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The bottom line in all of this is that meteorite group names will last only as
long as they're useful
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There are two reasons why we can't get rid of carbonaceous chondrite
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Hi Jeff,
Of course the comparison between chondrite groups and martian types is
not perfect. The different martian types
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Hi Jeff,
Of course the comparison between chondrite groups and martian types is
not perfect. The different martian types are not from
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Hi Jeff,
Of course the comparison between
Hello Martian guys
Nwa 7034 is a new type of Martian
It doesn't fit into snc groups
So it make sens to name it as a new group a
As I said morroconaite is a good one
Thus what I suggest in
Honor of nwa hunters
S schergotite
N nakhla
C chassiny
M morroconaite /Saharanite
This is not something we
, 2013 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034
Jeff,
Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse things people
do with words just to come up with a cool acronym. Making the new
Martian meteorite acronym even half way cool requires some drastic
measures, like giving NWA 7034
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:56 AM
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Hi Carl,]
Saharite is already in use in reference to fulgurites found in the Sahara
Meteorite group names are not invented by NomCom, and certainly not by
NASA. The come from usage in the scientific literature.
I think we have to remember why names like shergottite and nakhlite came
into being. Scientists like to group similar things to help bring order
to chaos. When you
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Hi Carl,]
Saharite is already in use in reference to fulgurites found in the Sahara
Desert.
Phil Whitmer
Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum
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Hello Martian guys
Nwa 7034 is a new type of Martian
It doesn't fit into snc groups
So it make sens to name it as a new group a
As I said morroconaite is a good one
Thus what I
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Hi Carl,]
Saharite is already in use in reference to fulgurites found in the Sahara
Desert.
Phil Whitmer
Joshua Tree Earth Space
In any case: Nomadoite ...
Best
Matthias
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Maroccoite
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In any case: Nomadoite ...
Best
Matthias
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Maroccoite is also close to the mineral Marokite (CaMn2O4) already named to
honor the occurrence (Morocco or Maroc in French)
Berberite carry many favorable arguments however that name is very close to
the mineral Berborite
Well stated Jeff, one of the few times recently that we agree on issues.
There is the fever to coin new terminology for this apparent unique
stone (NWA 7034), which in essence is a breccia, but may not be a
basaltic breccia. Everyone should calm down and wait until some
further research
, January 27, 2013 12:15 AM
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nomadoite or a name that does not clarify the name of the country. I do not
think it is an honor for Moroccan. there are nomads every where. but the
name remain in hand of whom put in MetB.
Best,
Abdelfattah.
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Hello Ted,
Saturday, January 26, 2013, 3:27:34 PM, you wrote:
There is the fever to coin new terminology for this apparent unique
stone (NWA 7034),
If it's not named, how are people supposed to sell dubious samples of
it on eBay? :-p~
--- Jodie
Great to hear from you Dr. Ted; and thanks for the levity.
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:10 PM
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Hello everyone,
Instead of using exotic names for this group I would suggest to give to the new
group the name of the place where the NWA 7034 was found like the other groups
of the martian meteorites.
It will be a honor to all the hunters and dealers in the Maghreb (Morocco,
Algeria,
Dear Jodie - Selling on eBay is a dubious endeavor in itself.
Scientists are not enslaved to the problems of economic gains for the
unenlightened eBay flea marketeers.
NWA 7034 has extremely significant scientific potential, possibly
equivalent to or exceeds that of what the Mars Rovers
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:27:06 -0500
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Meteorite group
There are two reasons why we can't get rid of carbonaceous chondrite
group names. First, unlike Martian meteorites, we don't know where C
chondrites came from. We can't point to a single asteroid as the source
for any of them, let alone all of them. So the group names are still
serving
Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS?
Or maybe we should just do the sensible thing and call them Martian
meteorites?
Jeff
On 1/24/2013 4:42 PM, h...@meteorhall.com wrote:
Hi Paul,
I like the SNCB. It
Yes Jeff, maybe dropping the acronym and just calling them all Martian may be
the sensible thing.
After all, you don't want the general public SNCering at us, do ya?
gary
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Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
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Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS?
Or maybe we
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Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
If we use the N from NWA instead of B
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Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS
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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:33 AM
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Jeff,
Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse things people
do with words just to come up with a cool acronym. Making the new
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Jeff,
Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate the perverse
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Jeff
,
Martin
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Hi Greg,
The NWA 7034 main mass is the original ~320g single stone
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Jeff
. Black
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Jeff,
Now that you are at NASA you can appreciate
to the shergottites Y793605 and
Y27 with their ejection age of ~4.70 ± 0.50 My?
Best regards,
Martin
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Don't forget ALH 84001, the pyroxenite.
SNCPB?
If we use the N from NWA instead of B, and the A from ALH, how about CANNS
Hello all,
place of find named Lghrade
Thanks,
Abdelfattah.
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Hi Martin
(clinopyroxenites)
C chassignites (dunitic cumulate rocks)
A ALH 84001(orthopyroxenites)
Does anyone else see a problem with this?
Bob V.
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--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote:
Lets make it simple.
Now we can have:
Achondrite Martian Basaltic Breccia.
Simple as that.
Okay! We're settled, then: AMBB it will be!
(Sorry, Anne, I couldn't resist;-)
But seriously, folks
Breccia.
Simple as that.
Anne M. Black
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Jeff,
Now
How shall we organize the new class of Martian?
Until now it has been SNC
How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ?
SNCB
What say you all?
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On Jan 24, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Paul Gessler cetu...@shaw.ca wrote:
How shall we organize the new class of Martian?
Until now it has been SNC
How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ?
SNCB
What say you all?
-Paul Gessler
Maybe SNBC would be good.
Best regards,
MikeG
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Hi Paul,
I like the SNCB. It sounds like a radio station's call letters...Stay
tuned for all of your Martian meteorite news from SNCB.
Regards, Fred H.
How shall we organize the new class of Martian?
Until now it has been SNC
How about B or B squared for BASALTIC BRECCIA ?
SNCB
What
An interesting video on NWA 7034 was just released by UNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfFU3EGcWJY
Thank you!
Martin
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My revised classification of NWA 7034 was approved yesterday for this
new type of martian meteorite:
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