Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2011-06-02 Thread Thunder Stone

Bill/List:
Thanks for posting:

How crazy is this:
That fine young gentlemen who is cutting the Old Women meteorite (back in the 
the late '70's) is a friend of mine.  We grew up together in Maryland and we 
would go rockhounding and spelunking together.  He has worked for the 
Smithsonian for some 30 odd years now.
What a small world it is,
Greg S


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Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2011-05-31 Thread Linton Rohr

Nice photos, Bill. Interesting story behind the Old Woman, too!
I stopped by to see the main mass at the BLM center in Barstow, CA a couple 
years ago. Well worth the trip, if one happens to be in the Southern 
California/Mojave Desert area. I've got a few photos in my meteorite album 
on my facebook page, for those of you who have access.

Linton

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[meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2011-05-28 Thread bill kies


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Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2011-05-28 Thread Stuart McDaniel

Wow!!



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Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2007-02-22 Thread greg stanley
Hi All:
   
  A friend of mine who lives near Washington DC actualy cut the Old Woman 
meteorite.  I remember it very well; it was the late 70's and when we got 
together, he would tell me how they cut it (with a wire) and it took months.  I 
also remember him telling me that Diamonds where found in meteorites - this 
really surprized me at the time.
   
  His name is Tim Rose and he is pictured standing next to a recently (cut) Old 
Woman meteorite in the book Rocks from Outer Space.  It was pretty wild to 
see a friend pictured in a book.
   
  I have not talked to him in many years; I've lost touch through the years.  
We would go rock and mineral hunting as well as spelunking. 
   
  Last May I began hunting meteorites in California and have done a lot of 
reading - I find the entire subject very interesting.
   
  I need to look my friend up and see what he remembers regarding Old Woman.
   
  -Greg Stanley 
   
   
   
   
   
   finders were David Friburg, Mike Jendruczak and Hack Harwood.

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znp06191977.html

And there was no reward for them??

The Smithsonian did offer them a reward, but it was far less then the $1 
million they wanted. The finders took the position it was a million or 
nothingand got nothing.

I have at least 100 Old Woman NPA's in my archive, of which only a few are 
listed here:

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpoldwoman.html

Clear Skies,
Mark


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[meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2007-02-21 Thread MARK BOSTICK
The finders were David Friburg, Mike Jendruczak and Hack Harwood.

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znp06191977.html

And there was no reward for them??

The Smithsonian did offer them a reward, but it was far less then the $1 
million they wanted.  The finders took the position it was a million or 
nothingand got nothing.

I have at least 100 Old Woman NPA's in my archive, of which only a few are 
listed here:

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpoldwoman.html

Clear Skies,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2007-02-21 Thread Jose Campos
Hi Mark and Bernd, (thru the List):
Thanks for all the info, references and pics received on the Old Woman 
meteorite. You are a mine of interesting information.
Again, obrigado.
José Campos
Portugal

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 The finders were David Friburg, Mike Jendruczak and Hack Harwood.

 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znp06191977.html

 And there was no reward for them??

 The Smithsonian did offer them a reward, but it was far less then the $1
 million they wanted.  The finders took the position it was a million or
 nothingand got nothing.

 I have at least 100 Old Woman NPA's in my archive, of which only a few are
 listed here:

 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpoldwoman.html

 Clear Skies,
 Mark


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-04 Thread Jeff Kuyken
That's right. Think of the irons found in the dry Aussie deserts. We are all
familiar with the nice Mundrabilla, Boxhole and Henbury indivuals but they
are all found as shale too. You just rarely ever see it for sale. Any of
these specimens sitting in one spot can weather very differnetly from
another relatively close by. It just depends on the specimens exact
location. Here's an example of Boxhole shale:

http://www.meteorites.com.au/sale/Boxhole221.2g.jpg

Cheers,

Jeff


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Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



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 Dear List,

 I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
 kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
moisture.
 Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
 specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
 the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
 centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
 check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
 after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
 grams or so.

 Here are the links:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


 Take Care,

 Adam


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  Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
  been offered up to collecters?
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-04 Thread MARK BOSTICK

Hello all,

Over 200 pieces of Old Woman meteorite shale were found in the same region 
of the original find about 10 years after the original discovery.  Besides 
locating the spot where the original meteorite was found, they (UCLA?) also 
planted a pole to mark its location.  Somewhere around here I have an 
article (off print?) describing the second round of hunting, which includes 
photographs of then and now of the find site.  I guess it would be then 
and then now:^)


If anyone else has to read this article, they would likely conclude there is 
a lot of Old Woman shale still lying around the lakerusting away.  Adams 
find is still very interesting because of the location of his find.  The 
other shale pieces were found much closer to the original find location.



