[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS answer :)
Hello Listers, I would like to thank everyone that sent in their answers for the POP QUIZ. The Question was . In what year was the 1st lunar meteorite established as being from the moon? The answer is 1982. I would like to congratulate Kirk for being the Lister to send in the correct answer and will be winning a a free 565mg McKenzie Draw (b) meteorite fragment, found in the summer of 1989 while plowing a peanut field. Thank you Listers and till next time, ROK ON. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS win a free meteorite sample :) Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Aug 3 19:11:15 EDT 2012 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Window a rock with light (was: Taking a Robotic Geologist to Mars (MSL)) * Next message: [meteorite-list] FOR SALE AD: On Ebay--NICE little NWA-3118 CV-3 piece. * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers, Today is POP QUIZ FRIDAYS The name of the game Be the 10thLister to email me of the List with the correct answer and you will win a free 565mg McKenzie Draw (b) meteorite fragment, found in the summer of 1989 while plowing a peanut field. Question: In what year was the 1stlunar meteorite established as being from the moon? Good luck Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Window a rock with light (was: Taking a Robotic Geologist to Mars (MSL)) * Next message: [meteorite-list] FOR SALE AD: On Ebay--NICE little NWA-3118 CV-3 piece. * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Very nice Information guys. Well, I have been right on almost all of the Pop quizes, but have missed the lucky number 7 response. Perhaps I will respond 7 times next week..LoL Congrats to the winner, and keep up with the quizes! Craig __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANS METEORITE
Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have implications for future asteroid missions, sample extraction, and asteroid hazard mitigation. source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x/abstract I would like to congratulate Brett W for being the first to submit the correct answer because there was on 7th Lister that got the answer right. He will be getting a free Ornans 5mg fragment. Till next time keep on rocking Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE
I thought St Robert Quebec was also a recorded fall .The 12th I believethat would be 14 then Regards Simon -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Frank Cressy Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:13 PM To: John.L.Cabassi; Shawn Alan; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional structures, more than fractures. These conclusions have
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE
Hello All If you like, take a look at this link which provides a graph of the 13 meteorite. http://flic.kr/p/bf9EYZ Shawn IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net To: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass than is suggested by a commonly used empirical power law. We estimate bulk strengths on entry being characteristically of the order of 10−1–10−2 times the tensile strengths of recovered samples. We conclude that pre-entry, meter-scale interplanetary meteoroids are typically highly fractured or in some cases rubbly in texture, presumably as a result of their parent bodies’ collisional history, and can break up under stresses of a few megapascals. The weakness of some carbonaceous objects may result from very porous primordial accretional
Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE
G'Day Shawn, Frank and List Wow. Definitely pays to be educated. I appreciate everyone's input and I truly appreciate it. I stand corrected and now I'm researching where I went wrong. Thank you everyone. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:51 PM To: Frank Cressy; John.L.Cabassi; Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THEORNANSMETEORITE Hello All If you like, take a look at this link which provides a graph of the 13 meteorite. http://flic.kr/p/bf9EYZ Shawn IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net To: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hi John, Here's the list of 13. Příbram 4/7/1959 Lost City 1/4/1970 Innisfree 2/6/1977 Peekskill 10/9/1992 Tagish Lake 1/18/2000 Morávka 5/6/2000 Neuschwanstein 4/6/2002 . Park Forest 3/27/2003 Villalbeto de la Peña 1/4/2004 Bunburra Rockhole 7/20/2007 Almahata Sitta 10/7/2008 Jesenice 4/9/2009 Grimsby 9/26/2009 Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE G'Day Shawn Now that was a definite curve ball and a misunderstanding on my behalf. Your question was How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? I think the key words are meteorite and falls. Correct me if I'm wrong. I found Almahata Sitta is one of the most accurate recorded falls of all time. I also see interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids of your suggested reading. My question to you, regardless of the contest which I appreciate your generosity and my continued education; we have a conflict with meteoroids and meteorites. I'm interested to know in what you have posted, what meteorite falls make up this 13? Can you elaborate on their names of what actually hit the ground as a meteorite? Just curious. An over-active mind Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:51 PM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER