[meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie
Hi Tracy, Zélimir and List, Zélimir: I can tell you (qualitatively) that their textures are definitely different. Tracy: Itqiy and Zaklodzie slices, do they actually look similar in section? No, they don't look similar at all! They have totally different grain sizes. Itqiy has a grain size that ranges from 0.5-1.7 mm in my specimen, whereas crystals in my tiny Zaklodzie slice have an average grain size of 0.5 mm. Tracy: Zaklodzie, however,...don't show the texture very well Zaklodzie is very hard to photograph. I've tried but without satisfactory results. I've also put my two smallish slices of Zaklodzie and Itqiy under the microscope and have taken pictures of them both side by side. Moderate result but one can clearly see the difference in texture. While it was quite difficult to take pics of my Zaklodzie slice, it was relatively easy to take pics of my Zaklodzie thin section in XP (cross-polarized) light. Zélimir: Itqiy is very similar to NWA 2656 (btw classified as E-achon in Met. Bull.) Huh?! NWA 2656 is classified as an acapulcoite! My itsy-bitsy 0.29-gram slice of that acapulcoite is even harder to photograph than the Zaklodzie :-( Klaus Keil, Addi Bischoff (2008) NWA 2526: A partial melt residue of enstatite chondrite parentage (MAPS 43-7, 2008, pp. 1233-1240): Well, the meteorite Zélimir is referring to, that's NWA 2526 and in the last two sentences of the abstract you'll find this: These similarities indicate that NWA 2526 and Itqiy may have formed on the same parent body. This body was different from the EH, EL, Shallowater and aubrite parent bodies, and NWA 2526 and Itqiy may represent samples from yet another, fifth enstatite meteorite parent body. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie
Yes Bernd, you are perfectly right. Funny my misspelling the numbers. My fingers run too fast (actually my phone number starts with 2656...pfff!) Thanks for the reference. I just also received the PDF copy from David Weir and read the intro and the conclusions. Very interesting...the Itqiy-Zaklodzie-NWA 2526 continues. BTW, I have a pic of my Zaklodzie slice (14.1 g, 50x45x2 mm). Not the best quality but I'll sent it to you in a separate mail. If you feel it is informative for the list and if you can host it on your site, feel free to send the link. Thanks again for comments. Zelimir A 17:40 13/12/2008 +, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de a écrit : Hi Tracy, Zélimir and List, Zélimir: I can tell you (qualitatively) that their textures are definitely different. Tracy: Itqiy and Zaklodzie slices, do they actually look similar in section? No, they don't look similar at all! They have totally different grain sizes. Itqiy has a grain size that ranges from 0.5-1.7 mm in my specimen, whereas crystals in my tiny Zaklodzie slice have an average grain size of 0.5 mm. Tracy: Zaklodzie, however,...don't show the texture very well Zaklodzie is very hard to photograph. I've tried but without satisfactory results. I've also put my two smallish slices of Zaklodzie and Itqiy under the microscope and have taken pictures of them both side by side. Moderate result but one can clearly see the difference in texture. While it was quite difficult to take pics of my Zaklodzie slice, it was relatively easy to take pics of my Zaklodzie thin section in XP (cross-polarized) light. Zélimir: Itqiy is very similar to NWA 2656 (btw classified as E-achon in Met. Bull.) Huh?! NWA 2656 is classified as an acapulcoite! My itsy-bitsy 0.29-gram slice of that acapulcoite is even harder to photograph than the Zaklodzie :-( Klaus Keil, Addi Bischoff (2008) NWA 2526: A partial melt residue of enstatite chondrite parentage (MAPS 43-7, 2008, pp. 1233-1240): Well, the meteorite Zélimir is referring to, that's NWA 2526 and in the last two sentences of the abstract you'll find this: These similarities indicate that NWA 2526 and Itqiy may have formed on the same parent body. This body was different from the EH, EL, Shallowater and aubrite parent bodies, and NWA 2526 and Itqiy may represent samples from yet another, fifth enstatite meteorite parent body. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie
Tracy, Zelimir, Bernd and all, I put pictures of Itqiy and Zakłodzie slices side by side here: http://johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/Zaklodzie%20Itqiy.ht m Maybe this helps a little. Regards, - John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:29 AM To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie Yes Bernd, you are perfectly right. Funny my misspelling the numbers. My fingers run too fast (actually my phone number starts with 2656...pfff!) Thanks for the reference. I just also received the PDF copy from David Weir and read the intro and the conclusions. Very interesting...the Itqiy-Zaklodzie-NWA 2526 continues. BTW, I have a pic of my Zaklodzie slice (14.1 g, 50x45x2 mm). Not the best quality but I'll sent it to you in a separate mail. If you feel it is informative for the list and if you can host it on your site, feel free to send the link. Thanks again for comments. Zelimir A 17:40 13/12/2008 +, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de a écrit : Hi Tracy, Zélimir and List, Zélimir: I can tell you (qualitatively) that their textures are definitely different. Tracy: Itqiy and Zaklodzie slices, do they actually look similar in section? No, they don't look similar at all! They have totally different grain sizes. Itqiy has a grain size that ranges from 0.5-1.7 mm in my specimen, whereas crystals in my tiny Zaklodzie slice have an average grain size of 0.5 mm. Tracy: Zaklodzie, however,...don't show the texture very well Zaklodzie is very hard to photograph. I've tried but without satisfactory results. I've also put my two smallish slices of Zaklodzie and Itqiy under the microscope and have taken pictures of them both side by side. Moderate result but one can clearly see the difference in texture. While it was quite difficult to take pics of my Zaklodzie slice, it was relatively easy to take pics of my Zaklodzie thin section in XP (cross-polarized) light. Zélimir: Itqiy is very similar to NWA 2656 (btw classified as E-achon in Met. Bull.) Huh?! NWA 2656 is classified as an acapulcoite! My itsy-bitsy 0.29-gram slice of that acapulcoite is even harder to photograph than the Zaklodzie :-( Klaus Keil, Addi Bischoff (2008) NWA 2526: A partial melt residue of enstatite chondrite parentage (MAPS 43-7, 2008, pp. 1233-1240): Well, the meteorite Zélimir is referring to, that's NWA 2526 and in the last two sentences of the abstract you'll find this: These similarities indicate that NWA 2526 and Itqiy may have formed on the same parent body. This body was different from the EH, EL, Shallowater and aubrite parent bodies, and NWA 2526 and Itqiy may represent samples from yet another, fifth enstatite meteorite parent body. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie
John, try to resend that. The link doesn't seem to work - Original Message - From: Kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie Tracy, Zelimir, Bernd and all, I put pictures of Itqiy and Zakłodzie slices side by side here: http://johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/Zaklodzie%20Itqiy.ht m Maybe this helps a little. Regards, - John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:29 AM To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie Yes Bernd, you are perfectly right. Funny my misspelling the numbers. My fingers run too fast (actually my phone number starts with 2656...pfff!) Thanks for the reference. I just also received the PDF copy from David Weir and read the intro and the conclusions. Very interesting...the Itqiy-Zaklodzie-NWA 2526 continues. BTW, I have a pic of my Zaklodzie slice (14.1 g, 50x45x2 mm). Not the best quality but I'll sent it to you in a separate mail. If you feel it is informative for the list and if you can host it on your site, feel free to send the link. Thanks again for comments. Zelimir A 17:40 13/12/2008 +, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de a écrit : Hi Tracy, Zélimir and List, Zélimir: I can tell you (qualitatively) that their textures are definitely different. Tracy: Itqiy and Zaklodzie slices, do they actually look similar in section? No, they don't look similar at all! They have totally different grain sizes. Itqiy has a grain size that ranges from 0.5-1.7 mm in my specimen, whereas crystals in my tiny Zaklodzie slice have an average grain size of 0.5 mm. Tracy: Zaklodzie, however,...don't show the texture very well Zaklodzie is very hard to photograph. I've tried but without satisfactory results. I've also put my two smallish slices of Zaklodzie and Itqiy under the