Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Hi Anne and all, In the 23 plus years I have been dealing, I have business cards and contact information to over 500 suppliers. Some are not in the business any longer but have been replaced by many other new dealers. Figure in all the new dealers both full time and part time, dealer collectors, collectors who sale items after they upgrade, and older collections who are selling off specimens, and all the new desert dealers from the Africa and Asia areas and there are well over 1000 sources of specimens. Just want people to know there ARE other choices when it comes to buying specimens. Certainly IMCA has a lot to offer but there is a lot more out there also. If you are only buying IMCA then you might not be buying the best specimen out there at the best price as IMCA dealers aren't holding all the great specimens for sale. Even with the IMCA membership there have been problems recently. Some excellent dealers have elected to quit the IMCA because of these problems. To my knowledge anyone who has had a problem has had that problem resolved.Common sense and asking questions before you jump in would solve 90% of the problems both in and out of the IMCA. Best!! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting impact...@aol.com: Thank you Darryl. About some 350 members is not a small part of the spectrum. I would also disagree with Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. I do believe you can find impressive Collection pieces with labels from TCU and ASU, among others, on my website and on Mike Bandli's site. And those are just the first 2 examples that came to mind. And no need for escrow service with IMCA members. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/13/2011 6:13:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, dar...@dof3.com writes: I don't know about merely occupying a small part of the spectrum;-) On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:38 PM, al mitt wrote: Greetings, While buying from IMCA members is a safe way to go, some of the largest and best known dealers are not members of the IMCA. Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. Best bet is to ask around about dealers you might be wanting to buy from. Stay away from dealers that are just getting into dealing as there is more risk with those dealers. Buy from well established dealers that have been in the business for years. Nothing against IMCA or their dealers but that is only a small part of the spectrum. Best! --AL Mitterling __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts or otherwise, I could direct them to an escrow. An escrow service would help unknown sellers get their meteorites into the hands of collectors without having to build a name for themselves first or have to go to a meteorite convention to sell them. There are many knowledgeable meteorite hunters and collectors in the forum who could quite easily operate an escrow service that people like me would trust. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Hi Abe, The List is open to dealers, collectors, hunters, institutions, academics and anyone else with an interest in things meteoritical. It allows advertising and indeed...the announcement of a sale by any of those accessing the List is not an unusual daily occurance and is generally welcomed by all. I wouldn't be too upset with having a seller be smart enough to see your name and make an unsolicited offer. You can always tell that person to stop if they become an annoyance. There is a restriction as to the frequency of a seller's ad being posted. Once a week. Even if a reader isn't interested in buying, the posting of a sale provides valuable information about the availability and value of meteorites and related items. I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. Trying to establish some form of escrow service is not plausible due to the lack of individuals with the experience and motivation necessary and the cost not only in money, but time. The escrow holder would have to be bonded and compensated. It wouldn't pencil out if your dealing with specimens under a $1,000.00. If one were considering a large expenditure with an unknown seller, I would pay the few hundred bucks to fly to where the goods were and see for myself, or buy following these remedies for avoiding being screwed. Have the specimen shipped to you on approval... let the seller risks his inventory. Pay by credit card so a dispute would be settled for zip by the credit card company investigators. Finally, let me say that I have bought hundreds of meteorites on just the past few years building my cabinet, some valued well up to nearly five figures, and I have nothing but good things to say about all the sellers and traders I have dealt with. Almost all were introduced to me through the List. Welcome to the ranks, my friend. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts or otherwise, I could direct them to an escrow. An escrow service would help unknown sellers get their meteorites into the hands of collectors without having to build a name for themselves first or have to go to a meteorite convention to sell them. There are many knowledgeable meteorite hunters and collectors in the forum who could quite easily operate an escrow service that people like me would trust. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Hi Abe, Let me complement Count Guido's post with this: If your purchase is under $1000, and the option exists to pay with your credit card (if you have one) or paypal (find a way to get a paypal account if you don't have one), do that. It replaces the need for an escrow service or membership in any organization, since you can always get your money back in case of scam and paying for registered mail is cheaper than paying an escrow fee. But, from the sound of your message you are perhaps being contacted by persons around the world who have limited english skills. If that is the case you are going from what som e people refer to as the retail side of this to the wholesale side. You will get a better price if you know what you are doing that way, but you need to learn more about meteorites first to be a judge. Because the extra money you pay to some reasonable dealers honestly, more than covers the risk for you at this point. I am not saying to ignore these guys as an interesting piece of material m,ay show up and once you have enough experience buying little specimens off eBay and dealers of good repute you m,ay be in a position to get some of the cream. But with meteorites, that cream is a very hard fight and if you are a casual collector there are better ways to make some money unless you get that curious obsession that afflict many of us, for which there is no earthly pill to cure. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, Nov 13, 2011 1:06 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts or otherwise, I could direct them to an escrow. An escrow service would help unknown sellers get their meteorites into the hands of collectors without having to build a name for themselves first or have to go to a meteorite convention to sell them. There are many knowledgeable meteorite hunters and collectors in the forum who could quite easily operate an escrow service that people like me would trust. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Greetings, While buying from IMCA members is a safe way to go, some of the largest and best known dealers are not members of the IMCA. Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. Best bet is to ask around about dealers you might be wanting to buy from. Stay away from dealers that are just getting into dealing as there is more risk with those dealers. Buy from well established dealers that have been in the business for years. Nothing against IMCA or their dealers but that is only a small part of the spectrum. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites NON-IMCA Dealer - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service Hi Abe, I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
I don't know about merely occupying a small part of the spectrum;-) On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:38 PM, al mitt wrote: Greetings, While buying from IMCA members is a safe way to go, some of the largest and best known dealers are not members of the IMCA. Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. Best bet is to ask around about dealers you might be wanting to buy from. Stay away from dealers that are just getting into dealing as there is more risk with those dealers. Buy from well established dealers that have been in the business for years. Nothing against IMCA or their dealers but that is only a small part of the spectrum. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites NON-IMCA Dealer - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service Hi Abe, I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Thank you Darryl. About some 350 members is not a small part of the spectrum. I would also disagree with Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. I do believe you can find impressive Collection pieces with labels from TCU and ASU, among others, on my website and on Mike Bandli's site. And those are just the first 2 examples that came to mind. And no need for escrow service with IMCA members. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/13/2011 6:13:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, dar...@dof3.com writes: I don't know about merely occupying a small part of the spectrum;-) On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:38 PM, al mitt wrote: Greetings, While buying from IMCA members is a safe way to go, some of the largest and best known dealers are not members of the IMCA. Your limiting access to impressive collection pieces if you only buy from IMCA dealers. Best bet is to ask around about dealers you might be wanting to buy from. Stay away from dealers that are just getting into dealing as there is more risk with those dealers. Buy from well established dealers that have been in the business for years. Nothing against IMCA or their dealers but that is only a small part of the spectrum. Best! --AL Mitterling __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
I appreciate the invaluable advice as always. It makes total sense now why an escrow service may not work in this business: The extra shipping cost and the compensation that the escrow service would need to charge may add up to the extra cost that would make a good deal not such a good deal after all. The best would be that you could just trust people to ship after they are paid but that isn't always going to be the case when buying from an unknown seller. In the most recent solicitations it was from 2 separate individuals wanting to sell me NWA meteorites. They went by the names Abdelfattah Gharrad from Morocco and Abdellah Afiniss. Maybe they contact people who seem to either be new to the business but it would be nice to know if I am the only one that was contacted. I like to think that their offer is honest but I have never contacted anyone back. I think that it's just too risky unless as you say it's for a low enough price that is worth risking. Thanks, Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:16 PM To: Guenther; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service Hi Abe, The List is open to dealers, collectors, hunters, institutions, academics and anyone else with an interest in things meteoritical. It allows advertising and indeed...the announcement of a sale by any of those accessing the List is not an unusual daily occurance and is generally welcomed by all. I wouldn't be too upset with having a seller be smart enough to see your name and make an unsolicited offer. You can always tell that person to stop if they become an annoyance. There is a restriction as to the frequency of a seller's ad being posted. Once a week. Even if a reader isn't interested in buying, the posting of a sale provides valuable information about the availability and value of meteorites and related items. I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. Trying to establish some form of escrow service is not plausible due to the lack of individuals with the experience and motivation necessary and the cost not only in money, but time. The escrow holder would have to be bonded and compensated. It wouldn't pencil out if your dealing with specimens under a $1,000.00. If one were considering a large expenditure with an unknown seller, I would pay the few hundred bucks to fly to where the goods were and see for myself, or buy following these remedies for avoiding being screwed. Have the specimen shipped to you on approval... let the seller risks his inventory. Pay by credit card so a dispute would be settled for zip by the credit card company investigators. Finally, let me say that I have bought hundreds of meteorites on just the past few years building my cabinet, some valued well up to nearly five figures, and I have nothing but good things to say about all the sellers and traders I have dealt with. Almost all were introduced to me through the List. Welcome to the ranks, my friend. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts or otherwise, I could direct them to an escrow. An escrow service would help unknown sellers get their meteorites into the hands of collectors without having to build a name for themselves first or have to go to a meteorite convention to sell them. There are many knowledgeable meteorite hunters and collectors in the forum who could quite easily operate an escrow service that people like me would trust. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
