[meteorite-list] Re: Moss Meteorite

2006-08-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi Robert,

As Mike mentioned, it is extremely fine-grained and not only difficult to
see 'in-person' but almost impossible to photograph too. Judging by some of
the other pics I've seen, I think some of the larger fragments with a larger
flat broken surface area tend to highlight the interior a little better.

The main problem with viewing this meteorite, is the fact that you can only
see so much from a broken fragment surface. It's impossible to see how
tightly packed the chondrules are and therefore how big and how many there
actually are. Obviously. the best way to see the interior would be with a
polished surface and I've been thinking about polishing the flat side of my
fragment. But I haven't quite talked myself into it yet! ;-) I'd be really
interested to see what Mike's polished piece is like.

As to the attraction to a magnet... well... there's HEAPS! I didn't want to
get a magnet to close to my fragment, so I left it in the membrane box in
the plastic bag. The 1.23g was enough to hold the fragment, box and bag with
a 25mm neodymium magnet disc. I'd say the attraction is like an LL or
possibly somewhere between an LL to L chondrite.

But like Mike, I'm just looking forward to the preliminary classification
results!

Cheers,

Jeff


- Original Message -
From: Matson, Robert
To: Jeff Kuyken ; Meteorite List
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Moss Meteorite


Thanks, Jeff, for posting images and observations of your 1.23-gram
crusted fragment of the Moss (prov.) meteorite.  The interior color
still reminds me of a CK chondrite (more so than CO), but the smaller
chondrule size would seem to rule out CK.  Your link says, in part:

Chondrule size would be approximately =0.5mm leaning towards a
lower range of about 0.25mm-0.3mm.

I mentioned before on the list that Mike's description of the
chondrule size (and now, with more specificity, yours) would favor
CM over CO.  Mean chondrule size for CO is 0.15mm diameter, while
for CM it is twice this.  Do you (or you, Mike) believe that if you
counted chondrules in your specimen that there would be more in the
0.3mm bin than in the 0.15mm bin, or is it a toss up?

Jeff also wrote:

The meteorite also has a considerable attraction to a magnet.

And David Weir's image at http://meteoritestudies.com/MOSS.JPG
http://meteoritestudies.com/MOSS.JPG
shows numerous orange-colored stains that look very much like those
in a (fairly strongly magnetic) CK4 meteorite I have.  CKs are
more magnetic than CO, CM or LL chondrites (but less than L
chondrites).  For those that have a sample of Moss, can you
estimate where its magnetism falls compared to some other known
types?

Best,
Rob

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[meteorite-list] Re: Moss Meteorite - The uncut story...

2006-08-19 Thread Robert Verish
Hello Mike Mazur,

Wanted to personally thank you for your informative
posts.  

You were the first to post to the List, last month,
asking if anybody knew what were the laws related to
finding meteorites in Norway.  When you never got an
answer to your question, you went out and searched for
the answers. (Actually, there were some posts by
people who only guessed at what was the Law, but they
only succeeded in muddying the issue.)

Your decision to donate is an honorable one. 
Although, I doubt that it will change the minds or
opinions of museum directors, at least you can always
say that you did your part.

Now, I have one last question:

You already explained to the List how you and Bjorn
came into possession of your fragments from the Moss
fall:  

http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-August/186072.html

... As luck would have it, I received a tip which
actually turned out to be good! We investigated and
found that a reasonable sized part rock ***had been
recovered*** to the NW of the Johansen stone. Further
searching of the area turned up many more fragments
from a gram or two in size up to about 500g. 

So, my question is, who was the original finder, or
will this finder remain anonymous?

Again, congratulations on a job well-done,
Bob V.

-- Original Message

[meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite - The uncut story...
Michael Mazur mjmazur at gmail.com
Thu Aug 17 02:08:04 EDT 2006

http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-August/186491.html


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[meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Really Matteo, $200 gram is too much? $100 gram max?
Murchison has a total known weight of over 250
kilograms, I have no problem selling it for $100.00
per gram. As of now, there is barely 3 kilograms of
this material. Perhaps one kilogram total on the
market. Based on my sales in the last hour, $200 per
gram must be a fair price. Don't worry about it
Matteo, it seems you will not get any. It seems that
you are never happy, either the market is in ruin or
meteorites are overpriced. Which is it?
Michael Farmer

-Original Message-
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:03 AM
To: Eric Twelker; Michael Farmer; Meteorite Mailing
List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moss Carbonaceous
Chondrite sales.

every dealers sale the meteorites for the prices he
want. Is not a law a dealer have to respect a price of
another dealer. And sinceraly for me $200/gr. is to
much, $100/gr. max its a ok price...or I have to sale
my Siena piece for $8000/gr. only why its impossible
find a piece, and TKW its many under the Moss
meteorite?