microscope and have taken pictures of them both side by side. Moderate result but one can clearly see the difference in texture. While it was quite difficult to take pics of my Zaklodzie slice, it was relatively easy to take pics of my Zaklodzie thin section in XP (cross-polarized) light. Zélimir: Itqiy is very similar to NWA 2656 (btw classified as E-achon in Met. Bull.) Huh?! NWA 2656 is classified as an acapulcoite! My itsy-bitsy 0.29-gram slice of that acapulcoite is even harder to photograph than the Zaklodzie :-( Klaus Keil, Addi Bischoff (2008) NWA 2526: A partial melt residue of enstatite chondrite parentage (MAPS 43-7, 2008, pp. 1233-1240): Well, the meteorite Zélimir is referring to, that's NWA 2526 and in the last two sentences of the abstract you'll find this: These similarities indicate that NWA 2526 and Itqiy may have formed on the same parent body. This body was different from the EH, EL, Shallowater and aubrite parent bodies, and NWA 2526 and Itqiy may represent samples from yet another, fifth enstatite meteorite parent body. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie
Jerry, I resent it in Rich Text to avoid the broken link but it's not posting. HTML is verboten. So let's try this: http://tinyurl.com/6rkt8l Thanks for the note! - John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Flaherty Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:32 PM To: Kashuba; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie John, try to resend that. The link doesn't seem to work - Original Message - From: Kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie Tracy, Zelimir, Bernd and all, I put pictures of Itqiy and Zakłodzie slices side by side here: http://johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/Zaklodzie%20Itqiy.ht m Maybe this helps a little. Regards, - John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:29 AM To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Itqiy and Zaklodzie Yes Bernd, you are perfectly right. Funny my misspelling the numbers. My fingers run too fast (actually my phone number starts with 2656...pfff!) Thanks for the reference. I just also received the PDF copy from David Weir and read the intro and the conclusions. Very interesting...the Itqiy-Zaklodzie-NWA 2526 continues. BTW, I have a pic of my Zaklodzie slice (14.1 g, 50x45x2 mm). Not the best quality but I'll sent it to you in a separate mail. If you feel it is informative for the list and if you can host it on your site, feel free to send the link. Thanks again for comments. Zelimir A 17:40 13/12/2008 +, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de a écrit : Hi Tracy, Zélimir and List, Zélimir: I can tell you (qualitatively) that their textures are definitely different. Tracy: Itqiy and Zaklodzie slices, do they actually look similar in section? No, they don't look similar at all! They have totally different grain sizes. Itqiy has a grain size that ranges from 0.5-1.7 mm in my specimen, whereas crystals in my tiny Zaklodzie slice have an average grain size of 0.5 mm. Tracy: Zaklodzie, however,...don't show the texture very well Zaklodzie is very hard to photograph. I've tried but without satisfactory results. I've also put my two smallish slices of Zaklodzie and Itqiy under the microscope and have taken pictures of them both side by side. Moderate result but one can clearly see the difference in texture. While it was quite difficult to take pics of my Zaklodzie slice, it was relatively easy to take pics of my Zaklodzie thin section in XP (cross-polarized) light. Zélimir: Itqiy is very similar to NWA 2656 (btw classified as E-achon in Met. Bull.) Huh?! NWA 2656 is classified as an acapulcoite! My itsy-bitsy 0.29-gram slice of that acapulcoite is even harder to photograph than the Zaklodzie :-( Klaus Keil, Addi Bischoff (2008) NWA 2526: A partial melt residue of enstatite chondrite parentage (MAPS 43-7, 2008, pp. 1233-1240): Well, the meteorite Zélimir is referring to, that's NWA 2526 and in the last two sentences of the abstract you'll find this: These similarities indicate that NWA 2526 and Itqiy may have formed on the same parent body. This body was different from the EH, EL, Shallowater and aubrite parent bodies, and NWA 2526 and Itqiy may represent samples from yet another, fifth enstatite meteorite parent body. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
