Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe
These 40 to 120% international postal rate increases and the new Affordable 
Health Care Act taxes will leave less money for generous and thoughtful people 
to donate to more worthy causes!

Fred, I recall purchasing a printing press from you that cost over $500.00 to 
ship a few years ago.  It would probably cost $1,500.00 to ship it today.  This 
would represent $1,000.00 to could go to pay for your kids education.

Enough rant from me, the cost will be passed onto the poor collector who in 
turn will have less to donate to more important causes than a postal service 
who seems to forget what service means.

Adam

  





- Original Message -
From: "h...@meteorhall.com" 
To: Adam Hupe 
Cc: Adam 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international =  crazy 
increase!

All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as
opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is
the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your
fresh white Kleenex, baby.
   The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep
Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me.
Fred Hall


> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for
> raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin
> except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is
> 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices
> realized may improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Boo Hoo, poor everybody!

Are you OK, Fred?




- Original Message -
From: "h...@meteorhall.com" 
To: Adam Hupe 
Cc: Adam 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international =  crazy 
increase!

All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as
opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is
the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your
fresh white Kleenex, baby.
   The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep
Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me.
Fred Hall


> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for
> raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin
> except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is
> 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices
> realized may improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread hall
All this crying over a postal increase is a First World Problem, as
opposed to a Third World Problem, where finding food and water EVERYDAY is
the REAL, and DESPERATE problem. So, lets all cry a tear, get out your
fresh white Kleenex, baby.
   The postal rates have been cheap, like the gasoline for my new Jeep
Grand Cherokee. I feel so downtrodden...boo hoo, poor me.
Fred Hall


> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for
> raises for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin
> except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is
> 99.999% gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices
> realized may improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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[meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread valparint
Martin,

So distinguished looking!

I'm sure your current PC is orders of magnitude better than a Commodore 64. I 
hope your office has kept pace.

cheers

Paul Swartz
IMCA 5204

> Here you have a view of my office,
> just before I switched from Sinclair ZX 81 to a Commodore 64.
> http://kuerzer.de/homeoffice1983 *
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe
They are still under federal control and are poorly managed.  They treat 
customers like crap by making them wait in long lines, cannot produce shipping 
software that works under all circumstances, should fire their IT department 
for producing a half-baked product, should teach their clerks how to type and 
inform their clients when they are going to be gouged with price increases.  
What is the postal service doing issuing passports if they are not directly 
controlled by the government?  Try waiting in line for 1 hour while the single 
clerk is issuing somebody a passport, ridiculous service!


Other than that, I find the clerks to be somewhat friendly when they are not 
overwhelmed. 


Adam



- Original Message -
From: Michael Mulgrew 
To: Adam Hupe ; Meteorite List 

Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy 
increase!

Adam,
The USPS has not directly received tax payer dollars since the 1980s.
Their poor finances do not necessarily reflect poor government
spending.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the 
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even 
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide 
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises 
> for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation 
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% 
> gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may 
> improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to 
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Adam,
The USPS has not directly received tax payer dollars since the 1980s.
Their poor finances do not necessarily reflect poor government
spending.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the 
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even 
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide 
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises 
> for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation 
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% 
> gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may 
> improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to 
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Martin, Adam and All,

I'm 75 and I remember my first paying job, after the $83.00 a month the regular 
Army paid me in 1955, was $1.35 an hour installing the new roof top aluminum TV 
antennas. Telephone switch boards, with live operators, were still in use with 
as many a six subscribers on one line. Some parts of Las Vegas went to a two 
letter prefix followed by four numbers in 1959. DUdley and EVergreen were the 
first. I had a cradle, rotary dial, phone till the 1960's. 

All long distance calls were placed through a live operator who had to talk to 
a live operator on the other end. There were no international calls for private 
citizens, everything was done by telegraph. A telegram was still the fastest 
and surest way to send a message, and they were delivered by hand until the 
late 1950's. Nearly 90% of Nevada had no telephone service except for a few 
local switchboards until 1960. A lot of small towns in Central Nevada were 
sorry to see the PONY EXPRESS shut down :0)

In 1968, I had to communicate with workers in the field and couldn't afford a 
legal two way radio system, and the components were huge! So, I rigged a 2000 
watt bi-linear amplifier to a 16 channel 5 watt Midland CB radio and 100' tall 
antenna. All illegal as hell, and when I transmitted, anyone listening to one 
of Las Vegas' three TV channels got stepped on. The Gehimestaatspolezei raided 
me one AM and convinced me to get an Amateur radio license and dismantle the 
rig. 

