Re: [meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)

2005-12-19 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ron,

Just an afterthought.  (I think I failed to include
the list in my previous response, but it said, in
short, that this absolutely does NOT sound like a
meteorite (or tektite, in reference to another reply).

But, what about a fulgurite???  These are never
metallic, but the metallic silica compound
description is broad enought to include
lechatelierite,  And the sand grains fused to the
exterior fit just fine.  Does it have a hollow glassy
interior?

As for the charred zone around it, I have never seen
such a thing in lightning-struck soils, but I have
seen essentially those exact dimensions in solid rock
on Ayers Rock, Australia.  

Cheers,
Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- Ron Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock
 deeply embedded in 
 hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground
 around it charred to a 
 radius of about 18. Having extensive experience in
 foundry science, I could 
 ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic
 state upon impact, with 
 sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing
 along the outer surface 
 to a tapered rear edge.
 
 I have had several geologists look at it, and none
 could identify it, except 
 to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no
 nickel alloys. Finally, a 
 metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it
 was a metallic silica 
 compound. This was surprising, since at that time,
 there were only a few 
 places in the world with the capability of creating
 such a compound, and 
 none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no
 explanation could be 
 offered as to how it would come to be embedded in
 the ground with the 
 perimeter charred.
 
 I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it,
 which I will either e-mail 
 or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The
 story behind my finding it 
 is pretty interesting, which has played a
 significant role in my keeping the 
 piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with
 the story, as it has 
 little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities
 leading up to the 
 discovery.
 
 If anyone on the list would be willing to help me
 determine just what the 
 thing is, please ping me privately.
 
 Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for
 listening.
 
 Ron Kaye 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)

2005-12-18 Thread Ron Kaye
About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded in 
hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it charred to a 
radius of about 18. Having extensive experience in foundry science, I could 
ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic state upon impact, with 
sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface 
to a tapered rear edge.


I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, except 
to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. Finally, a 
metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a metallic silica 
compound. This was surprising, since at that time, there were only a few 
places in the world with the capability of creating such a compound, and 
none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no explanation could be 
offered as to how it would come to be embedded in the ground with the 
perimeter charred.


I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either e-mail 
or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind my finding it 
is pretty interesting, which has played a significant role in my keeping the 
piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with the story, as it has 
little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities leading up to the 
discovery.


If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what the 
thing is, please ping me privately.


Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening.

Ron Kaye 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)

2005-12-18 Thread Gary K. Foote
From one relatively newbie to another it sounds like a Tektite - earth melted 
upon impact 
and remelted after being thrown above the atmosphere and reenterning.  Glassy 
in 
nature...  You say it is oblong or at least has a tapered end?  That is a 
regular feature 
of many tektites - formed by the aear-forces of reentry upon the plastic nature 
of the 
superheated earth.

Now, let's hear the rest on this list rip me wrong.  Ha!

How about a picture?  I'd love to see it.

Best,

Gary

On 18 Dec 2005 at 19:30, Ron Kaye wrote:

 About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded in 
 hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it charred to a 
 radius of about 18. Having extensive experience in foundry science, I could 
 ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic state upon impact, with 
 sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface 
 to a tapered rear edge.
 
 I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, except 
 to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. Finally, a 
 metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a metallic silica 
 compound. This was surprising, since at that time, there were only a few 
 places in the world with the capability of creating such a compound, and 
 none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no explanation could be 
 offered as to how it would come to be embedded in the ground with the 
 perimeter charred.
 
 I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either e-mail 
 or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind my finding it 
 is pretty interesting, which has played a significant role in my keeping the 
 piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with the story, as it has 
 little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities leading up to the 
 discovery.
 
 If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what the 
 thing is, please ping me privately.
 
 Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening.
 
 Ron Kaye 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)

2005-12-18 Thread dfreeman

Dear List, Ron;
Your story sounds like you have found a  rare Hollywood meteorite.  
DF


Ron Kaye wrote:

About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded 
in hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it 
charred to a radius of about 18. Having extensive experience in 
foundry science, I could ascertain that the item had been in a 
semi-plastic state upon impact, with sand embedded in the face, and 
gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface to a tapered rear edge.


I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, 
except to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. 
Finally, a metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a 
metallic silica compound. This was surprising, since at that time, 
there were only a few places in the world with the capability of 
creating such a compound, and none anywhere East Texas, where I found 
it. And no explanation could be offered as to how it would come to be 
embedded in the ground with the perimeter charred.


I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either 
e-mail or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind 
my finding it is pretty interesting, which has played a significant 
role in my keeping the piece all these years. I won't belabor the list 
with the story, as it has little to do with meteorites, beyond my 
activities leading up to the discovery.


If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what 
the thing is, please ping me privately.


Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening.

Ron Kaye

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