If the devices seem to work for the Iraqi's, I can propose
a simpler explanation for why the worthless wands do
anything at all.
What they do is make those with good reason to not
want to be stopped and especially not to be searched
nervous, because even the best-educated terrorist
probably
Same principle as lie detectors. Worthless for detecting lies, excellent for
getting perps to confess.
Phil Whitmer
If the devices seem to work for the Iraqi's, I can propose
a simpler explanation for why the worthless wands do
anything at all.
Faith! The do all placebo. The sugar pill that cures disease. We all know
placebo's work because the person believes them to work. Can dowsing or any of
many other devices be any different? Cheers Steve dunklee
On Sun Oct 17th, 2010 11:37 PM EDT Darren Garrison wrote:
Rich, you could really
Strange that you are happy believe that a stick is able to point to a
meteorite all by itself, yet don't accept that lie detectors work
(despite a considerable weight of research), and think that the Steward
Observatory, the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich, the
European Southern
I've got $10,000 for the first person who can successfully dowse the
location of the Mason Dixon Meteor.
Please contact me off list for details.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Mark Ford mark.f...@ssl.gb.com wrote:
Strange that you are happy believe that a stick is able to point to a
Hi Mark,
I never said I believe that sticks point to meteorites. I simply said I
observed the phenomenon of two wire rods crossing over an iron meteorite.
There are many observable phenomena that can't be explained by science.
Nobody knows what dreams are or how hypnosis works. Nobody knows
Fresh off the keyboard today:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/18/gallery-of-exoplanets-real-pictures-of-alien-worlds/
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The meteorite list can be a lot of fun and a source of learning. At times the
posts may be a bit off topic but they always return to meteorites. There are
many people here with a wealth of knowlege I appreciate. The off topic
discussions to some may be a pain but compaired to other forums are
Those all look like dwarf stars to me. But it's hard to tell with low-rez,
pixellated, out of focus pictures. I'm going to wait for better pictures
before I make up my mind.
Phil Plait has been known to jump to conclusions, don't forget he fell for
the Gerrit Blank hoax, (the 14 year old boy
This post by advanced imaginers, shows how some others are tickling the tail
of the dragon of The Hard Problem of Consciousness:
- Original Message -
From: JACK SARFATTI
To: sarfattisciencesemin...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Starfleet
I think mt delete button wires are crossing.
- Original Message -
From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com;
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
Hi Phil,
Your last statement is not true. It's very hard to find scientific
studies involving anything even remotely connected to the paranormal
(gasp!). Look into the German studies cited here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ADowsing
I read that abstract earlier in the week. If there
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:18:14 -0700, you wrote:
would be personal unfamiliarity with the rather bullet-proof science.
That would not suprise me in the slightest after reading this:
I don't pretend to understand how this phenomenon
works, any more than I understand how the dynamo at the Earth's
I'm going to need to see a visible light photograph of an exoplanet to
confirm their existence. Ditto for black holes. ;)
But then again, people believe in all kinds of things that are not
supported by evidence. You just have to really want to believe it:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 18:07:25 -0400, you wrote:
I'm going to need to see a visible light photograph of an exoplanet to
confirm their existence.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101015105935.htm
I'm going to need to see a visible light photograph of an exoplanet to
confirm their existence.
Here it is:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101015105935.htm
Next? Will the next in line please step forward?
Sterling K. Webb
Rob,
I have it on good authority, dowsing is real.
According to the New York Times, more than fifteen hundred remote
sensing devices have been sold to Iraq's Ministry of the Interior, at
prices ranging from $16,500 to $60,000 each. The devices are used for
bomb and weapon detection at
Those pictures look computer enhanced (photo-shopped) to me, I was thinking
more along the lines of something like this:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-mars.html
You know, real pictures.
Phil Whitmer
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I'm going to need to
Mike, on that note, dowsing is fraud.
In January 2010, export of the device to Iraq and Afghanistan was
banned by the British Government and the managing director of ATSC was
arrested on suspicion of fraud,[2] and in June 2010 several other
companies were raided by British police.[3]
From
Hi Mike,
I think the point of the article is relevant to what's being discussed
here. People that know for scientific reasons that dowsing doesn't work,
can't dowse because it won't work for them. Dowsing only works for the
ignorant like myself and dumb construction workers and plumbers. The
Phil,
Am I missing something here? You say the devices work at detecting bombs in
Iraq. I suppose that means that no more bombs are getting by Iraqi
checkpoints.
I wonder do we live in the same world?
Mike Fowler
PS It's not so much a matter of doubting the dowsers, as being amazed at
OH MY GOD!! We need a meteorite fall somewhere, NOW!!
Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/
--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com wrote:
From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Dowsing is real, but exoplanets are
dubious?!
To:
As a psychic and mystic, independent of conceptual historical frameworks, I
mention now, this very present moment in which your awareness automatically
translates these little crooked black and white marks into le t t te
r s into wo r d s with complex meanings, who has scanned
Just as the active software on a laptop limits powerfully the possible
offerings of the global Internet, strongly held personal beliefs and habits
of conscious experience strongly limit the field of awareness and the range
of acceptible experience.
Thus, skeptics re the paranormal refrain
Rich, you could really save yourself some typing time by just using this site:
http://randomtextgenerator.com/
(Unless--that is-- you already are.)
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:28:06 -0600, you wrote:
Just as the active software on a laptop limits powerfully the possible
offerings of the global
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