[meteorite-list] Introduction and question

2014-08-30 Thread Jan Marius Evang via Meteorite-list
Hi.
I got hooked on meteorites by following Prof Mike Brown's coursera
course. After this I started watching ebay and reading what I could
google.

I don't really know where I'm going with this hobby but I have aquired
a lot of small meteorite samples, and I have ordered a microscope, at
least. I also tried to cut open an unknown nwa meteorite with a
rough tile-saw and could clearly see metal specks at least.


The question:
A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of rocks that look like
meteorites to be found in the area where he lives, and the story is
that they are remains of an old volcano. The school's science teacher
cut one open and decided it was Pyrite.

A google search really gave me nothing except this facebook page, what
is the feeling of the experts about this?

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.270484833096946.1073741837.263110637167699type=1

I'd also be happy for other advice in the direction of my new hobby.

Yours
Jan Marius Evang
Norway
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction and question

2014-08-30 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Although I'm far from an expert, they look terrestrial to me, see
http://www.meteorite-times.com/bobs-findings/meteor-wrongs/ and
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/mw/mw.htm.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jan Marius Evang via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I got hooked on meteorites by following Prof Mike Brown's coursera
 course. After this I started watching ebay and reading what I could
 google.

 I don't really know where I'm going with this hobby but I have aquired
 a lot of small meteorite samples, and I have ordered a microscope, at
 least. I also tried to cut open an unknown nwa meteorite with a
 rough tile-saw and could clearly see metal specks at least.


 The question:
 A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of rocks that look like
 meteorites to be found in the area where he lives, and the story is
 that they are remains of an old volcano. The school's science teacher
 cut one open and decided it was Pyrite.

 A google search really gave me nothing except this facebook page, what
 is the feeling of the experts about this?

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.270484833096946.1073741837.263110637167699type=1

 I'd also be happy for other advice in the direction of my new hobby.

 Yours
 Jan Marius Evang
 Norway
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction and question

2014-08-30 Thread Anne Black via Meteorite-list

Thank you Michael, those are good sites.
I would add this one: 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/more_info_nonlunar.htm   particularly all 
the pages with hundreds of pictures of meteorwrongs.

Very educational.
And to Jan Marius, I would recommend you contact Morten Bilet, a fellow 
Norwegian. As far as I remember there is no such a thing as sedimentary 
meteorites, and all those pictures look like very terrestrial rocks.

Be careful!

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Although I'm far from an expert, they look terrestrial to me, see
http://www.meteorite-times.com/bobs-findings/meteor-wrongs/ and
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/mw/mw.htm.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jan Marius Evang via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

Hi.
I got hooked on meteorites by following Prof Mike Brown's coursera
course. After this I started watching ebay and reading what I could
google.

I don't really know where I'm going with this hobby but I have aquired
a lot of small meteorite samples, and I have ordered a microscope, at
least. I also tried to cut open an unknown nwa meteorite with a
rough tile-saw and could clearly see metal specks at least.


The question:
A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of rocks that look like
meteorites to be found in the area where he lives, and the story is
that they are remains of an old volcano. The school's science teacher
cut one open and decided it was Pyrite.

A google search really gave me nothing except this facebook page, what
is the feeling of the experts about this?



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.270484833096946.1073741837.263110637167699type=1


I'd also be happy for other advice in the direction of my new hobby.

Yours
Jan Marius Evang
Norway
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[meteorite-list] Introduction

2010-05-16 Thread Shea Gorzelanczyk
Hello everyone,  
My name is Shea Gorzelanczyk, and my children and I found a 142 gram 
full fusion west of Mineral Point on April 18th. My thanks to Tim Heitz for the 
invite to the board and to Steve Arnold and UW Madison for bringing me up to 
speed on meteorites. 
 I am looking for information on; entry trajectory, detonation heights, and 
also any strewn fields that have been mapped out (or GPS coordinates and 
weights of any found meteorites)I greatly appreciate any info that is given to 
me. 
 I am planning another camping / hunt with my children, and any info would 
be helpful. 

Thank you much,
Shea
GBSR
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction

2010-05-16 Thread Joe Kerchner
Congrats on the great find. and Tim is a very very great guy, he has helped me 
out a lot to. You found the right guy.

