[meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia

2008-12-13 Thread Michael Gilmer
Some more meteorite-geography trivia :

1) Jamaica has one known meteorite, Lucky Hill, an iron IIIAB. What are the 
chances of a meteorite landing on a relatively-small island in the middle of a 
sea? This meteorite could have easily ended up on the bottom of the Caribbean, 
but instead it gets to spend it's days in a tropical beach paradise. (I hope 
it's stored with some dessicant!)

2) Iran has only 2 known meteorites - both of them witnessed falls! Naragh is 
an H6 hammer stone that penetrated the roof of a school on August 18, 1974. No 
casualties were reported. The other fall is Veramin, a mesosiderite, which fell 
around April 18, 1880. Veramin has been kept in Tehran's Golestan Palace since 
then.

3) Ireland has 6 recorded meteorites - all of them witnessed falls. (The 
Tanzanians have competition!) All of Ireland's meteorites have been OC's and 
one remains unclassified - Pettiswood.

4) Not to be left out, Northern Ireland (statisically seperatre from Ireland 
proper) has 2 known meteorites, both OC witnessed falls.

5) The United States has over 1519 approved meteorites!

This US tally includes :

2 acapulcoites
5 aubrites
22 carbonaceous chondrites
2 diogenites
4 EL chondrites
11 eucrites
more OC's than you can shake a magnetic cane at
4 howardites
a boatload of irons
2 Martian meteorites (LA001/002  Lafayette)
8 mesosiderites
18 pallasites
1 rumuruti chondrite
2 ureilites
2 winonaites 

:)

.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
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Re: [meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia

2008-12-13 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, List,

Michael wrote:
 What are the chances of a meteorite landing on
 a relatively-small island in the middle of a sea?

Well, the answer is that the chances of a meteorite landing
anywhere are exactly the same as of it landing anywhere else.
The landing of a meteorite is as purely random an event as
any natural event can be. There is no causal connection
between the path of the meteoroid and the geography of
the Earth or indeed, anything about the Earth except that
it got in the way of the meteoroid.

If you were standing idly about in your front yard and a
meteorite whizzed down and landed in front of your feet,
you would jump and scream, OMG! What are the odds
of that?! But the odds of that meteorite landing on the
square meter you were standing on is unaffected by the fact
that you were standing there. Likewise, any square meter
you stand on, anywhere, is as likely to have a meteorite
land on it as any other, whether that square meter of Earth
is land or sea, for example. (Since nearly 70% of the Earth
is water, 70% of all meteorites land there.)

So, when you go out into your front yard tonight to wait for
that meteorite to land at your feet, you can stand anywhere
in the yard you want to! (Or sit in a yard chair, if you want;
that doesn't affect the odds either.) Don't laugh! The meteorite
that lands -- Plop! -- at someone's feet in the front yard has
actually happened, and in relatively recent times. Check out
the NOBLESVILLE (Indiana) fall.


Sterling K. Webb

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia


Some more meteorite-geography trivia :

1) Jamaica has one known meteorite, Lucky Hill, an iron IIIAB. What are the 
chances of a meteorite landing on a relatively-small island in the middle of 
a sea? This meteorite could have easily ended up on the bottom of the 
Caribbean, but instead it gets to spend it's days in a tropical beach 
paradise. (I hope it's stored with some dessicant!)

2) Iran has only 2 known meteorites - both of them witnessed falls! Naragh 
is an H6 hammer stone that penetrated the roof of a school on August 18, 
1974. No casualties were reported. The other fall is Veramin, a 
mesosiderite, which fell around April 18, 1880. Veramin has been kept in 
Tehran's Golestan Palace since then.

3) Ireland has 6 recorded meteorites - all of them witnessed falls. (The 
Tanzanians have competition!) All of Ireland's meteorites have been OC's and 
one remains unclassified - Pettiswood.

4) Not to be left out, Northern Ireland (statisically seperatre from Ireland 
proper) has 2 known meteorites, both OC witnessed falls.

5) The United States has over 1519 approved meteorites!

This US tally includes :

2 acapulcoites
5 aubrites
22 carbonaceous chondrites
2 diogenites
4 EL chondrites
11 eucrites
more OC's than you can shake a magnetic cane at
4 howardites
a boatload of irons
2 Martian meteorites (LA001/002  Lafayette)
8 mesosiderites
18 pallasites
1 rumuruti chondrite
2 ureilites
2 winonaites

:)

.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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Re: [meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia

2008-12-13 Thread Zelimir Gabelica

I fully agree.

Now a pure statistic evaluation tells you that if you are waiting in your 
front yard having a surface of 1 squere km, for a meteorite of 1 kg to 
fall, you'll have to wait (on the average) for...10 million years! (if my 
memory is right, I hesitate between 10 and 100 milloin but the message is 
the same).


A funny related joke we use to tell our visitors in Ensisheim show:
If you are affraid a meteorite would fell on you, just don't worry! A 
bolid of about 125 kg fell right here 516 years ago, so you are 
statistically speaking, totally safe!


I know Sterling will contradict me and I will agree!
A typical counter-example is the Weathersfield meteorite that fell in CT on 
almost the same place in 1971 and in 1982.

Both were L6!...