I cant seen to remember the author but If there is enough interest I will 
dig up the article and scan it or translate it for sharing. (My memory says 
Frederic C. Leonardwho was not alive at this time so I think we can rule 
that out.)


You can read more the Old Woman meteorite via original newspaper articles on 
my website:


http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpoldwoman.html

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Farmer

Um, no. It is Government property.
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Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Strope

Steve:

Offers can be sent to:

Desert Discovery Center 
831 Main Street

Barstow, CA  92311

http://209.238.151.128/images/ebay/oldwomanmeteorite.jpg

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Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


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Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to moisture.
Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically match
the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the weight
after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


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 Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
 been offered up to collecters?


   steve arnold, chicago

 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Hupe
Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



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 Dear List,

 I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
 kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
moisture.
 Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
 specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
 the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
 centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
 check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
 after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
 grams or so.

 Here are the links:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
 http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


 Take Care,

 Adam


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 Subject: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


  Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
  been offered up to collecters?
 
 
steve arnold, chicago
 
  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread dfreeman

Dear Adam, List;
I have repeatedly found lots of cretaceous shale balls that have 
oxidized so much that a good magnet does nothing to them.  Even the 
metal detector doesn't recognize them.but, they are in odd 
locations, and seem to have been replaced by manganese, or manganese 
staining. Tim Heinz' site on meteorwrongs has a picture or two.  I still 
remain puzzled but have been too cheap to send them off for an irridium 
test.

Best,
Dave Freeman

Adam Hupe wrote:


Somebody asked the following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind Regards,

Adam



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Dear List,

I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite. It was found within 2
kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower elevation prone to
   


moisture.
 


Even though my piece has been converted to mainly shale with only a few
specks of elemental iron showing, Dr. Ted Bunch was able to chemically
   


match
 


the two and there are not too many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
centimeter bandwidth running around. Here are some links if you want to
check it out. I have it in my safe deposit box so I cannot check the
   


weight
 


after a piece was submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
grams or so.

Here are the links:
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


Take Care,

Adam


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Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman meteorite has ever
been offered up to collecters?


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
For after re-sale on ebay?

Matteo

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 Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the old woman
 meteorite has ever
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[meteorite-list] Old Woman Meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread CalSouth1
Dear List,

I could be wrong, and invite  opposing views, yet, a silicon result from an 
Iron body would be stretching the  subject.

Because of the fight between the discoverer's and the U.S.  Government, over 
the proprietorship the only owner now is the U. S. Government  and it will not 
be parceling out pieces for salenor will any silicon based  minerals be 
accepted as part of the main mass.

Just my humble and  somewhat ignorant opinion.

John Harper - Barstow, CA.  

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Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite

2006-01-03 Thread MexicoDoug

Adam and the anonymous  commentator:   Actually, it is a very good scientific 
question.   The person who asked was obviously thinking about sedimentary 
layers in the  mountains or their favorite geology text, or maybe the discovery 
 
channel.

I'd rephrase the answer to be:
Shale in geology is the  fragmentary-type sedimentary layer that splits in a 
planar manner usually has  high silicate content from the clays it formed 
originally from (with the help of  sea creatures).  Clays, very frequently 
absorb 
water in sheet like  macromolecules with high silicates so you can see where 
the planar shale  splitting derives from...You can have a sedimentary shale 
high in Calcium  (calcium carbonate) from skeletons and shells typically in 
ancient water sites.  Coals are also shales (remember the strip miners - an 
illusion to this planar  like splitting), when the same types of materials get 
carbonaceous.

In  the case of the iron meteorite, or for that matter, an old buried Colt 45 
or  horseshoe, the iron rusts in a manner that is layered, and splits off in 
a  planar mannerVoila - it can also be called shale for this planar 
splitting  characteristic.  Just like an onion rind, not to be confused with 
the 
onion  rind model of asteroids!

Saludos, Doug
(Hoping to bring my iron pick  to a far far away eucrite shale sometime and 
look for nice diogenite  crystals!)



In a message dated 1/3/2006 10:58:39 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time, 
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Somebody asked the  following question off-list. I will attempt to answer it:

Question:
I  am just  wondering how a totally Iron body can be converted to shale  just
two Kilometers  from the original find.  No offense, but isn't  shale pretty
much  silicon?

Waiting to be set  straight.