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



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Subject: [meteorite-list] Introduction

Hello everyone,  
My name is Shea Gorzelanczyk, and my children and I found a 142 gram 
full fusion west of Mineral Point on April 18th. My thanks to Tim Heitz for the 
invite to the board and to Steve Arnold and UW Madison for bringing me up to 
speed on meteorites. 
 I am looking for information on; entry trajectory, detonation heights, and 
also any strewn fields that have been mapped out (or GPS coordinates and 
weights of any found meteorites)I greatly appreciate any info that is given to 
me. 
 I am planning another camping / hunt with my children, and any info would 
be helpful. 

Thank you much,
Shea
GBSR
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[meteorite-list] Introduction and some cool photos

2009-03-27 Thread Dan Brumleve
Greetings Listoids,

Hello, I am new to the list and to meteorites.  Please enjoy these
microscopic photographs of my four pallasite slices:

http://free.radio.su/meteorites.html

These are taken at 100X and 400X with a ProScope, at or near the
olivine-iron boundary.  I'm pretty curious about some of these
features, especially on the Brenham.  Is it just surface rust?

Dan in Pacifica
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction and some cool photos

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Mason
Dear Dave,  Very good micro-photographs. I have seen these on many
pallasites under my microscope.  Analysis has shown me that the rust looking
trails are the remains of iron oxide solutions from galvanic corrosion
action under either surface coatings or Olivine xls. They micro blast off
easily. You may have heard that I have shown that many of our meteorites are
loaded with water after plunging into earth soil that contains water vapor
and with 14.7 #/sq shoves water vapor into the shocked meteorite. Oxygen
and other elements enter the meteorite and then have a field day supporting
the earlier galvanic action process. My goal is to help our knowledge of
meteorite preservation be a universal capability. 

Bill Mason III  rusty

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Introduction and some cool photos

Greetings Listoids,

Hello, I am new to the list and to meteorites.  Please enjoy these
microscopic photographs of my four pallasite slices:

http://free.radio.su/meteorites.html

These are taken at 100X and 400X with a ProScope, at or near the
olivine-iron boundary.  I'm pretty curious about some of these
features, especially on the Brenham.  Is it just surface rust?

Dan in Pacifica
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[meteorite-list] introduction

2007-01-10 Thread Michael Murray
Hi all,
I seriously doubt if any of you know me. However, I just wanted to  
say hi to the list members.   I'm interested in meteorites.  I hunt  
them and study them (strictly amateur in all respects I assure you).   
I have a few, although small, they have been under my microscope more  
times than I can count.
I'm trying to learn what I can about them.  This list is packed full  
of knowledge and I am excited about what I can pick up from you all.

I'm not a dealer and most likely will not be buying meteorites.  I am  
for the most part aimed squarely at increasing my knowledge on the  
subject of meteorites.  I will share what info I have and any of my  
pictures if I can figure out how to do that online.  I'm old ya know  
and don't cotton to computers real good.

Anyway, I hope this posts when I hit the button.. Hi to all.

Mike Murray
Western Colorado 
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Re: [meteorite-list] introduction

2007-01-10 Thread Bill


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:25:55 -0700
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] introduction
 
 Hi all,
 I seriously doubt if any of you know me. However, I just wanted to
 say hi to the list members.   I'm interested in meteorites.  I hunt
 them and study them (strictly amateur in all respects I assure you).
 I have a few, although small, they have been under my microscope more
 times than I can count.
 I'm trying to learn what I can about them.  This list is packed full
 of knowledge and I am excited about what I can pick up from you all.
 
 I'm not a dealer and most likely will not be buying meteorites.  I am
 for the most part aimed squarely at increasing my knowledge on the
 subject of meteorites.  I will share what info I have and any of my
 pictures if I can figure out how to do that online.  I'm old ya know
 and don't cotton to computers real good.
 
 Anyway, I hope this posts when I hit the button.. Hi to all.
 
 Mike Murray
 Western Colorado
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Re: [meteorite-list] introduction

2007-01-10 Thread Trace
Hi Michael,

Welcome to the list.

Trace



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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] introduction


 Hi all,
 I seriously doubt if any of you know me. However, I just wanted to  
 say hi to the list members.   I'm interested in meteorites.  I hunt  
 them and study them (strictly amateur in all respects I assure you).   
 I have a few, although small, they have been under my microscope more  
 times than I can count.
 I'm trying to learn what I can about them.  This list is packed full  
 of knowledge and I am excited about what I can pick up from you all.
 