My first Motorola portable phone weighed eight pounds, had a shoulder strap, 
and was just to big to lug around, so up until the middle 1980's, I rented a 
repeater on a mountain overlooking the valley and used a UHF base station and 
hand helds.

Now, I can bounce live feeds worldwide off the Moon, or any number of 
satellites...who would have thunk? 

On subject, stamps in 1962 were 1 cent for post cards and 3 cents for 
letters...five cents for Airmail.

Regards,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536



  

-Original Message-
>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
>Sent: Jan 28, 2013 9:35 AM
>To: Martin Altmann 
>Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy   
>increase!
>
>Hi Martin and List,
>
>Oh I do remember the good old days.  When important people carried
>beepers and they were still dime payphones on every corner. I could
>fuel my gashog Camaro at 83 cents a gallon and a pack of Marlboros was
>$1.75.  A movie ticket was $3.  Minimum wage was $3.35 an hour at my
>first job.  The internet didn't yet exist and I downloaded software
>from dial-up BBS's at 300 baud.  It would take all night, sometimes
>8-10 hours, just to download a game that took up two floppy disks.
>One hiccup of line noise and the whole thing had to be scrapped and
>re-downloaded.  Rotary phone in the kitchen that had a long coiled
>cord that could be stretched halfway across the house and through two
>doorways was usually my "internet connection".  The handset would be
>unplugged and the cord plugged into the modem.
>
>How many people remember the old IRC's?  International Reply Coupons.
>These were once standard fare when making small purchases from
>overseas vendors - typically used when requesting a catalog to be
>mailed out.
>
>An ever-dwindling number of dealers still use snail mail to send out
>offerings, but it's a practice that is dying out.  I still appreciate
>it though and love receiving them.
>
>And yes, yes, and yes - I want one of those Meteorite Super Trump card
>decks before they are all gone.  Send me a PayPal invoice.  :)
>
>Now, if this was 1986, I'd press "Send" and this email would take
>about 10 minutes to send, line by line.  LOL.  And it wasn't called
>"email" then, it was simply a message.
>
>Best regards,
>
>MikeG
>
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>On 1/28/13, Martin Altmann  wrote:
>> But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap.
>>
>> Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters,
>> and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a "telegram". full stop.
>> Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out.
>> Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to "hectograph" them
>> (cool,
>> my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore).
>> Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Martin Altmann
True Mike!

Here you have a view of my office,
just before I switched from Sinclair ZX 81 to a Commodore 64.
http://kuerzer.de/homeoffice1983   *

Btw. do you know also this sudden and strange feeling, when you're watching
else excellent thrillers from the 1970s and early eighties, when then it
comes unavoidably to a scene playing in the police department?   The desks!
They are empty! Only a lamp, sometimes a typewriter - some paper..  and such
strange wooden sticks...hm so called "pencils", one or two black phones
with dial plates.  A metal filing cabinet in the corner. A water dispenser.
Wastepaper basket. City map on the wall with pins. Coatrack.

Uh how could they live and work then?

And what shall the children think?
I guess for them it's the same feeling, like when we had watched Buster
Keaton, Fats Arbuckle, Ben Turpin movies...


Gosh are w ld, Mike!

And now I'll calculate your bill,
Guess with what for an instrument?

With a Casio fx-100.
What a quality! It works still perfectly after 30 years.
That's what I call true sustainability!

Best!
Martin

*huh, nice recovery, look at the model in the centre,
Ah now we know, where the architects took the ideas for the Burj Khalifa
from!!


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Galactic Stone & Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 18:35
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
increase!

Hi Martin and List,

Oh I do remember the good old days.  When important people carried beepers
and they were still dime payphones on every corner. I could fuel my gashog
Camaro at 83 cents a gallon and a pack of Marlboros was $1.75.  A movie
ticket was $3.  Minimum wage was $3.35 an hour at my first job.  The
internet didn't yet exist and I downloaded software from dial-up BBS's at
300 baud.  It would take all night, sometimes 8-10 hours, just to download a
game that took up two floppy disks.
One hiccup of line noise and the whole thing had to be scrapped and
re-downloaded.  Rotary phone in the kitchen that had a long coiled cord that
could be stretched halfway across the house and through two doorways was
usually my "internet connection".  The handset would be unplugged and the
cord plugged into the modem.

How many people remember the old IRC's?  International Reply Coupons.
These were once standard fare when making small purchases from overseas
vendors - typically used when requesting a catalog to be mailed out.