Answer:
It is converted to iron shale when it becomes  weathered or terrestrialized
(oxidized). This is a well-known
occurrence  as far as iron meteorites go. Canyon Diablo can be found as both
iron shale  and in elemental iron form depending on the degree of weathering.

Kind  Regards,

Adam



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From: Adam  Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006  6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old woman meteorite


  Dear List,

 I have a confirmed piece of the Old Woman meteorite.  It was found within 2
 kilometers of the original Old Woman at a lower  elevation prone to
moisture.
 Even though my piece has been converted  to mainly shale with only a few
 specks of elemental iron showing, Dr.  Ted Bunch was able to chemically
match
 the two and there are not too  many Coarse Octahedrites with a massive 1
 centimeter bandwidth running  around. Here are some links if you want to
 check it out. I have it in my  safe deposit box so I cannot check the
weight
 after a piece was  submitted for study. I believe it still weighs about 130
 grams or  so.

 Here are the links:
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.jpg
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman-a.jpg
  http://themeteoritesite.com/OldWoman.-b.jpg


 Take  Care,

 Adam


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  Hi list.I am just wondering if any of the  old woman meteorite has ever
  been offered up to collecters?
  
 
  steve arnold, chicago
 
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[meteorite-list] Old Woman meteorite, part III (or IV?)

2002-08-16 Thread Robert Verish

Hello Gregory,

When you sent this Original Message to me, I was
already out in the Mojave Desert - you guessed it,
getting ready for observing the Perseid shower.
Actually, I observed on Sunday evening - Monday
morning (Aug 11/12) with the intent of catching some
early Perseid earthgrazers.  And I think that turned
out to be the best meteor display, because on Monday
night and Tuesday night, there was way too much smoke
in the air from all the wild fires in Southern
California, being carried all the way out to Nevada. 

You just missed meeting me at the Barstow Desert
Discovery Center on Tuesday. But you did get to meet
Bob Hilburn's mother.  Bob and his mother are typical
of the volunteer spirit that drives most of the
research efforts being conducted in the Mojave Desert.


The BLM web page neglected to mention that the Old
Woman had a prior sample cut and sent to UCLA before
the Smithsonian cut their 15% sample.  Here's an image
I took at the Discovery Center of that etched surface:

http://www.geocities.com/bolidechaser/oldwomancut.jpg

Bob V.


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IV?) 

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Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:06:14 EDT 

I've just driven through the Mojave Desert to Las
Vegas (so as to have a good
Perseid-viewing-headquarters ONLY, of course ;-) and
will be stopping by the 
Desert Discovery Center in Barstow on my way back to
LA Tuesday.   We've briefly touched on the Old Woman
meteorite a few times on the list, and the rumors
about its possibly being moved or going into storage,
and about the tenuousness of the Desert Discovery
Center which has been the ol' girl's home for many
years, up to this point anyway.  
Anyone know the current status?Bob V.?

Gregory

http://www.ca.blm.gov/barstow/meteorite.html





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Re: [meteorite-list] Old Woman meteorite, part III (or IV?)

2002-08-16 Thread Sharkkb8
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You just missed meeting me at the Barstow Desert
Discovery Center on Tuesday. But you did get to meet
Bob Hilburn's mother. Bob and his mother are typical
of the volunteer spirit that drives most of the
research efforts being conducted in the Mojave Desert.

Sorry I missed you, BobI had met Hilburn's mother on previous visits, but at least this time when she spoke of the BLM, she seemed to be more positive about the general outlook for the future. She said they're making concerted efforts to keep up maintenance of the building, there's a new (to me anyway) sign out front hyping the "Old Woman" meteorite, etc. I just hope that her "volunteer spirit" (and that of her son) is enough to keep the operation afloat as far as staffing the place, though.one might reasonably worry that "volunteer spirit" alone, no matter how dedicated, can't shoulder the burden indefinitely. 

 Gregory



[meteorite-list] Old Woman meteorite, part III (or IV?)

2002-08-12 Thread Sharkkb8

I've just driven through the Mojave Desert to Las Vegas (so as to havea good Perseid-viewing-headquarters ONLY, of course ;-) and will be stopping by the "Desert Discovery Center" in Barstow on my way back to LA Tuesday. We've briefly touched on the "Old Woman" meteorite a few times on the list, and the rumors about its possibly being moved or going into storage, and about the tenuousness of the "Desert Discovery Center" which has been the ol' girl's home for many years, up to this point anyway. Anyone know the current status? Bob V.?

Gregory

http://www.ca.blm.gov/barstow/meteorite.html