Matteo

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[meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Adam, you embarrass yourself with such posts. We
sought, and received permission to search the Cement
factory, and they were excited for us when we found
it. Morten Bilet is Norwegian, and spoke to everyone,
who had seen him on TV and in the newspaper every day.

Please contain your usual poisonous emails since you
are too lazy to go on real hunts yourself. I know you
are pissed that you didn’t go, and you hate to see me
making money on sales. But as an IMCA board member, I
would expect more courtesy from a person like you. The
fact that you are a board member is one main reason
why I will not join the IMCA. Matt Morgan also posted
that it was illegal to remove meteorites from Norway
when I posted that we had found one, which is not true
of course. It seems that other dealers feel no need to
show professional courtesy to successful hunters
anymore. 
Are you going to now accuse Morten Bilet of being a
thief? 
You had better get your facts strait before you make
such accusations.
Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Matt Morgan

Mike:
I do not recall saying it was illegal after you had found one.
I was merely asking the list if anyone knew the hunting laws in Norway 
as I was strongly considering flying over.
Several other hunters told me to that it was illegal to remove ANY 
cultural property.

Since there was confusion over the laws, I abandoned the trip.
Mr. Mazur has done his homework and it appears to be OK...for now.
Matt

Michael Farmer wrote:


Adam, you embarrass yourself with such posts. We
sought, and received permission to search the Cement
factory, and they were excited for us when we found
it. Morten Bilet is Norwegian, and spoke to everyone,
who had seen him on TV and in the newspaper every day.

Please contain your usual poisonous emails since you
are too lazy to go on real hunts yourself. I know you
are pissed that you didn’t go, and you hate to see me
making money on sales. But as an IMCA board member, I
would expect more courtesy from a person like you. The
fact that you are a board member is one main reason
why I will not join the IMCA. Matt Morgan also posted
that it was illegal to remove meteorites from Norway
when I posted that we had found one, which is not true
of course. It seems that other dealers feel no need to
show professional courtesy to successful hunters
anymore. 
Are you going to now accuse Morten Bilet of being a
thief? 
You had better get your facts strait before you make

such accusations.
Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Matt Morgan
The first post was before you had anything in your posession, Mike. It 
was mererly a heads up to you.
Find me the second message that you say I posted after you found it, 
becasue I cannot in the archives.

Matt

Michael Farmer wrote:


Actually Matt, Here are the emails you wrote saying that it was illegal.
Looks pretty cut and dry to me.


Matt Morgan mmorgan at mhmeteorites.com 
Sun Jul 23 13:52:24 EDT 2006 

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+++Mike: 
You may be able to touch the pieces, but it is illegal to remove them 
from Norway. 
Which is a real bummer. Be careful. 
Matt




You also wrote after I posted that we found a piece that it was illegal to
remove from the country. 
That is not true.

Michael Farmer











Mike:
I do not recall saying it was illegal after you had found one.
I was merely asking the list if anyone knew the hunting laws in Norway 
as I was strongly considering flying over.
Several other hunters told me to that it was illegal to remove ANY 
cultural property.

Since there was confusion over the laws, I abandoned the trip.
Mr. Mazur has done his homework and it appears to be OK...for now.
Matt





 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Matt Morgan
If it is not illegal, then my sources were wrong. You and Mazur gathered 
more facts that I had access to.
Point was you mentioned my name and didn't quote how I said it. That 
pisses me off.
It had nothing to do with jealousy, I am not that kind of person; am 
quite happy with what I have.

Matt

Michael Farmer wrote:


No, I cant find it either, but you did not ask the
list, you SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL.
It is not, so you were wrong, flat out. 
Mike


--- Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


The first post was before you had anything in your
posession, Mike. It 
was mererly a heads up to you.

Find me the second message that you say I posted
after you found it, 
becasue I cannot in the archives.

Matt

Michael Farmer wrote:

   


Actually Matt, Here are the emails you wrote saying
 


that it was illegal.
   


