Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
Eric, EBay has been sued many times. Luckily they keep winning. Even so they have had to make numerous changes. Supposedly the USA sales account for about 46 percent (4 billion dollars) of their total sales so, by limiting some of the off-shore visibility they may be cutting their own throat. On the other hand people who depend on off-shore sales could lose a possible 54 percent of their revenue. Ouch! According to the link below they are actively trying to stop the fraud but, it takes people like us to hit the report button in order to stop the auctions. They told me that three day auctions are very hard to catch in time though. Consequently some stuff does fall through the cracks. For these reasons I think eBay will continue to try and continue as many sales as possible without becoming too much the Man. http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/07/ebay_claims_vic.html Carl eBay seller ; Meteoritemax -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Eric Wichman e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: The writing has been on the wall for a while now. Hopefully I'm wrong... With all the fuss over the years with suspect and obvious fake meteorites on Ebay, misleading and incorrect information and identification of terrestrial stones claimed as meteorites by inexperienced folks trying to make a quick buck on that lava rock they found in their driveway that wasn't there yesterday. Problems of international shipping and the tightening of export laws in other countries which govern, or at least try to govern the exportation of meteorites. Ebay is starting to take measures to prohibit meteorite sales on their international sites, as per a recent post on the Met-List a little while ago. (I'm assuming some dealers used to list items internationally on multiple international Ebay sites like others have, but now Ebay is seemingly prohibiting this practice. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come.) Recent posts about suspect Lunar meteorites, and the numerous other suspect and supposed meteorites that get listed on Ebay, the countless emails from meteorite dealers to Ebay about apparent and obviously fraudulent Ebay auctions featuring fake meteorites doesn't really help. This coupled with the ambiguous and non-standard international export and import laws in other countries regarding meteorites, I think selling meteorites on Ebay might become a thing of the past. There are too many other products with much less hassle and risk for Ebay to allow to be listed, without dealing with the liability of the possibility of suspect and or blatantly fraudulent meteorite auctions which might cause buyers undo loss, or inadvertent proliferation of non-meteoritic material throughout the meteorite community. This causes much confusion on what a meteorite really looks like, and identification of meteorites by psuedo-experts, and backyard meteorite hunters who quickly list their find on Ebay hurts the community, and ultimately the science. Not that Ebay cares about that, but if any of these things increase their risk, and meteorites become too much of a liability, or it costs them too much money to wade through the possible legal and/or business policy disputes that arise from meteorite listings, then they would have no reason to continue to allow meteorites to be listed. Meteorite auction days on Ebay might just be numbered. Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
The writing has been on the wall for a while now. Hopefully I'm wrong... With all the fuss over the years with suspect and obvious fake meteorites on Ebay, misleading and incorrect information and identification of terrestrial stones claimed as meteorites by inexperienced folks trying to make a quick buck on that lava rock they found in their driveway that wasn't there yesterday. Problems of international shipping and the tightening of export laws in other countries which govern, or at least try to govern the exportation of meteorites. Ebay is starting to take measures to prohibit meteorite sales on their international sites, as per a recent post on the Met-List a little while ago. (I'm assuming some dealers used to list items internationally on multiple international Ebay sites like others have, but now Ebay is seemingly prohibiting this practice. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come.) Recent posts about suspect Lunar meteorites, and the numerous other suspect and supposed meteorites that get listed on Ebay, the countless emails from meteorite dealers to Ebay about apparent and obviously fraudulent Ebay auctions featuring fake meteorites doesn't really help. This coupled with the ambiguous and non-standard international export and import laws in other countries regarding meteorites, I think selling meteorites on Ebay might become a thing of the past. There are too many other products with much less hassle and risk for Ebay to allow to be listed, without dealing with the liability of the possibility of suspect and or blatantly fraudulent meteorite auctions which might cause buyers undo loss, or inadvertent proliferation of non-meteoritic material throughout the meteorite community. This causes much confusion on what a meteorite really looks like, and identification of meteorites by psuedo-experts, and backyard meteorite hunters who quickly list their find on Ebay hurts the community, and ultimately the science. Not that Ebay cares about that, but if any of these things increase their risk, and meteorites become too much of a liability, or it costs them too much money to wade through the possible legal and/or business policy disputes that arise from meteorite listings, then they would have no reason to continue to allow meteorites to be listed. Meteorite auction days on Ebay might just be numbered. Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
