Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

That's how it appears at the moment but our government keep changing and
backtracking last minute on things so we will seealso many businesses
are in the dark as regulations on lots of things not clear or badly thought
out.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 21:14 Anne Black via Meteorite-list, <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Thank you Graham.
> And basically, for anything above L135, no changes.
> Business as usual.
>
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list  >
> To: Paul Swartz 
> Cc: meteorite list 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements
>
> In my experience the import charges/duty/VAT have been applied quite
> randomly whether or not the seller declared a correct value or not in the
> UK.
> So sometimes I get charged and sometimes not. If stopped we then also get
> an extra charge from the shipping company for handling it too. So on small
> items the charges can be far more than what was paid for the item!
>
> To be honest that side of things in not a problem. It is the fact our
> government wants the sellers in other countries to register with the UK for
> VAT and do the collecting of tax for them at point of sale and then forward
> that to the UK quarterly for smaller items below £135 that does not seem
> sensible. Otherwise I think it stays the same if above £135 and the taxes
> are collected at our border customs.
>
> Graham
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:08 PM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Current EU regulations state:
>
> Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate
> applicable in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are
> received for consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at
> the border, at the same time as customs duty and uses the price determined
> by customs.
>
> Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?
>
> A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS
> instead of having it deeply buried in Brussels.
>
> Paul Swartz
>
> >Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
> >From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com)
>
> >Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Thank you Graham.And basically, for anything above L135, no changes.Business as 
usual. 

Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list 
To: Paul Swartz 
Cc: meteorite list 
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

In my experience the import charges/duty/VAT have been applied quite randomly 
whether or not the seller declared a correct value or not in the UK.
So sometimes I get charged and sometimes not. If stopped we then also get an 
extra charge from the shipping company for handling it too. So on small items 
the charges can be far more than what was paid for the item!
To be honest that side of things in not a problem. It is the fact our 
government wants the sellers in other countries to register with the UK for VAT 
and do the collecting of tax for them at point of sale and then forward that to 
the UK quarterly for smaller items below £135 that does not seem sensible. 
Otherwise I think it stays the same if above £135 and the taxes are collected 
at our border customs.
Graham

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:08 PM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

Current EU regulations state:

Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate applicable 
in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are received for 
consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at the border, at the 
same time as customs duty and uses the price determined by customs.

Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?

A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS instead of 
having it deeply buried in Brussels.

Paul Swartz

>Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
>From: Michael Farmer     (m...@meteoriteguy.com)

>Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??

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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

In my experience the import charges/duty/VAT have been applied quite
randomly whether or not the seller declared a correct value or not in the
UK.
So sometimes I get charged and sometimes not. If stopped we then also get
an extra charge from the shipping company for handling it too. So on small
items the charges can be far more than what was paid for the item!

To be honest that side of things in not a problem. It is the fact our
government wants the sellers in other countries to register with the UK for
VAT and do the collecting of tax for them at point of sale and then forward
that to the UK quarterly for smaller items below £135 that does not seem
sensible. Otherwise I think it stays the same if above £135 and the taxes
are collected at our border customs.

Graham

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:08 PM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Current EU regulations state:
>
> Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate
> applicable in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are
> received for consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at
> the border, at the same time as customs duty and uses the price determined
> by customs.
>
> Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?
>
> A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS
> instead of having it deeply buried in Brussels.
>
> Paul Swartz
>
> >Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
> >From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com)
>
> >Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??
>
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[meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Current EU regulations state:

Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate applicable 
in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are received for 
consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at the border, at the 
same time as customs duty and uses the price determined by customs.

Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?

A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS instead of 
having it deeply buried in Brussels.

Paul Swartz

>Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
>From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com)

>Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??

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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Something is not clear.

Are you saying that the 20% VAT (collecting, registration,...etc) applies only 
to sales valued at LESS than L135 (Roughly $180)? 
But does not applies to anything with higher value, regardless of value?  

I got the impression that it was the opposite.

Please clarify.


Anne Black
IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com 


-Original Message-
From: MSG - METEORITES via Meteorite-list 
To: Michael Gilmer 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2021 7:44 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements



Hi Mike, 


Yep, sadly correct if the value is less than £135. Crazy! So you as a vendor 
would have to register for VAT with UK authorities, charge and collect 20% VAT 
on behalf of the UK government then file quarterly VAT returns and pay the UK 
government what you've collected on their behalf 


Madness! 


Cheers from across the pond. 


Martin 


Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk 
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone




On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 14:41 Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list, 
 wrote:

Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?



On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Attention Dealers:
>>
>>
>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>
>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>
>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>
>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>
>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>
>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>
>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>> declarations.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Paul Harris via Meteorite-list]

Hi Roberto,

No, as a business you can't falsify the declared value amount.  We've 
lost some sales over the years because we use the actual declared value.


Paul

On 1/12/2021 12:27 PM, Roberto Vargas wrote:
Don’t most packages have a declared value of $10 (Rock Sample for 
Study)? Sounds like it’ll be a $2 VAT per meteorite?


Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

*From:* Meteorite-list  
on behalf of Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list 


*Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:15:50 PM
*To:* MSG - METEORITES 
*Cc:* p...@meteorite.com ; Michael Farmer 
; meteorite list 


*Subject:* Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements
Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then 
you are all ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!


Graham

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
mailto:msgmeteori...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue
firmly in cheek and holding my head in my hands...