An ever-dwindling number of dealers still use snail mail to send out
offerings, but it's a practice that is dying out.  I still appreciate it
though and love receiving them.

And yes, yes, and yes - I want one of those Meteorite Super Trump card decks
before they are all gone.  Send me a PayPal invoice.  :)

Now, if this was 1986, I'd press "Send" and this email would take about 10
minutes to send, line by line.  LOL.  And it wasn't called "email" then, it
was simply a message.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 1/28/13, Martin Altmann  wrote:
> But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap.
>
> Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper
letters,
> and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a "telegram". full stop.
> Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out.
> Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to "hectograph" them
> (cool,
> my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore).
> Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters.
>
> ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s.
>
> If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying
stamps!
>
> Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones?
> These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm?
> And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when
> they
> ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment
> walking on that and that road..
>
> Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny:
> At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a
> person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And
if
> he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because
> you
> knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone.   Hence it was a
> zero-information.
> And dear childr

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Yinan Wang
At this point I'd be happy to for them get rid of Saturday delivery as
long as international rates stayed sane so it wouldn't affect my
international sales...

-Yinan

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>
> (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the
> states-budget again ;-)
>
> I am all for peace, not war but I refuse to stick my head in the sand and 
> ignore what is happening.  Sure housing and electronics are cheap but 
> virtually none of friends around here has been able to hang onto their homes. 
>  It is like I live in a ghost town having over half the people pack up and 
> move into cheap rentals.
>
> Perhaps if the U.S. Post office embraced technology, they could lower their 
> rates.  Instead, I am forced to wait for a clerk who cannot type and keep up 
> with all of the poorly thought out changes.  There is barley enough room to 
> write in addresses on their new customs form and their online software will 
> not even run on every browser!   I was forced to purchase a very expensive 
> Zebra direct-thermal printer for postage and their international software 
> doesn't work.
>
> This is what happens when entities become too large to communicate with their 
> own staff or really care about their customers.
>
>
> I am beginning to believe that robots could do a better job.  At least they 
> do not show up to work with a category 5 hangover and complain about being 
> underpaid.
>
> Happy Shipping,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Martin Altmann 
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy 
> increase!
>
> But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap.
>
> Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters,
> and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a "telegram". full stop.
> Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out.
> Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to "hectograph" them (cool,
> my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore).
> Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters.
>
> ...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s.
>
> If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps!
>
> Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones?
> These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm?
> And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they
> ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment
> walking on that and that road..
>
> Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny:
> At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a
> person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if
> he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you
> knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone.   Hence it was a
> zero-information.
> And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to
> send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report
> where you are.
> Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether
> he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road,
> Becauuse he comes, when he comes.  All other information is
> irrelevant.
>
> Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption
> could be risen,
> if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the
> moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it?
>
> Alas,
> Children, we survived these old times, without problems.
> On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today.
>
> Today we suffered horrible deformations.
> Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision
> for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me,
> and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing,
> which would have taken easily 3 weeks.
>
> Skol
> Martin
>
> PS: Iiiieeek!  German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the
> meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in
> Germany buying stamps is VAT-free.
> Always those communists
>
> (PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the
> states-budget again ;-)
>
> PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm
> typing thi

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
gain ;-)
>
> PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm
> typing this posting...  ;-)
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> Galactic
> Stone & Ironworks
> Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12
> An: Adam Hupe
> Cc: Adam
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international =
> crazy
> increase!
>
> My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week.  It still
> sucks
> though.  Gripe +1.
>
> This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to
> collectors.
>
> A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays.  Now I wrap
> them
> up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer.  This
> saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage.  There is a
> higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far.
> I'll replace the occasional damaged one when the situation arises, so it's
> worth it to keep the overall costs down a bit.
>
> The international increase is the worst part.  I ship a lot of First Class
> International packages to places like Canada and the UK.  Some of these
> could be shipped for $4 or less.  Heck, a small bubble mailer to Canada
> often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same package to Hawaii
> or Alaska.  I guess that has changed now.  It's bad enough the customs
> short
> form now requires 10 minutes of standing in line for each package, and now
> this.
>
> Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not that
> long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or quality
> of
> service paid for has not.  It's the same as most consumer goods or services
> over the last decade - less for more.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
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> On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>> This is typical of USPS and Government in general.  Give absolutely no
>> warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the
>> last
>> possible second.  There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once
> they
>> realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care
>> Act.
>> As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases.  I
> remember
>> 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It
> is
>> now exactly double at $5.60.
>>
>> How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years?  The
> government
>> should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a
>> drunken gambler.   At least the gambler is spending his own money.  Most
> of
>> us are forced to live within our means!
>>
>> I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping
> price
>> hike.  We go through this once or twice a year.
>>
>> Happy Shipping,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Yinan Wang 
>> To: METEORITE LIST 
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
>> increase!
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> This is more of a "OMG, did you see the prices" message, although it
>> is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers.
>>
>> For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while
>> domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane
>> price increase:
>>
>> https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm
>>
>> So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95
>> (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to
>> $19.95 (over 50%!).
>>
>> Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for
>> some places seem to have gone up 125%!
>>
>> Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few
>> and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping
>> suggestions, feel free to chime in.
>>
>> -Yinan Wang
&g

