one larger parent body which was disrupted about 3.9 Gya (at time of LPBE). When this larger parent body was disrupted, then the effervescent foaming that led to some chondrules

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi Rob - You noticed the contradiction in cooling periods as well. What I am thinking is that there was at least one larger parent

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-21 Thread Rob McCafferty
Hi list What I have ben able to find personally on chondrule formation is rather sketchy. Even the otherwise comprehensive Encyclopedia of Meteorites by O. Richard Norton seems to skim over the mechanism in a paragraph. It's almost as if there is something which defies explanation and

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
jeez Bob, and all I was trying to do was to come up with a good excuse to personally examine that Krasnojarsk RSPOD Oct 15. You're just about ready to handle some of my asteroid and comet impact correspondence. Ed --- Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list What I have ben able