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk <http://www.msg-meteorites.co.uk>
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES,
mailto:msgmeteori...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk <http://www.msg-meteorites.co.uk>
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list,
mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:

Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”


Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via
Meteorite-list mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:

Hi Mike,


https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant

<https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant>

Paul


On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via
Meteorite-list wrote:
> Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean
that vendors based
> outside the UK will have to register with the UK
authority and pay
> taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>
>
>
> On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
> mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via
Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
<mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Attention Dealers:
>>>
>>>
>>> I just received the following from stamps.com
<http://stamps.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

---
>>>
>>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must
be collected for all
>>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>>
>>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to
£135 (about $180
>>> USD), which you must collect unless your online
marketplace (e.g. eBay,
>>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it.
Current procedures for
>>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>>
>>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed,
held, or returned
>>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following
steps:
>>>
>>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.

Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

It's not the extra cost it's the hassle and work it makes for sellers
that's the problem.

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 20:27 Roberto Vargas,  wrote:

> Don’t most packages have a declared value of $10 (Rock Sample for Study)?
> Sounds like it’ll be a $2 VAT per meteorite?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> --
> *From:* Meteorite-list  on
> behalf of Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:15:50 PM
> *To:* MSG - METEORITES 
> *Cc:* p...@meteorite.com ; Michael Farmer <
> m...@meteoriteguy.com>; meteorite list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements
>
> Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then you
> are all ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!
>
> Graham
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
> wrote:
>
> Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in
> cheek and holding my head in my hands...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”
>
>
> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
> > outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
> > taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
> >  wrote:
> >> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Attention Dealers:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just received the following from stamps.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ---
> >>>
> >>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
> >>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
> >>>
> >>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
> >>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
> >>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
> >>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
> >>>
> >>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
> >>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
> >>> declarations.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ---
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __
> >>>
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> the
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list]

Don’t most packages have a declared value of $10 (Rock Sample for Study)? 
Sounds like it’ll be a $2 VAT per meteorite?

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: Meteorite-list  on behalf of 
Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:15:50 PM
To: MSG - METEORITES 
Cc: p...@meteorite.com ; Michael Farmer 
; meteorite list 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then you are all 
ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!

Graham

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
mailto:msgmeteori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in 
cheek and holding my head in my hands...

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk<http://www.msg-meteorites.co.uk>
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
mailto:msgmeteori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk<http://www.msg-meteorites.co.uk>
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, 
mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
 wrote:
Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”


Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for 
iPhone<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>


On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list 
mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
 wrote:

Hi Mike,

https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant

Paul


On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
> outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
> taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>
>
>
> On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
> mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
>  wrote:
>> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Attention Dealers:
>>>
>>>
>>> I just received the following from stamps.com<http://stamps.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
>>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>>
>>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
>>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>>
>>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>>
>>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>>
>>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>>
>>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>>
>>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>>> declarations.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then you are
all ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!

Graham

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
wrote:

> Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in
> cheek and holding my head in my hands...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...
>>
>> Martin Goff
>> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
>> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>>
>> Sent from my mobile phone
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> > Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
>>> > outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
>>> > taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>>> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Attention Dealers:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> ---
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for
>>> all
>>> >>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>>> >>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g.
>>> eBay,
>>> >>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>>> >>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>>> >>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>>> >>> declarations.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> ---
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Paul
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[MSG - METEORITES via Meteorite-list]

Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in
cheek and holding my head in my hands...

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387

Sent from my mobile phone

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
wrote:

> Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”
>>
>>
>> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>>
>> https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> > Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
>> > outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
>> > taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Attention Dealers:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> ---
>> >>>
>> >>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
>> >>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>> >>>
>> >>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>> >>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g.
>> eBay,
>> >>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>> >>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>> >>>
>> >>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>> >>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>> >>>
>> >>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>> >>> declarations.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> ---
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> __
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[MSG - METEORITES via Meteorite-list]

Hi Mike,

Yep, sadly correct if the value is less than £135. Crazy! So you as a
vendor would have to register for VAT with UK authorities, charge and
collect 20% VAT on behalf of the UK government then file quarterly VAT
returns and pay the UK government what you've collected on their
behalf

Madness!

Cheers from across the pond.

Martin

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 14:41 Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list, <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
> outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
> taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>
>
>
> On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> > Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Attention Dealers:
> >>
> >>
> >> I just received the following from stamps.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ---
> >>
> >> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
> >> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
> >>
> >> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
> >> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
> >> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
> >> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
> >>
> >> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
> >> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
> >>
> >> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
> >>
> >> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
> >>
> >> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
> >>
> >> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
> >> declarations.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ---
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom” 


Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

Hi Mike,

https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant

Paul


On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
> outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
> taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>
>
>
> On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Attention Dealers:
>>>
>>>
>>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
>>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>>
>>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
>>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>>
>>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>>
>>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>>
>>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>>
>>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>>
>>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>>> declarations.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Paul Harris via Meteorite-list]

Hi Mike,

https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant

Paul


On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:

Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?



On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Attention Dealers:


I just received the following from stamps.com



---

Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).

There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
goods valued over £135 remain the same.

To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:

1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.

2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.

3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.

In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
declarations.


---




Paul



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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list]

Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?



On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Attention Dealers:
>>
>>
>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>
>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>
>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>
>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>
>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>
>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>
>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>> declarations.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Attention Dealers:
>
>
> I just received the following from stamps.com
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>
> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>
> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>
> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>
> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>
> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>
> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
> declarations.
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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[meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Paul Harris via Meteorite-list]

Attention Dealers:


I just received the following from stamps.com


---

Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all 
goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).


There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180 
USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay, 
Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for 
goods valued over £135 remain the same.


To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned 
by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:


1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.

2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.

3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.

In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs 
declarations.


---




Paul



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