You are not kidding. EBay turned off the international site visibility option on most of my auctions. I am going to have to go to fixed pricing, buy-it-now, store type sales soon or suspend eBay sales altogether. International bidders can still find these auctions by going to ebay.com instead of ebay.uk if this helps. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ebay turned off international site visibility on most of my auctions too as I posted a few days ago. Nothing changed in my listings or in my descriptions other than weights and prices, but ebay chose to change some kind of policy without warning, which thereby resulted in the action they took. I spent several hours trying to deduce what was going on, and received suggestions from several list members, to whom I am thankful. By trial and error, I removed lines of text from my descriptions until I no longer got ebay's message, which I have copied below. Apparently they don't like Big Kahuna Meteorites, scale cubes, my shipping information or country names in my text descriptions, and when they found them would send me this message and turn off international site visibility. With the text deletions, I now retain international site visibility, but have had to cull most of my text descriptions, in some instances down to a single sentence! I apologize to any of my friends who visit my auctions, for the sparse descriptions you now see, but at least now you know the reason behind the change. gary You recently created or revised this eBay listing that included the International Site Visibility feature: 330619432797 NEW! NWA 6927 Diogenite 2.76g Fresh Crusted Full Slice, However, we had to remove International Site Visibility from your listing. Of course, we won't be charging you the fee for it. Because the laws and eBay policies vary by country, sometimes items that can be listed in your country can't be listed internationally. It's also possible that the listing itself violated an eBay policy in another country. In situations like this, we automatically remove the International Site Visibility feature from the listing. We're sorry for the inconvenience this causes. To find out about our global selling requirements, visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell_international_requirements.html For more information, contact customer support by clicking the Help link at the top of any eBay page and then clicking the Contact Us button. On Sep 30, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: You are not kidding. EBay turned off the international site visibility option on most of my auctions. I am going to have to go to fixed pricing, buy-it-now, store type sales soon or suspend eBay sales altogether. International bidders can still find these auctions by going to ebay.com instead of ebay.uk if this helps. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
Hi Gary, eBay doesn't like the text, scale cubes, in descriptions? How can these two simple words create such problems for the eBay dictatorship? I guess we will all have to replace those two words with, ... 'square measuring device' for size comparison only... Hope you find the solutions! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:14 AM To: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay turned off international site visibility on most of my auctions too as I posted a few days ago. Nothing changed in my listings or in my descriptions other than weights and prices, but ebay chose to change some kind of policy without warning, which thereby resulted in the action they took. I spent several hours trying to deduce what was going on, and received suggestions from several list members, to whom I am thankful. By trial and error, I removed lines of text from my descriptions until I no longer got ebay's message, which I have copied below. Apparently they don't like Big Kahuna Meteorites, scale cubes, my shipping information or country names in my text descriptions, and when they found them would send me this message and turn off international site visibility. With the text deletions, I now retain international site visibility, but have had to cull most of my text descriptions, in some instances down to a single sentence! I apologize to any of my friends who visit my auctions, for the sparse descriptions you now see, but at least now you know the reason behind the change. gary You recently created or revised this eBay listing that included the International Site Visibility feature: 330619432797 NEW! NWA 6927 Diogenite 2.76g Fresh Crusted Full Slice, However, we had to remove International Site Visibility from your listing. Of course, we won't be charging you the fee for it. Because the laws and eBay policies vary by country, sometimes items that can be listed in your country can't be listed internationally. It's also possible that the listing itself violated an eBay policy in another country. In situations like this, we automatically remove the International Site Visibility feature from the listing. We're sorry for the inconvenience this causes. To find out about our global selling requirements, visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell_international_requirements.html For more information, contact customer support by clicking the Help link at the top of any eBay page and then clicking the Contact Us button. On Sep 30, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: You are not kidding. EBay turned off the international site visibility option on most of my auctions. I am going to have to go to fixed pricing, buy-it-now, store type sales soon or suspend eBay sales altogether. International bidders can still find these auctions by going to ebay.com instead of ebay.uk if this helps. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Gang, I know I sound like a broken record with this, but if ANY of you want to free yourselves of eBay restrictions and fees, contact me off-list. I will gladly point you to an eCommerce hosting solution that is turn key - just put your inventory in, tweak the look, and away you go. The fees are a small fraction of eBay and there are no restrictions. There is a myth about eBay's traffic or reach, but it is a myth. The majority of eBay's millions of members could care less about meteorites, so why take them into account when deciding which venue to offer your wares? My sales actually increased when I stopped selling on eBay. There are more than enough buyers to go around for all of us and I don't mind helping a fellow dealer improve their bottom line. It's time to stop looking at each other as competition and start cooperating with each other to everyone's benefit. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 9/30/11, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi Gary, eBay doesn't like the text, scale cubes, in descriptions? How can these two simple words create such problems for the eBay dictatorship? I guess we will all have to replace those two words with, ... 'square measuring device' for size comparison only... Hope you find the solutions! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:14 AM To: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay turned off international site visibility on most of my auctions too as I posted a few days ago. Nothing changed in my listings or in my descriptions other than weights and prices, but ebay chose to change some kind of policy without warning, which thereby resulted in the action they took. I spent several hours trying to deduce what was going on, and received suggestions from several list members, to whom I am thankful. By trial and error, I removed lines of text from my descriptions until I no longer got ebay's message, which I have copied below. Apparently they don't like Big Kahuna Meteorites, scale cubes, my shipping information or country names in my text descriptions, and when they found them would send me this message and turn off international site visibility. With the text deletions, I now retain international site visibility, but have had to cull most of my text descriptions, in some instances down to a single sentence! I apologize to any of my friends who visit my auctions, for the sparse descriptions you now see, but at least now you know the reason behind the change. gary You recently created or revised this eBay listing that included the International Site Visibility feature: 330619432797 NEW! NWA 6927 Diogenite 2.76g Fresh Crusted Full Slice, However, we had to remove International Site Visibility from your listing. Of course, we won't be charging you the fee for it. Because the laws and eBay policies vary by country, sometimes items that can be listed in your country can't be listed internationally. It's also possible that the listing itself violated an eBay policy in another country. In situations like this, we automatically remove the International Site Visibility feature from the listing. We're sorry for the inconvenience this causes. To find out about our global selling requirements, visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell_international_requirements.html For more information, contact customer support by clicking the Help link at the top of any eBay page and then clicking the Contact Us button. On Sep 30, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: You are not kidding. EBay turned off the international site visibility option on most of my auctions. I am going to have to go to fixed pricing, buy-it-now, store type sales soon or suspend eBay sales altogether. International bidders can still find these auctions by going to ebay.com instead of ebay.uk if this helps. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
I haven't noticed any changes in eBay policy toward international meteorite sales. The people that are being hasseled were probably reported by someone. It only takes one snitch telling on you for whatever reason to get an auction shut down. I had a stalagmite auction closed recently because of a person morally opposed to the selling of speleothems. They lied and said I stole the formations from US gov't land, when I clearly stated they were from a Chinese dealer at the Tucson Show. After I explained the situation to eBay, they let me relist the item, but there was no refund for fees. The tattle-tale was nutty, emailing me to say I was stealing and selling national treasures. I sort of provoked him by saying since he was such a moralist, he must have returned his stolen property to the nearest Native American tribe. Again, I have not seen any changes at all in eBay policy, except for the email address prohibition. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well: at risk for looking for a conspiracy where it doesn't exist, this phrase eBay told you caught my attention: However, we had to remove International Site Visibility from your listing. Of course, we won't be charging you the fee for it. Specifically the fee comment, as if a fee had any logical place whatsover in that comment! Considering that eBay policy of charging for extra pictures, second line titles and whatever else, it's a small wonder they haven't charged for additional country visibility. That small wonder may be due to fear eBay will lose its established unmatchable wide visibility worldwide network which is the de facto monopoly it has if it touches who can and can't see your sales page. But, it isn't too different in concept from the additional cost for listing in more categories, so I am suspicious. Suspicious that ... all these rules that eBay has never been concerned about before and with such difficulty when you need them, are just a huge smokescreen to somehow introduce the idea of paying for additional country visibility. They probably got the idea from exorbitant international excess baggage each time they go from SFO to their European branches. It wouldn't be without justification, though to charge for additional countries since eBay has additional overhead costs for each of those sites that are now in question for listings. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 11:30 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay turned off international site visibility on most of my auctions too as I posted a few days ago. Nothing changed in my listings or in my descriptions other than weights and prices, but ebay chose to change some kind of policy without warning, which thereby resulted in the action they took. I spent several hours trying to deduce what was going on, and received suggestions from several list members, to whom I am thankful. By trial and error, I removed lines of text from my descriptions until I no longer got ebay's message, which I have copied below. Apparently they don't like Big Kahuna Meteorites, scale cubes, my shipping information or country names in my text descriptions, and when they found them would send me this message and turn off international site visibility. With the text deletions, I now retain international site visibility, but have had to cull most of my text descriptions, in some instances down to a single sentence! I apologize to any of my friends who visit my auctions, for the sparse descriptions you now see, but at least now you know the reason behind the change. gary You recently created or revised this eBay listing that included the International Site Visibility feature: 330619432797 NEW! NWA 6927 Diogenite 2.76g Fresh Crusted Full Slice, However, we had to remove International Site Visibility from your listing. Of course, we won't be charging you the fee for it. Because the laws and eBay policies vary by country, sometimes items that can be listed in your country can't be listed internationally. It's also possible that the listing itself violated an eBay policy in another country. In situations like this, we automatically remove the International Site Visibility feature from the listing. We're sorry for the inconvenience this causes. To find out about our global selling requirements, visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell_international_requirements.html For more information, contact customer support by clicking the Help link at the top of any eBay page and then clicking the Contact Us button. On Sep 30, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: You are not kidding. EBay turned off the international site visibility option on most of my auctions. I am going to have to go to fixed pricing, buy-it-now, store type sales soon or suspend eBay sales altogether. International bidders can still find these auctions by going to ebay.com instead of ebay.uk if this helps. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