 I'm not a dealer and most likely will not be buying meteorites.  I am  
 for the most part aimed squarely at increasing my knowledge on the  
 subject of meteorites.  I will share what info I have and any of my  
 pictures if I can figure out how to do that online.  I'm old ya know  
 and don't cotton to computers real good.
 
 Anyway, I hope this posts when I hit the button.. Hi to all.
 
 Mike Murray
 Western Colorado 
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Re: [meteorite-list] introduction

2007-01-10 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Mike, and welcome as a contributor to the meteorite list.  Here's looking
to some fresh grist for the mill, especially on those days we, or our
discussions, start feeling as old as the meteorites themselves!  Of course
your comment left me wondering, of the few meteorites you do have, if you
found any of them?

Best wishes,
Doug

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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] introduction


 Hi all,
 I seriously doubt if any of you know me. However, I just wanted to
 say hi to the list members.   I'm interested in meteorites.  I hunt
 them and study them (strictly amateur in all respects I assure you).
 I have a few, although small, they have been under my microscope more
 times than I can count.
 I'm trying to learn what I can about them.  This list is packed full
 of knowledge and I am excited about what I can pick up from you all.

 I'm not a dealer and most likely will not be buying meteorites.  I am
 for the most part aimed squarely at increasing my knowledge on the
 subject of meteorites.  I will share what info I have and any of my
 pictures if I can figure out how to do that online.  I'm old ya know
 and don't cotton to computers real good.

 Anyway, I hope this posts when I hit the button.. Hi to all.

 Mike Murray
 Western Colorado
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[meteorite-list] Introduction...

2006-08-03 Thread Menno A. Mennes



Dear Adam, and 
All,

I guess I owe you an 
apology for sending my private mail to the entire list, sorry about 
that...

Perhaps a good 
occasion for presenting myself to the list though, as I am following the 
postings for the last 4-5 years without really introducing 
myself.
Although I am 
working in an entirely different field as a psychologist and a university 
lecturer, I have always been fascinated by everything from outer-space. I am 
from the lunar-landing Apollo generation and since I found out about meteorites 
being sold at Ebay I have spent most of my spare time (and money ;-) ) on 
building up a collection through the last five years or so. I have specialized 
on collecting smaller stones and am currently "focused" on martians, which is 
why I sent my mail to Adam.

I'd like to take the 
opportunity to thank so many of you dealers, especially Adam Hupé, Mike Farmer 
for making the collecting of meteorites possible. In addition Imuch 
appreciate the enormous amount of interesting info I have been able to obtain 
from so many of you from the list. It really is a pleasure to be part of it 
all.

Again apologizing to 
Adam, and sending you all my very best regards fromthe 
Netherlands!

Menno 
Mennes

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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction

2005-12-16 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks for your warm welcome Adam.  I have a few samples of NWA and have 
considered going 
on my own search there, but until I know more I'll stick to searching here in 
the USA.  
I'll be joining the various societies and other mailinglists to be sure I go 
about things 
correctly.

Great to be here!

Gary

On 15 Dec 2005 at 13:11, Adam Hupe wrote:

 Hi Gary,
 
 Welcome to the List and to collecting meteorites. I would say you got into
 collecting at the right time. I say this because of the amount of material
 that is now available to collectors is immense. Just a few years ago, there
 was not much selection as far as rare material goes.  Now, thanks to
 Northwest Africa (Sahara Desert) and other hot deserts the selection is
 outstanding. The prices are in tune with the amount of supply and are the
 best I have seen so your timing seems perfect.  A few years from now I am
 sure some collectors will be kicking themselves for not taking advantage of
 the present situation.
 
 Instead of a handful of meteorite hunters, there are now thousands if you
 count the nomads who have been the most successful at recovering these rare
 objects. Then we have a group of hunters here in the United States who have
 become increasingly successful at recoveries in the Mojave Desert. Add to
 this Steve Arnold's recent, outstanding and record breaking Pallasite find
 and you have the makings of some pretty exciting times.  I almost forgot the
 Europeans and Russians who have come up with some excellent material as well
 and have been at it for a long time.
 