AND WINNER OF THE ORNANSMETEORITE Hello Listers Sorry for the delay been busy with other projects. I would like to give a shout out to the Mars meteorite and the finalized name :) cool stuff, cant wait to read about it in my MAPS. If people do not know what I am talking about go to http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ an join the CLUB it worth every penny. Now back to the QUIZ I would like to say thank you Listers for sending in your answer :) Question How many meteorite falls are there with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage? Answer 13 If you like to read up on this keep on reading... Very low strengths of interplanetary meteoroids and small asteroids 1. Olga POPOVA1,*, 2. Jiří BOROVIČKA2, 3. William K. HARTMANN3, 4. Pavel SPURNÝ2, 5. Edwin GNOS4, 6. Ivan NEMTCHINOV1,†, 7. Josep M. TRIGO-RODRÍGUEZ5 Article first published online: 29 SEP 2011 DOI: 10./j.1945-5100.2011.01247.x © The Meteoritical Society, 2011 Issue Meteoritics Planetary Science Volume 46, Issue 10, pages 1525–1550, October 2011 Abstract– We have assembled data on 13 cases of meteorite falls with accurate tracking data on atmospheric passage. In all cases, we estimate the bulk strength of the object corresponding to its earliest observed or inferred fragmentation in the high atmosphere, and can compare these values with measured strengths of meteorites in the taxonomic class for that fall. In all 13 cases, the strength corresponding to earliest observed or inferred fragmentation is much less than the compressive or tensile strength reported for that class of stony meteorites. Bulk strengths upon atmospheric entry of these bodies are shown to be very low, 0.1 to approximately 1 MPa on first breakup, and maximal strength on breakup as 1–10 MPa corresponding to weak and “crumbly” objects, whereas measured average tensile strength of the similar meteorite classes is about 30 MPa. We find a more random relation between bulk sample strength and sample mass
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS ANSWER
Hello Listers, I hope everyone is having a good day. As for me and the rest of the east coast I think we made it through Irene for the most part. For those of the List members that were also in the path of Irene I hope you made it out safe and sound. I would like to start off and say thank you to everyone that sent in an answer this week. I am excited to announce the winner.. Question Please tell me the first recognized impact crater on Earth. Answer Meteor Crater aka Barringer Crater http://www.meteorcrater.com/ I would like to congratulate Ron H for being the 10th Lister to email the correct answer and he will be receiving a free 200mg Harrisonville meteorite fragment. Thank you guys and gals and till next time, Rock on. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Aug 26 17:16:30 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT ad - STS-1 Next message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers I hope everyone is having great day. Today is POP QUIZ FRIDAYS The name of the game. Be the 10th Lister to email off the List with the correct answer and you will win a free 200mg Harrisonville meteorite fragment. Question Please tell me the first recognized impact crater on Earth. Good Luck and rock on Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT ad - STS-1 Next message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Listers I would like to say thank you for everyone that submited their answers for the POP QUIZ. Question: Which class of meteorites closely matches the chemical composition of the Sun? Answer: CI I would like to say only 8 Listers got it right and the first Lister turned down the prize cause the have the whole set so the next in line with the correct answer is Norbert C and he wins a free Meteorite Magazine copy from Nov 1996. Thnak you everyone and have a great weekend and BBQ safely and keep looking up in the skies over the weekend. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS :) Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri May 27 16:12:45 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Odp: CC or type 3 Next message: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - FYI: an L3-6 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers Its POP QUIZ FRIDAYS I hope everyone has a great holiday weekend and gets some meteorite hunting in, as for me, ill be stuck in the Big Apple, but will have alot of activities to keep me busy. Name of the game Be the 10th Listerite to email me off the List with the correct answer and you will win a free Meteorite Magazine from Nov 1996. Featured in that issue is Abee meteorite, Holbrook fall, Martian life, and Paris Exhibition. Question Which class of meteorites closely matches the chemical composition of the Sun? Good Luck Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] Odp: CC or type 3 Next message: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 - FYI: an L3-6 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I also sent in Mount Baldr?? Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Kirk, Carl2, Chris, and who ever else :) As for the question it wasn't a trick. I can see from many sources that they both say ALH76001 was found in Dec 76 and also Mount Baldr in Dec 76. Chris also had provided a link to a site which stated that the Mount Baldr was found in Dec 76 a month before ALH76001 but it also says ALH67001 was found in Dec76 as well. If you guys already know this the first two numbers with the Antarctica meteorites corresponds to the year found and the last three numbers is the order of which it was looked at by scientist, which this doesn't mean that it was the first one found in that area from that year just means it was looked at in that order. A few weeks ago I had emailed members from MetSoc with a question and a professor from Berkley had told to me the ALH76001 was the first meteorite found by the ANSMET team, so I thought that would make a good pop quiz question. And now here we are with the question which one was found first. In the mean time I have contacted a few people that worked with the ANSMET team and also emailed people that were around when the team was first made back in the 70's. So lets see what happens because I am also interested in knowing what was the first meteorite found by the team on the ice because this program is very important to meteoritical science and be nice to know for sure. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Becky and Kirk bandk at chorus.net Mon May 9 16:55:42 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Next message: [meteorite-list] Mohs hardness and meteorites Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I also sent in Mount Baldr?? Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselguapo1 at hotmail.com To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Next message: [meteorite-list] Mohs hardness and meteorites Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Shawn: Is Yamato 691 the very first ever found in Antartica? It was 1969. Greg S Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:46:05 -0700 From: photoph...@yahoo.com To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com; ba...@chorus.net; cspr...@islandnet.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Kirk, Carl2, Chris, and who ever else :) As for the question it wasn't a trick. I can see from many sources that they both say ALH76001 was found in Dec 76 and also Mount Baldr in Dec 76. Chris also had provided a link to a site which stated that the Mount Baldr was found in Dec 76 a month before ALH76001 but it also says ALH67001 was found in Dec76 as well. If you guys already know this the first two numbers with the Antarctica meteorites corresponds to the year found and the last three numbers is the order of which it was looked at by scientist, which this doesn't mean that it was the first one found in that area from that year just means it was looked at in that order. A few weeks ago I had emailed members from MetSoc with a question and a professor from Berkley had told to me the ALH76001 was the first meteorite found by the ANSMET team, so I thought that would make a good pop quiz question. And now here we are with the question which one was found first. In the mean time I have contacted a few people that worked with the ANSMET team and also emailed people that were around when the team was first made back in the 70's. So lets see what happens because I am also interested in knowing what was the first meteorite found by the team on the ice because this program is very important to meteoritical science and be nice to know for sure. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Becky and Kirk bandk at chorus.net Mon May 9 16:55:42 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Next message: [meteorite-list] Mohs hardness and meteorites Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I also sent in Mount Baldr?? Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: Carl 's To: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Next message: [meteorite-list] Mohs hardness and meteorites Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The first meteorite to be found in Antarctica was Adelie Land. Found in 1912 by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition. An L5 stone of 2.2 lbs Chris. Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I think, but I am not sure, that Shawn's question was not What is the first meteorite found in Antarctica?. I think he was asking what was the first meteorite found by ANSMET. Best regards, MikeG --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 On 5/9/11, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: The first meteorite to be found in Antarctica was Adelie Land. Found in 1912 by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition. An L5 stone of 2.2 lbs Chris. Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yamato 691 was recoverd before the ANSMET was founded. excerpt from Meteorite, Ice, and Antarctica At that time, Dr. Mort Turner was Program Manager for Geology at the former Division of Polar Programs (now known as Office of Polar Programs), and I had gotten to know him in the course of events involved in my unsuccessful research proposal. In an agony of frustration, I called him up and gave him the latest news. After only a moment, he said in a thoughtful tone of voice, “Well, the panel has just declined your proposal again, but they did not have this information. I urge you to resubmit it immediately, and I think it will be funded.” And that is the way it turned out: we were funded for the 1976–77 summer field season, on the third try. The project would become known as the Antarctic Search for Meteorites, or ANSMET. The Japanese, meanwhile, recovered 307 more specimens during the 1975–76 austral summer. So it seems the program was first introducted in 76-77. At that time I wonder if it was just the American with the program because I think now the program also has teams from other countries now. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer To: photoph...@yahoo.com, carloselgua...@hotmail.com, ba...@chorus.net, cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 5:50 PM Shawn: Is Yamato 691 the very first ever found in Antartica? It was 1969. Greg S Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:46:05 -0700 From: photoph...@yahoo.com To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com; ba...@chorus.net; cspr...@islandnet.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Kirk, Carl2, Chris, and who ever else :) As for the question it wasn't a trick. I can see from many sources that they both say ALH76001 was found in Dec 76 and also Mount Baldr in Dec 76. Chris also had provided a link to a site which stated that the Mount Baldr was found in Dec 76 a month before ALH76001 but it also says ALH67001 was found in Dec76 as well. If you guys already know this the first two numbers with the Antarctica meteorites corresponds to the year found and the last three numbers is the order of which it was looked at by scientist, which this doesn't mean that it was the first one found in that area from that year just means it was looked at in that order. A few weeks ago I had emailed members from MetSoc with a question and a professor from Berkley had told to me the ALH76001 was the first meteorite found by the ANSMET team, so I thought that would make a good pop quiz question. And now here we are with the question which one was found first. In the mean time I have contacted a few people that worked with the ANSMET team and also emailed people that were around when the team was first made back in the 70's. So lets see what happens because I am also interested in knowing what was the first meteorite found by the team on the ice because this program is very important to meteoritical science and be nice to know for sure. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Becky and Kirk bandk at chorus.net Mon May 9 16:55:42 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Next message: [meteorite-list] Mohs hardness and meteorites Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I also sent in Mount Baldr?? Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: Carl 's To: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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A lot of my recent postings on ANSMET are from old resources and my memory. The Japanese were not looking for meteorites per say but rocks, a few of these rocks turned out to be meteorites. After that both countries sort of agreed to share hunting resources. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Me too. --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote: From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 3:55 PM I also sent in Mount Baldr?? Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Hi Shawn, Chris and all, Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks to Shawn for the time he makes for these fun quizzes.:) Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: ...Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text. Shawn wrote: Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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to Antarctica during the 1976-1977 season, on blue ice. They weighed 13.782 kg and 4.108 kg respectively and were found 700 m apart. Again two stones but no mention of a helicopter. It would be nice if I could find out the name and location of the second base camp. Also I like to add that Chris also sent a link that stated that the Mount Baldr was found a month before the ALH76001. But I have seen that both meteorites were found in Dec 76 and the month has to be a typeo because in the book, William states that it took 6 more weeks before they found more meteorites. At any rate it will be interesting to find out which was found first by the ANSMET team or it could be another stone altogether. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer Chris Spratt cspratt at islandnet.com Mon May 9 20:46:53 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] OT: Scoobie Scoobie Do Mystery- Shaggy Scoobie are only interested in Cheesy Mifflin Sniffing Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] A lot of my recent postings on ANSMET are from old resources and my memory. The Japanese were not looking for meteorites per say but rocks, a few of these rocks turned out to be meteorites. After that both countries sort of agreed to share hunting resources. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) Previous message: [meteorite-list] OT: Scoobie Scoobie Do Mystery- Shaggy Scoobie are only interested in Cheesy Mifflin Sniffing Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Helli Listers I would like to thank everyone that submitted their answers and congratulated John L C for being the Lister to send me the correct answer. He will be receiving a free Harrisonville 245mg meteorite fragment found in 1933 in Cass Co. Missouri. Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Answer Allan Hills 76001 (ALHA 76001)found in 1976 or 1978 by the ANSMET team. For those you that would like to read up on the Antartica research trips I was able to find a PDF copy METEORITES,ICE, AND ANTARTICA a personal account by William A. Cassidy Introduction The Yamato Mountain Range wraps the ice sheet around its shoulders like an old man with a shawl. Ice coming from high off the ice plateau of East Antarctica, arriving from as far away as a subice ridge 600 km to the south, finds this mountain range is the first barrier to its flow. The ice has piled its substance up against the mountains in a titanic contest that pits billions of tons of advancing ice against immovable rock, whose roots extend at least to a depth of 30 km. The ice is moving because billions of tons of ice are behind it, pushing it off the continent and into the sea. Ultimately it yields, diverging to flow around the mountains. On the upstream side the rocks have been almost completely overwhelmed – only pink granite peaks protrude above the ice, which spills down between and around them in tremendous frozen streams and eddies, lobes, and deeply crevassed icefalls. The change in elevation of some 1100 m between the high plateau upstream of the mountains and the lower ice flowing away from the downstream slopes creates a spectacular view of this giant downward step in the ice surface. Almost constant howling winds from the interior blow streamers of ice crystals off the mountain peaks and “snow snakes” dance down the slopes in sinuous trains, as if somehow connected to each other. The scale of the scene is such that people become mere specks in an awesome, frigid emptiness. http://proxy.bookfi.org/genesis1/137000/375adbfbeda132a16e08963461b8dc42/_as/%5BCassidy%20R.E.%5D_Meteorites,%20Ice,%20and%20Antarctica%20A%20Personal%20Account(BookFi.org).pdf Meteoritical Bulletin Database DISCOVERY OF THE ALLAN HILLS A76001, ANTARCTICA, STONY METEORITE Name: ALLAN HILLS A76001 Place of find: West of Allan Nunatak, on the edge of the Polar plateau, Victoria Land, Antarctica. 76°45'00S., 159°22'34E. Date of find: January 18, 1977. Class and type: Stone. Olivine-hypersthene chondrite (L6). Olivine Fa24.5. Number of individual specimens: 1 Total weight: 20.151 kg Circumstances of find: Sighted from a helicopter which was taxying 10-15 m above bare ice, during the 1976-1977 season of the U.S.-Japan Joint Antarctic Expedition, 80 m from Allan Hills A76002. Source: K. Yanai, 1978. First meteorites found in Victoria Land, Antarctica, December 1976 and January 1977. Mem. Nat. Inst. Polar Res., Special Issue No. 8, 51-69. Note: Also known as Allan Nunatak No. 1 and as Allan Hills No. 1. Allan Hills A76001 is the name approved by the Nomenclature Committee of the Meteoritical Society. See also: W.A. Cassidy, E. Olsen and K. Yanai, 1977. Antarctica: a deep-freeze storehouse for meteorites. Science 198, 727-73 1, where the coordinates are given as 76°39'27S., 159°33'16E., and E. Olsen etal., 1978. Eleven new meteorites from Antarctica, 1976-1977. Meteoritics 13, 209-225. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri May 6 17:04:20 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] One more offcial meteorite from 2010. Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay: a few very nice meteorites... Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers, Its POP QUIZ FRIDAYS Be the 10th Lister to email me the correct answer and you will win a free Harrisonville 245mg meteorite fragment found in 1933 in Cass Co. Missouri. Question What is the first ANSMET meteorite to be collected? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] One more offcial meteorite from 2010. Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay: a few very nice meteorites... Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sent this earlier. Did not get posted. Thought Mount Baldr was the first. See: http://geology.cwru.edu/~amlamp/DryValleys/MBR/MBR96text.html Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Listers I am hoping everyone is having a great day :) I am posting the answer today from POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. Question How many approved meteorite falls are there? According to Meteoritical Bulletin Database there are 1092 which show up in the search but with Laurence Garvie post on Red Canyon Lake fall there is 1093 approved meteorite falls now. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php I would like to announce today that there are two winners, Matt emailed me first with 1092 because there was no 10th Listers with the correct answer and Andre B with 1093, the updated answer. Great job guys and thank you everyone that submits your answers. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ FRIDAYS win a million $$$ Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Apr 1 16:41:58 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hairy story Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - Staggering New American CM1 Meteorite - As Seen on ... Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers Yes today is POP QUIZ FRIDAYS but no million $$$ April fools, but you do have a chance to win 115mg LOT of Saratov meteorite which fell 1918 in Russia. Name of the game be the 10th Lister to email me off the list with the correct answer and you win. Question How many approved meteorite falls are there? Good Luck Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hairy story Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - Staggering New American CM1 Meteorite - As Seen on ... Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Listers, I would like to thank everyone that sent in their answers and I enjoyed the feedback on this POP QUIZ question. I would like to congratulate Andre b being the 10th Lister to email the correct answer. Andre will receive a free 115mg Saratov meteorite fragment which fell on Sept. 6th, 1918 in Russia. Question True or False The absorption and reemission of electromagnetic radiation on small size asteroids in the range of 1-10km can have a tiny force that leads to large, long-term effects in the orbits of the small bodies? Answer True If you would like to learn more about this process which in the meteoritcal science community is know as the Yarkovsky effect , discovered by a Russian civil engineer Ivan Osipovich Yarkovsky (1844–1902) click on these links below. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2003/163.cfm http://impact.arc.nasa.gov/news_detail.cfm?ID=132 http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~davidn/papers/kyarko.pdf Detection of the Yarkovsky effect for main-belt asteroids by David Nesvorný ∗, William F. Bottke Abstract The Yarkovsky effect, a non-gravitational acceleration produced by the anisotropic emission of thermal energy (Öpik, 1951, Proc. Roy. Irish Acad. 54, 165–199), plays an important role in the dynamical evolution of asteroids. Current theoretical models of the Yarkovsky effect, however, rely on a number of poorly known parameters that can only approximate how real asteroids respond to solar heating. To improve this situation, we investigated whether the orbital distribution of the Karin cluster, a 5.8 ± 0.2 Myr old S-type asteroid family (Nesvorný et al., 2002a, Nature 417, 720–722), could be used to determine the rate at which multikilometer main-belt asteroids spread in semimajor axis due to the Yarkovsky effect. Our results indicate that the orbital histories of individual Karin cluster members bear clear signatures of having drifted in semimajor axis drift since their formation. Using numerical methods, we determined the drift speed of ≈ 70 Karin cluster members (asteroids 1–6 km in diameter). This is the first time the speed that main-belt asteroids evolve in the semimajor axis due to the non-gravitational effects have been measured. The magnitude of measured speeds is similar to those predicted by theoretical models of the Yarkovsky force. Taken together, our results represent the first direct detection of the Yarkovsky effect for main-belt asteroids, and they validate in significant ways the asteroid thermal models described in the recent literature (e.g., Vokrouhlický, 1999, Astron. Astrophys. 344, 362–366). By comparing the measured drift speeds to those calculated from theoretical models of the Yarkovsky effect, we determined that Karin cluster members do not have surface thermal conductivities K in excess of ∼ 0.1Wm−1 K−1. Instead, their derived K values are consistent with the presence of regolith over most/all of their ∼ 5.8 Myr lifetimes. This low-conductive regolith layer may be thin because the penetration depth of the diurnal thermal wave is 5 cm. The regolith material may have been deposited in the immediate aftermath of the Karin cluster formation event or was produced over time by impacts. Our method also allows us to estimate spin obliquity values for Karin cluster members. We find that members with diameters 3.5-km are predominantly retrograde rotators, while those 3.5-km have obliquities more equally distributed between 0◦ and 180◦. These data may be used to study the spin states of asteroids produced by catastrophic disruption events. Interestingly, we find that a few Karin members have drifted further than predicted by our standard Yarkovsky model. We hypothesize these objects may have: (i) faster drift speeds than predicted by theoretical models, (ii) high albedos ( 0.3), and/or (iii) densities 2 gcm−3. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Listers I like to thank everyone that submitted their answers to me for this installment of POP QUIZ FRIDAYS. I would have to say the question I asked was kinda a hard one to research on the Internet, but if you some poking around, you would have found the answer. I would like to congratulate Regine P. being the first Lister to give me the correct answer because I didnt get a 7th Lister to send me the right answer. Regine won a free issue of Meteorite magazine from Feb 1998 which this issue has great images taken by Martin G. Horejsi, article about The Burnwell meteorite, Centerpiece about Melrose(a), and a visit about the old woman meteorite and not to mention other great articles to read about. I also have to add I enjoy looking at the AD's from 1998 and comparing them to now. The question: Please tell me how many F Class asteroids there are in the main belt. The answer: The rarity of F-class asteroids (only 4%, 92 of 2000 classified asteroids) and ureilites (only 0.6% of meteorite falls, 6 of 987) suggests that the source region in the asteroid belt is a spectral anomaly. The answer can be found in the Oct-Nov 2010 Maps issue in the article called Almahata Sitta (=asteroid 2008 TC3) and the search for the ureilite parent body By Peter JENNISKENS1*, Je´re´mie VAUBAILLON2, Richard P. BINZEL3, Francesca E. DeMEO3,4, David NESVORNY´ 5, William F. BOTTKE5, Alan FITZSIMMONS6, Takahiro HIROI7, Franck MARCHIS1, Janice L. BISHOP1, Pierre VERNAZZA8, Michael E. ZOLENSKY9, Jason S. HERRIN9, Kees C. WELTEN10, Matthias M. M. MEIER11, and Muawia H. SHADDAD1 If by chance you dont have Maps and cant access the article on the Internet email me off the List and Ill send you a pdf file with the information. Till next time, rock on :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