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe

(PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the
states-budget again ;-)

I am all for peace, not war but I refuse to stick my head in the sand and 
ignore what is happening.  Sure housing and electronics are cheap but virtually 
none of friends around here has been able to hang onto their homes.  It is like 
I live in a ghost town having over half the people pack up and move into cheap 
rentals.

Perhaps if the U.S. Post office embraced technology, they could lower their 
rates.  Instead, I am forced to wait for a clerk who cannot type and keep up 
with all of the poorly thought out changes.  There is barley enough room to 
write in addresses on their new customs form and their online software will not 
even run on every browser!   I was forced to purchase a very expensive Zebra 
direct-thermal printer for postage and their international software doesn't 
work.

This is what happens when entities become too large to communicate with their 
own staff or really care about their customers. 


I am beginning to believe that robots could do a better job.  At least they do 
not show up to work with a category 5 hangover and complain about being 
underpaid.

Happy Shipping,

Adam










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From: Martin Altmann 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy 
increase!

But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap.

Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters,
and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a "telegram". full stop.
Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out.
Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to "hectograph" them (cool,
my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore).
Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters.

...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s.

If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps!

Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones?
These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm?
And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they
ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment
walking on that and that road..

Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny:
At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a
person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if
he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you
knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone.   Hence it was a
zero-information.
And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to
send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report
where you are.
Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether
he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road,
Becauuse he comes, when he comes.  All other information is
irrelevant.

Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption
could be risen,
if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the
moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it?

Alas,
Children, we survived these old times, without problems.
On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today.

Today we suffered horrible deformations.
Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision
for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me,
and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing,
which would have taken easily 3 weeks.

Skol
Martin

PS: Iiiieeek!  German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the
meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in
Germany buying stamps is VAT-free.
Always those communists

(PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the
states-budget again ;-)

PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm
typing this posting...  ;-)



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Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic
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Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12
An: Adam Hupe
Cc: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
increase!

My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week.  It still sucks
though.  Gripe +1.

This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to
collectors.

A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays.  Now I wrap them
up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer.  This
saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars 

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Martin Altmann
But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap.

Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters,
and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a "telegram". full stop.
Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out.
Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and to "hectograph" them (cool,
my English dictionary hasn't that word anymore).
Huh, we had then even extra-thin paper for airmail-letters.

...like it was common practice still far into the 1990s.

If I would do so, I easily would pay 15-20k$ a year only for buying stamps!

Or, hihihi, do you remember the first cellular phones?
These where you had still to carry a suitcase under the other arm?
And where the people and we laughed so much about the cockalorums, when they
ostentatiously screamed on the street in the handset: I'm just this moment
walking on that and that road..

Oops. Have to explain to the kiddies, why that was so funny:
At those times then, the phone was at home. If you called somebody and a
person was not answering, you knew that that person was not at home. And if
he answered, you hadn't to ask, where he is and what he's doing, because you
knew, that he's home and is speaking on the phone.   Hence it was a
zero-information.
And dear children, so it is still today! It makes no sense to call or to
send an SMS to ask, where the other would be at the moment or to report
where you are.
Because if you're waiting for someone, it doesn't help you to know, whether
he's in the supermarket, on a baseball field or on the road,
Becauuse he comes, when he comes.  All other information is
irrelevant.

Would be interesting to know, with how many billions the private consumption
could be risen,
if people would stop sending these empty information, where they are at the
moment and what they are doing at the moment, wouldn't it?

Alas,
Children, we survived these old times, without problems.
On contrary, it wasn't so stressing and stroboscopic like today.

