Re: [meteorite-list] Irons and fusion crusts

2007-01-16 Thread Rob McCafferty

--- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Phil,
 
 I don't mean to split hairs, but what is the
 difference between a thermal alteration zone 
 and a fusion crust?  Is there a difference? Is not a
 fusion crust a thermal alteration 
 zone?
 
 Gary
 

Oh, no, no, no.

A fusion crust is formed by the melting of the very
outer layer, proper actual melting.
Thermal alteration is caused by the presence of heat
without actually causing melting. The best I can think
of as an example is car brake disks when they get too
hot. When they cool back down they have a blue tint.
This is thermal alteration and exists to some depth in
the disk, not just on the surface. This is important
because it's not actually melted, it's just the heat
has alterd the crystal structure.

RMcC


 

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[meteorite-list] Irons and fusion crusts

2007-01-15 Thread Gary K. Foote
I know this has been a debate that has ebbed and flowed across this list many 
times.  I 
want to point everyone to this fabulous picture of Thunda - a Queensland iron 
that 
clearly shows a crust of differentiated iron surrounding a 'typical' iron core. 
 This, in 
my mind, is a stupendous example of an iron meteorite with a fantastic fusion 
crust.

http://www.rawnet.com.au/~qwalkra1/thunda.htm

My thanks to Bob Walker for bringing this to the public eye.

Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Irons and fusion crusts

2007-01-15 Thread Gary K. Foote
Hi Phil,

I don't mean to split hairs, but what is the difference between a thermal 
alteration zone 
and a fusion crust?  Is there a difference? Is not a fusion crust a thermal 
alteration 
zone?

Gary

On 15 Jan 2007 at 19:07, Phil Morgan wrote:

 I think we're seeing a thermal 
 alteration zone rather than anything that could be called a fusion crust.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Irons and fusion crusts

2007-01-15 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Gary,

Nice discussion!

I think there is a big difference between fusion crust for irons and just
a thermally altered zone.

Fusion requires the crust to have been fused.  At velocities over 3 km/s
the fusing material is the same material that is ablating, and as we know
very little remains stuck in flight.  (However a great amount can flow -
just look at aerodynamically sculpted iron meteorites!)  After slowing or
stopping some of the ablation melt is left and solidifies.  Thermal
alteration has never flowed to these high degrees and that is how I'd split
hairs; some level of structure is maintained at some levels - unlike the
ablativly free flowing fusion crust.

A while back when David Weir and I participated in this conservation, and
David posted a nice cross-section of a typical iron meteorite fusion
crust.  You can search the archives for the link if you don't have it.  It
was maybe two months ago?

Best health,
Doug

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Irons and fusion crusts


 Hi Phil,

 I don't mean to split hairs, but what is the difference between a thermal
alteration zone
 and a fusion crust?  Is there a difference? Is not a fusion crust a
thermal alteration
 zone?

 Gary

 On 15 Jan 2007 at 19:07, Phil Morgan wrote:

  I think we're seeing a thermal
  alteration zone rather than anything that could be called a fusion
crust.



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