Keep smiling,

Zelimir



A 12:11 13/12/2008 -0600, Sterling K. Webb a écrit :

Hi, List,

Michael wrote:
 What are the chances of a meteorite landing on
 a relatively-small island in the middle of a sea?

Well, the answer is that the chances of a meteorite landing
anywhere are exactly the same as of it landing anywhere else.
The landing of a meteorite is as purely random an event as
any natural event can be. There is no causal connection
between the path of the meteoroid and the geography of
the Earth or indeed, anything about the Earth except that
it got in the way of the meteoroid.

If you were standing idly about in your front yard and a
meteorite whizzed down and landed in front of your feet,
you would jump and scream, OMG! What are the odds
of that?! But the odds of that meteorite landing on the
square meter you were standing on is unaffected by the fact
that you were standing there. Likewise, any square meter
you stand on, anywhere, is as likely to have a meteorite
land on it as any other, whether that square meter of Earth
is land or sea, for example. (Since nearly 70% of the Earth
is water, 70% of all meteorites land there.)

So, when you go out into your front yard tonight to wait for
that meteorite to land at your feet, you can stand anywhere
in the yard you want to! (Or sit in a yard chair, if you want;
that doesn't affect the odds either.) Don't laugh! The meteorite
that lands -- Plop! -- at someone's feet in the front yard has
actually happened, and in relatively recent times. Check out
the NOBLESVILLE (Indiana) fall.


Sterling K. Webb

- Original Message -
From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia


Some more meteorite-geography trivia :

1) Jamaica has one known meteorite, Lucky Hill, an iron IIIAB. What are the
chances of a meteorite landing on a relatively-small island in the middle of
a sea? This meteorite could have easily ended up on the bottom of the
Caribbean, but instead it gets to spend it's days in a tropical beach
paradise. (I hope it's stored with some dessicant!)

2) Iran has only 2 known meteorites - both of them witnessed falls! Naragh
is an H6 hammer stone that penetrated the roof of a school on August 18,
1974. No casualties were reported. The other fall is Veramin, a
mesosiderite, which fell around April 18, 1880. Veramin has been kept in
Tehran's Golestan Palace since then.

3) Ireland has 6 recorded meteorites - all of them witnessed falls. (The
Tanzanians have competition!) All of Ireland's meteorites have been OC's and
one remains unclassified - Pettiswood.

4) Not to be left out, Northern Ireland (statisically seperatre from Ireland
proper) has 2 known meteorites, both OC witnessed falls.

5) The United States has over 1519 approved meteorites!

This US tally includes :

2 acapulcoites
5 aubrites
22 carbonaceous chondrites
2 diogenites
4 EL chondrites
11 eucrites
more OC's than you can shake a magnetic cane at
4 howardites
a boatload of irons
2 Martian meteorites (LA001/002  Lafayette)
8 mesosiderites
18 pallasites
1 rumuruti chondrite
2 ureilites
2 winonaites

:)

.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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Re: [meteorite-list] More Meteorite Geography Trivia

2008-12-13 Thread Jerry A. Wallace

Sterling wrote:


Well, the answer is that the chances of a meteorite landing
anywhere are exactly the same as of it landing anywhere else.
The landing of a meteorite is as purely random an event as
any natural event can be. There is no causal connection
between the path of the meteoroid and the geography of
the Earth or indeed, anything about the Earth except that
it got in the way of the meteoroid.


Hi Sterling, List,

I find it overwhelmingly necessary to take exception to your statement 
(above).


It is a well known and established fact that the great majority of 
meteors and
meteorites, given their druthers, aim for Texas. The ones that miss 
Texas can
only be attributed to having poor marksmanship skills or exceedingly bad 
taste.


Someone might point out that Northwest Africa seems to have an abnormally
high clustering of meteorites. Well, those were just wimps looking for a 
soft

landing. Didn't need that kind in Texas anyway.

'Nuf said.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all,

Jerry Wallace

-

Sterling K. Webb wrote:

Hi, List,

Michael wrote:
  

What are the chances of a meteorite landing on
a relatively-small island in the middle of a sea?



Well, the answer is that the chances of a meteorite landing
anywhere are exactly the same as of it landing anywhere else.
The landing of a meteorite is as purely random an event as
any natural event can be. There is no causal connection
between the path of the meteoroid and the geography of
the Earth or indeed, anything about the Earth except that
it got in the way of the meteoroid.

If you were standing idly about in your front yard and a
meteorite whizzed down and landed in front of your feet,
you would jump and scream, OMG! What are the odds
of that?! But the odds of that meteorite landing on the
square meter you were standing on is unaffected by the fact
that you were standing there. Likewise, any square meter
you stand on, anywhere, is as likely to have a meteorite
land on it as any other, whether that square meter of Earth
is land or sea, for example. (Since nearly 70% of the Earth
is water, 70% of all meteorites land there.)

So, when you go out into your front yard tonight to wait for
that meteorite to land at your feet, you can stand anywhere
in the yard you want to! (Or sit in a yard chair, if you want;
that doesn't affect the odds either.) Don't laugh! The meteorite
that lands -- Plop! -- at someone's feet in the front yard has
actually happened, and in relatively recent times. Check out
the NOBLESVILLE (Indiana) fall.


Sterling K. Webb
  

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