Today we suffered horrible deformations.
Look at me, I get already impatient, because I'm waiting for Mike's decision
for 12 hours only, although he is at the moment 10,000 miles away from me,
and where we would have sent then letters forth and back for the same thing,
which would have taken easily 3 weeks.

Skol
Martin

PS: Iiiieeek!  German collectors have not only to pay import-VAT on the
meteorites sent fom non-EU, but also on the postage! That's mean, cause in
Germany buying stamps is VAT-free.
Always those communists

(PPS: To Adam I say, make money not war, then it works also with the
states-budget again ;-)

PPS: By the way, I'm sitting at the moment in front of my computer and I'm
typing this posting...  ;-)



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Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic
Stone & Ironworks
Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 16:12
An: Adam Hupe
Cc: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
increase!

My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week.  It still sucks
though.  Gripe +1.

This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to
collectors.

A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays.  Now I wrap them
up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a bubble-mailer.  This
saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars on postage.  There is a
higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully none have been broken so far.
I'll replace the occasional damaged one when the situation arises, so it's
worth it to keep the overall costs down a bit.

The international increase is the worst part.  I ship a lot of First Class
International packages to places like Canada and the UK.  Some of these
could be shipped for $4 or less.  Heck, a small bubble mailer to Canada
often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same package to Hawaii
or Alaska.  I guess that has changed now.  It's bad enough the customs short
form now requires 10 minutes of standing in line for each package, and now
this.

Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not that
long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or quality of
service paid for has not.  It's the same as most consumer goods or services
over the last decade - less for more.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> This is typical of USPS and Government in general.  Give absolutely no
> warning of impendi

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Wooddell
Adam and all!
Have you seen this?


http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-paper-capitalism-out-marxisim-in-2013-1?google_editors_picks=true



Jim


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the 
> government spending money they do not have.
>
> That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even 
> basic economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide 
> advice. The only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises 
> for themselves while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China.
>
> Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation 
> like gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% 
> gold and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may 
> improve.
>
> Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to 
> buy a new fall.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Call a spade a spade, we are talking about hyperinflation due to the government 
spending money they do not have.

That is what happens when politicians are not required to understand even basic 
economics and depend on other idiots (more politicians) to provide advice. The 
only timely vote you will see is when they are voting for raises for themselves 
while the rest of the world is in financial ruin except China.

Unfortunately, the price of meteorites has not kept up with hyperinflation like 
gold and silver.  perhaps if somebody finds a meteorite that is 99.999% gold 
and is not considered a collectable commodity, then prices realized may improve.

Buyers are getting a bargain these days unless they are among the first to buy 
a new fall.

Adam

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Mike Jensen
I just got hammered with the price increases this morning. I shipped a
medium flat rate box. On Saturday it would have cost $47.95 (the rate
I charged my customer, actually that Ebay charged them) for $45 worth
of merchandise. Today cost $59.95. So I ate the $12 additional cost.
My 5 oz box to Germany on Saturday would have cost ~$5 today $12.75!
So be prepared when you go to the USPS for some significant price
increases especially for international.
Mike Jensen

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
 wrote:
> My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week.  It still
> sucks though.  Gripe +1.
>
> This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors.
>
> A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays.  Now I
> wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a
> bubble-mailer.  This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars
> on postage.  There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully
> none have been broken so far.  I'll replace the occasional damaged one
> when the situation arises, so it's worth it to keep the overall costs
> down a bit.
>
> The international increase is the worst part.  I ship a lot of First
> Class International packages to places like Canada and the UK.  Some
> of these could be shipped for $4 or less.  Heck, a small bubble mailer
> to Canada often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same
> package to Hawaii or Alaska.  I guess that has changed now.  It's bad
> enough the customs short form now requires 10 minutes of standing in
> line for each package, and now this.
>
> Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not
> that long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or
> quality of service paid for has not.  It's the same as most consumer
> goods or services over the last decade - less for more.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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> On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>> This is typical of USPS and Government in general.  Give absolutely no
>> warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last
>> possible second.  There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they
>> realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act.
>> As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases.  I remember
>> 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is
>> now exactly double at $5.60.
>>
>> How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years?  The government
>> should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a
>> drunken gambler.   At least the gambler is spending his own money.  Most of
>> us are forced to live within our means!
>>
>> I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price
>> hike.  We go through this once or twice a year.
>>
>> Happy Shipping,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Yinan Wang 
>> To: METEORITE LIST 
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
>> increase!
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> This is more of a "OMG, did you see the prices" message, although it
>> is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers.
>>
>> For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while
>> domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane
>> price increase:
>>
>> https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm
>>
>> So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95
>> (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to
>> $19.95 (over 50%!).
>>
>> Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for
>> some places seem to have gone up 125%!
>>
>> Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few
>> and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping
>> suggestions, feel free to chime in.
>>
>> -Yinan Wang
>> __
>>
>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Spratt
Another one of the reasons I'm "cutting back" on my meteorite and 
mineral purchases from the U.S.