 Dave Carothers pointed out the presence of the International Meteorite
 Collectors Association (IMCA). This is a great not-for-profit group of
 collectors, dealers and scientists who are here to serve this great
 avocation. Their members adhere to the strictest standards and a
 well-written Code of Ethics to help insure that collectors will be getting
 the real deal.  Meteorite collecting as a hobby is starting to mature and
 the IMCA will be there to add much needed professionalism. Sit back and
 enjoy the dynamics that are now in play and will be there in the future to
 insure continued growth and satisfaction.
 
 Best Wishes and Welcome Aboard,
 
 
 Adam Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 Team LunarRock
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[meteorite-list] Introduction

2005-12-15 Thread Gary K. Foote
Hello Listers,

I wanted to post, as a new member of this list, a bit of introduction.  I
have been an amateur atronomer since I was a child and have only recently
begun collecting meteorites after finding a meteorwrong [vesicular basalt]
here in New England.  I have purchased a number of meteorites from eBay
over the last month or so.  I also plan to pick up a metal detector and do
some hunting on my own, with GPS of course.  Time for some strewfield
stidies.

I have a question for the list;

Is there an ethical market for meterowrongs?  I've seen a few go on eBay,
but don't know whether people really lnow what they are buying when they
bid on these items.  You can view my meteorwrong at;

http://www.webbers.com/meteorites.html

Not offering for sale here, just passing on some pics.

Anyway, I'm happy to be among this illustrious company and look forward to
learning proper, ethical methods for acquiring for my budding collection. 
I have ordered a number of books on the subject and scour the net daily
for more info.  Eventually I will become knowlegable enough to participate
here.  For now I read and learn.

Thanks for all your fantastic info you all post here.  Makes me want to
get a degree in astrophysics and earth sciences just to fill out my
knowledge.  Unfortunately I'm 54 and all of my physics classes were at the
school level many moons ago.

Best,

Gary Foote
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction

2005-12-15 Thread bernd . pauli
Gary kindly wrote:

 I wanted to post, as a new member of this list, a bit of introduction.

Welcome to our List!

I have been an amateur atronomer since I was a child

You will find out that many of us are both amateur astronomers (or have a vivid
interest in everything celestial) and passionate lovers of these messengers from
the sky.

 ...a meteorwrong [vesicular basalt] here in New England.

What a pity it is a meteorwrong. A brief, passing look and one might think it is
a vesicular impact melt rock like Cat Mountain (an L5 impact melt breccia which
has vesicles too!).

Anyway, I'm happy to be among this illustrious company

Your family name should be a good omen, because it is also an illustrious
name meteorite-wise. Here's an example:

ART. XXXIX.-Preliminary Note on the Shower of Meteoric Stones near Holbrook,
Navajo County, Arizona, July 19th, 1912, including a  Reference to the Perseid
Swarm of Meteors visible from July 11th to August 22nd by WARREN M. FOOTE.

Unfortunately I'm 54

No problem at all ... I am almost 61 ;-)

Best wishes
from Germany,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction

2005-12-15 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks for the welcome and the links Dave.  You're right, we've porbably bid 
against each 
other in eBay.  eBay is a mixed blessing in my mind.  :)

I'm not yet a member of the IMCA - but will shortly remedy that.  Thanks for 
the pointer.

I have some books coming from Amazon, but the one you referenced is not on that 
list.  
Another remedy to undertake.

I visited the Berringer site in the late 50s and wish I'd had the foresight to 
bring a 
magnet with me.  Now that it's off bounds I've had to pick up Canyon Diablos 
online. My 
wife and I do plan a trip there this coming summer.  I'm sure much has changed. 
 I know 
it is closed to meteorite hunting, though am not sure how wide an area that ban 
includes.

Living in the mountains of NH is not the best for backyard hunting, so we 
definitely plan 
some future trips to known strewfields.  Right now I'm studying like crazy to 
catch up.  
A fun endeavor.

Thanks for your warm welcome.

Gary 

On 15 Dec 2005 at 15:05, Dave Carothers wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Welcome to the group.  Like you, I'm a new comer to this great hobby of
 collecting meteorites.  Wish I'd gotten into it sooner.  I'm 53 and live in
 Virginia.  Been collecting for five months.  If you haven't seen the book
 Thre Art of Collecting Meteorites, I highly recommend it.  A great source
 for those of us getting our feet wet.  URL is at:
 
 http://www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com/
 
 Now that I think of it, we've probably butted heads on eBay bidding on the
 same items.  My favorite sellers (reliable, knowledgable, trustworthy, etc.)
 are:  The Hupe brothers, Mark Bostick, Mike Farmer, Martin Horejsi, Eric
 Olson, and Mike Cottingham.  Most are members of the IMCA -
 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org/ .  Are you a member?  I just signed up
 about a month ago.  Great organization.
 