I don't think it's a secret that eBay is going to start charging extra for international auctions. I seem to recall getting an email from them a month or so ago saying that they were going to do this. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ebay has been charging additional fees for international site visibility for over a year now, but have been getting very picky about what one states in an item description - this started happening less than two weeks ago. gary On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:20 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: I don't think it's a secret that eBay is going to start charging extra for international auctions. I seem to recall getting an email from them a month or so ago saying that they were going to do this. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I still don't understand their objection to scale cube... Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:24 PM To: JoshuaTreeMuseum Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay has been charging additional fees for international site visibility for over a year now, but have been getting very picky about what one states in an item description - this started happening less than two weeks ago. gary On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:20 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: I don't think it's a secret that eBay is going to start charging extra for international auctions. I seem to recall getting an email from them a month or so ago saying that they were going to do this. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Greg, Ebay is protecting itself. Scale Cube is considered an ethnic slur in the nation of Cubonia! (It borders to the left of Elbonia.) :-) Ed - Original Message - From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net To: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? I still don't understand their objection to scale cube... Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:24 PM To: JoshuaTreeMuseum Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay has been charging additional fees for international site visibility for over a year now, but have been getting very picky about what one states in an item description - this started happening less than two weeks ago. gary On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:20 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: I don't think it's a secret that eBay is going to start charging extra for international auctions. I seem to recall getting an email from them a month or so ago saying that they were going to do this. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered?
Any corrections?: Clearly a lot more going on in eBay with the international viewing of auction than many of us were aware. I searched a bit and information is all cock-eyed, but this seems to be the gist of it: * If you list on eBay.com, you have no problem and anyone browsing eBay.com can find your stuff as always, internationally, there are no fees. Ebay has not charged any international visibility fees for this - before or now. * Some countries have their own sites, a more tailored interface for citizens. Some listings mysteriously from the ebay.com site appear there at no fee, usually when the endemic offering is small, while others don't. So if you want to appear in the ebay.de or the ebay.it, ebay.ct, the ebay.pt site, etc., you have the option in the .com site of paying a fee per additional market to guarantee you will appear - if you really think it is worth it to appear there in the first place, remembering people searching ebay.com will see you and you are just trying to go the extra painful mile (km?) to put you name to some country. * Each of those national market sites has a database of blacklisted words designed to protect the site; however, a lot gets lost in machine auditing and listings are getting the international visibility boot, which no human can understand and address by trial and error. So what is happening lately defies explanation and has been called a bug by some as eBay tries to rework the problems in its new can of stinking sardines it opened and remerge things to some hybrid of what they were and the present situation. It seems to be a hot potato at the moment that will improve by necessity. * Some countries, especially in the UK which has a dual European/American commercial base, have been paying an additional fee to be visible in other countries, for longer than others depending where eBay stuck its fingers first. * eBay seems to haveopened a stinking can of sardines with international visibility and is trying to migrate back to a more universal platform, free, especially with the US, Canada and Australia in one block, possibly also the UK included. The way they are controlling what appears where is by making sure you have indicated automatically the shipping cost to whereverland. * People contacting eBay customer service have been very frustrated and not gotten many concrete reasons, more often than not misleading advice is received. * The alternative on eBay is just to use the ebay.com site and hope your customers worldwide do to. This is a prettydecent for in meteorites. If not, you can create a second seller ID on your favorite international site and isolate your international feedback, which can be a good idea considering the issues that crop up with customs and shipping that are beyond your control which can cause buyers' frustration. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net To: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? I still don't understand their objection to scale cube... Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:24 PM To: JoshuaTreeMuseum Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Auction Days Numbered? Ebay has been charging additional fees for international site visibility for over a year now, but have been getting very picky about what one states in an item description - this started happening less than two weeks ago. gary On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:20 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: I don't think it's a secret that eBay is going to start charging extra for international auctions. I seem to recall getting an email from them a month or so ago saying that they were going to do this. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list