that it's just too risky unless as you say it's for a low enough price that is worth risking. Thanks, Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:16 PM To: Guenther; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service Hi Abe, The List is open to dealers, collectors, hunters, institutions, academics and anyone else with an interest in things meteoritical. It allows advertising and indeed...the announcement of a sale by any of those accessing the List is not an unusual daily occurance and is generally welcomed by all. I wouldn't be too upset with having a seller be smart enough to see your name and make an unsolicited offer. You can always tell that person to stop if they become an annoyance. There is a restriction as to the frequency of a seller's ad being posted. Once a week. Even if a reader isn't interested in buying, the posting of a sale provides valuable information about the availability and value of meteorites and related items. I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. Trying to establish some form of escrow service is not plausible due to the lack of individuals with the experience and motivation necessary and the cost not only in money, but time. The escrow holder would have to be bonded and compensated. It wouldn't pencil out if your dealing with specimens under a $1,000.00. If one were considering a large expenditure with an unknown seller, I would pay the few hundred bucks to fly to where the goods were and see for myself, or buy following these remedies for avoiding being screwed. Have the specimen shipped to you on approval... let the seller risks his inventory. Pay by credit card so a dispute would be settled for zip by the credit card company investigators. Finally, let me say that I have bought hundreds of meteorites on just the past few years building my cabinet, some valued well up to nearly five figures, and I have nothing but good things to say about all the sellers and traders I have dealt with. Almost all were introduced to me through the List. Welcome to the ranks, my friend. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts or otherwise, I could direct them to an escrow. An escrow service would help unknown sellers get their meteorites into the hands of collectors without having to build a name for themselves first or have to go to a meteorite convention to sell them. There are many knowledgeable meteorite hunters and collectors in the forum who could quite easily operate an escrow service that people like me would trust. Thanks, Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service
Hi Günther, I've dealt only once with Abdelfattah Gharrad and I found him to be a reliable and trustworthy seller, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy from him again. I still owe him $20, but he never complained and I will take care of that when I place my next order. Werner Schroer Australia -Original Message- From: Guenther Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:40 PM To: 'Count Deiro' ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I appreciate the invaluable advice as always. It makes total sense now why an escrow service may not work in this business: The extra shipping cost and the compensation that the escrow service would need to charge may add up to the extra cost that would make a good deal not such a good deal after all. The best would be that you could just trust people to ship after they are paid but that isn't always going to be the case when buying from an unknown seller. In the most recent solicitations it was from 2 separate individuals wanting to sell me NWA meteorites. They went by the names Abdelfattah Gharrad from Morocco and Abdellah Afiniss. Maybe they contact people who seem to either be new to the business but it would be nice to know if I am the only one that was contacted. I like to think that their offer is honest but I have never contacted anyone back. I think that it's just too risky unless as you say it's for a low enough price that is worth risking. Thanks, Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:16 PM To: Guenther; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service Hi Abe, The List is open to dealers, collectors, hunters, institutions, academics and anyone else with an interest in things meteoritical. It allows advertising and indeed...the announcement of a sale by any of those accessing the List is not an unusual daily occurance and is generally welcomed by all. I wouldn't be too upset with having a seller be smart enough to see your name and make an unsolicited offer. You can always tell that person to stop if they become an annoyance. There is a restriction as to the frequency of a seller's ad being posted. Once a week. Even if a reader isn't interested in buying, the posting of a sale provides valuable information about the availability and value of meteorites and related items. I think it appropriate for me to reccommend that you consider purchasing from sellers that are current Members of IMCA, as it is a rare bird indeed that would cheat you whilst belonging to this group. These IMCA Members have a Code of Ethics that they subscribe to follow that deals exactly with your fears. Trying to establish some form of escrow service is not plausible due to the lack of individuals with the experience and motivation necessary and the cost not only in money, but time. The escrow holder would have to be bonded and compensated. It wouldn't pencil out if your dealing with specimens under a $1,000.00. If one were considering a large expenditure with an unknown seller, I would pay the few hundred bucks to fly to where the goods were and see for myself, or buy following these remedies for avoiding being screwed. Have the specimen shipped to you on approval... let the seller risks his inventory. Pay by credit card so a dispute would be settled for zip by the credit card company investigators. Finally, let me say that I have bought hundreds of meteorites on just the past few years building my cabinet, some valued well up to nearly five figures, and I have nothing but good things to say about all the sellers and traders I have dealt with. Almost all were introduced to me through the List. Welcome to the ranks, my friend. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Escrow Service I don't post a lot but as soon as I do, I get solicitations from people trying to sell me meteorites. So I am assuming it's because of loiterers in the forum. From the names I can tell that they are not from the list. I can only assume that they are either normal people who have a meteorite they would like to sell for some quick cash or it's a scam. If it was the former rather than the latter I would imagine that there could be some pretty good deals out there but I would never want to risk it. If someone actually had a meteorite to sell but had no eBay rating, I understand their motivation to loiter in a forum even though I don't like it. I am sure that there are many honest people who have meteorites they would like to sell but the risk is too high to get scammed. Is there a trustworthy escrow service in the industry? If someone genuinely had a nice stone to sell, whether they contacted me through my forum posts