 Again, welcome to the group and hopefully we can compare notes, as they say,
 as we get deeper and deeper into this hobby.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dave Carothers
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:09 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Introduction
 
 
  Hello Listers,
 
  I wanted to post, as a new member of this list, a bit of introduction.  I
  have been an amateur atronomer since I was a child and have only recently
  begun collecting meteorites after finding a meteorwrong [vesicular basalt]
  here in New England.  I have purchased a number of meteorites from eBay
  over the last month or so.  I also plan to pick up a metal detector and do
  some hunting on my own, with GPS of course.  Time for some strewfield
  stidies.
 
  I have a question for the list;
 
  Is there an ethical market for meterowrongs?  I've seen a few go on eBay,
  but don't know whether people really lnow what they are buying when they
  bid on these items.  You can view my meteorwrong at;
 
  http://www.webbers.com/meteorites.html
 
  Not offering for sale here, just passing on some pics.
 
  Anyway, I'm happy to be among this illustrious company and look forward to
  learning proper, ethical methods for acquiring for my budding collection.
  I have ordered a number of books on the subject and scour the net daily
  for more info.  Eventually I will become knowlegable enough to participate
  here.  For now I read and learn.
 
  Thanks for all your fantastic info you all post here.  Makes me want to
  get a degree in astrophysics and earth sciences just to fill out my
  knowledge.  Unfortunately I'm 54 and all of my physics classes were at the
  school level many moons ago.
 
  Best,
 
  Gary Foote
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.webbers.com
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Gary,

Welcome to the List and to collecting meteorites. I would say you got into
collecting at the right time. I say this because of the amount of material
that is now available to collectors is immense. Just a few years ago, there
was not much selection as far as rare material goes.  Now, thanks to
Northwest Africa (Sahara Desert) and other hot deserts the selection is
outstanding. The prices are in tune with the amount of supply and are the
best I have seen so your timing seems perfect.  A few years from now I am
sure some collectors will be kicking themselves for not taking advantage of
the present situation.

Instead of a handful of meteorite hunters, there are now thousands if you
count the nomads who have been the most successful at recovering these rare
objects. Then we have a group of hunters here in the United States who have
become increasingly successful at recoveries in the Mojave Desert. Add to
this Steve Arnold's recent, outstanding and record breaking Pallasite find
and you have the makings of some pretty exciting times.  I almost forgot the
Europeans and Russians who have come up with some excellent material as well
and have been at it for a long time.

Dave Carothers pointed out the presence of the International Meteorite
Collectors Association (IMCA). This is a great not-for-profit group of
collectors, dealers and scientists who are here to serve this great
avocation. Their members adhere to the strictest standards and a
well-written Code of Ethics to help insure that collectors will be getting
the real deal.  Meteorite collecting as a hobby is starting to mature and
the IMCA will be there to add much needed professionalism. Sit back and
enjoy the dynamics that are now in play and will be there in the future to
insure continued growth and satisfaction.

Best Wishes and Welcome Aboard,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] Introduction and coments on collecting habits.

2003-10-26 Thread mike miller



Hello everyone I just wanted to introduce my self, 
my name Is Mike Miller. On E-bay I am known as Flattoprocks. I started out by 
getting the idea in my head that I could actually go out in the desert ( I live 
in Arizona) and find a "shooting star". I was able to do that in the Gold Basin 
strewn field and since I have hunted the Holbrook, Glorieta Mountain and also 
found a couple of meteorites on Red Lake. 
That is how my collecting got started, I kept 
( in my opinion) the best pieces I found of a particular meteorite. Now they 
have grown to collecting any outstanding specimen that I might have the chance 
to purchase or trade for.
I also wanted to let everyone know I have for 
sale or trade Glorieta Mountain Pallasite slices in the 60 to 120 gram range. At 
the reasonable price of $25.00 per gram. If you have any questions you can 
contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


 
Mike


[meteorite-list] introduction*

2002-10-09 Thread Luis Villafane



HELLO list my name is luis i am 12 and i love 
astronmy and know alot about it.i love watchin meteor showers and i 
love star gazing. 

thanks luis