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Victoria, BC
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
My local clerk gave me a heads-up about this hike last week.  It still
sucks though.  Gripe +1.

This is just another cost that dealers will have to pass along to collectors.

A while back, I stopped using boxes to ship Riker displays.  Now I
wrap them up in a double-layer of padding and put them into a
bubble-mailer.  This saves several ounces on weight and a few dollars
on postage.  There is a higher risk of breakage now, but thankfully
none have been broken so far.  I'll replace the occasional damaged one
when the situation arises, so it's worth it to keep the overall costs
down a bit.

The international increase is the worst part.  I ship a lot of First
Class International packages to places like Canada and the UK.  Some
of these could be shipped for $4 or less.  Heck, a small bubble mailer
to Canada often cost under $3 and was cheaper than sending the same
package to Hawaii or Alaska.  I guess that has changed now.  It's bad
enough the customs short form now requires 10 minutes of standing in
line for each package, and now this.

Like Adam said - I recall the early days of Flat Rate shipping (not
that long ago actually), and while the cost has gone up, the amount or
quality of service paid for has not.  It's the same as most consumer
goods or services over the last decade - less for more.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 1/28/13, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> This is typical of USPS and Government in general.  Give absolutely no
> warning of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last
> possible second.  There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they
> realize all of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act.
> As far as shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases.  I remember
> 8 years ago when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is
> now exactly double at $5.60.
>
> How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years?  The government
> should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a
> drunken gambler.   At least the gambler is spending his own money.  Most of
> us are forced to live within our means!
>
> I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price
> hike.  We go through this once or twice a year.
>
> Happy Shipping,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: Yinan Wang 
> To: METEORITE LIST 
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy
> increase!
>
> Hi List,
>
> This is more of a "OMG, did you see the prices" message, although it
> is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers.
>
> For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while
> domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane
> price increase:
>
> https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm
>
> So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95
> (a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to
> $19.95 (over 50%!).
>
> Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for
> some places seem to have gone up 125%!
>
> Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few
> and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping
> suggestions, feel free to chime in.
>
> -Yinan Wang
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Adam Hupe
This is typical of USPS and Government in general.  Give absolutely no warning 
of impending price or tax increases and make decisions at the last possible 
second.  There are going to be a lot of shocked taxpayers once they realize all 
of the hidden tax increases in the Affordable Health Care Act.  As far as 
shipping goes, USPS is famous for surprise increases.  I remember 8 years ago 
when a small flat rate Priority Mail box cost only $2.80. It is now exactly 
double at $5.60.

How many people's salaries have doubled in the last 8 years?  The government 
should learn to manage our money better instead of spending it like a drunken 
gambler.   At least the gambler is spending his own money.  Most of us are 
forced to live within our means!

I can hear the complaining now from eBay buyers about the new shipping price 
hike.  We go through this once or twice a year. 

Happy Shipping,

Adam







- Original Message -
From: Yinan Wang 
To: METEORITE LIST 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:15 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy 
increase!

Hi List,

This is more of a "OMG, did you see the prices" message, although it
is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers.

For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while
domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane
price increase:

https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm

So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95
(a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to
$19.95 (over 50%!).

Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for
some places seem to have gone up 125%!

Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few
and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping
suggestions, feel free to chime in.

-Yinan Wang
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[meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Yinan Wang
Hi List,

This is more of a "OMG, did you see the prices" message, although it
is a subject that affects both meteorite sellers and buyers.

For those not aware, the USPS raised it's prices on Sunday, while
domestically it didn't change by much, internationally it's an insane
price increase:

https://www.usps.com/business/prices.htm

So small flat rate priority international went from $16.95 to $23.95
(a 40% increase!). To Canada small flat rate went from $12.95 to
$19.95 (over 50%!).

Even first class international starting price is now $6.55 and for
some places seem to have gone up 125%!

Unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do, alternatives are few
and still fairly costly. Although, anyone with affordable shipping
suggestions, feel free to chime in.

-Yinan Wang
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