Looks pretty cut and dry to me.


Matt Morgan mmorgan at mhmeteorites.com 
Sun Jul 23 13:52:24 EDT 2006 

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[ author ] 
   



   



+++Mike: 
You may be able to touch the pieces, but it is
 

illegal to remove them 
from Norway. 
   

Which is a real bummer. Be careful. 
Matt




You also wrote after I posted that we found a piece
 


that it was illegal to
   

remove from the country. 
That is not true.

Michael Farmer



 



   









Mike:
I do not recall saying it was illegal after you had
 


found one.
   


I was merely asking the list if anyone knew the
 

hunting laws in Norway 
   


as I was strongly considering flying over.
Several other hunters told me to that it was
 

illegal to remove ANY 
   


cultural property.
Since there was confusion over the laws, I
 


abandoned the trip.
   


Mr. Mazur has done his homework and it appears to
 


be OK...for now.
   


Matt







 

   





 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Farmer
It is just amazing though, that every time I go
somewhere, people come out of the woodwork making
statements and accusations. It smells of jealousy,
since you hardly ever post to the list, but jump so
soon to say what I am doing is illegal, which the
museum of Norway has said in it's own words, it is
not. It offends me, and pisses me off quite frankly,
since you stated it was illegal, just because your
sources told you it was. I suggest you find new
sources since they seem to have no idea what they are
talking about.
Michael Farmer

--- Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If it is not illegal, then my sources were wrong.
 You and Mazur gathered 
 more facts that I had access to.
 Point was you mentioned my name and didn't quote how
 I said it. That 
 pisses me off.
 It had nothing to do with jealousy, I am not that
 kind of person; am 
 quite happy with what I have.
 Matt
 
 Michael Farmer wrote:
 
 No, I cant find it either, but you did not ask the
 list, you SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL.
 It is not, so you were wrong, flat out. 
 Mike
 
 --- Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 The first post was before you had anything in your
 posession, Mike. It 
 was mererly a heads up to you.
 Find me the second message that you say I posted
 after you found it, 
 becasue I cannot in the archives.
 Matt
 
 Michael Farmer wrote:
 
 
 
 Actually Matt, Here are the emails you wrote
 saying
   
 
 that it was illegal.
 
 
 Looks pretty cut and dry to me.
 
 
 Matt Morgan mmorgan at mhmeteorites.com 
 Sun Jul 23 13:52:24 EDT 2006 
 
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 +++Mike: 
 You may be able to touch the pieces, but it is
   
 
 illegal to remove them 
 from Norway. 
 
 
 Which is a real bummer. Be careful. 
 Matt
 
 
 
 You also wrote after I posted that we found a
 piece
   
 
 that it was illegal to
 
 
 remove from the country. 
 That is not true.
 Michael Farmer
 
 
 
   
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mike:
 I do not recall saying it was illegal after you
 had
   
 
 found one.
 
 
 I was merely asking the list if anyone knew the
   
 
 hunting laws in Norway 
 
 
 as I was strongly considering flying over.
 Several other hunters told me to that it was
   
 
 illegal to remove ANY 
 
 
 cultural property.
 Since there was confusion over the laws, I
   
 
 abandoned the trip.
 
 
 Mr. Mazur has done his homework and it appears to
   
 
 be OK...for now.
 
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
fast or late I have a piece for the price I want, I am
just in contact with a person in Norvay have soem
pieces...Murchison have 250 kg. total mass? Where? Its
max 100 kg. and calculate for $200/gr. I have Cold
Bokkeveld. Many collectors I am in contact are of the
same my idea, $200/gr. its a exaggerated priceno
problem, I waith, the prices go down type many others
recent falls, example Oum Dreyga, $12/gr. first
pieces, now $2-3/gr. etc

Matteo

Really Matteo, $200 gram is too much? $100 gram max?
Murchison has a total known weight of over 250
kilograms, I have no problem selling it for $100.00
per gram. As of now, there is barely 3 kilograms of
this material. Perhaps one kilogram total on the
market. Based on my sales in the last hour, $200 per
gram must be a fair price. Don't worry about it
Matteo, it seems you will not get any. It seems that
you are never happy, either the market is in ruin or
meteorites are overpriced. Which is it?
Michael Farmer

-Original Message-
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:03 AM
To: Eric Twelker; Michael Farmer; Meteorite Mailing
List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moss Carbonaceous
Chondrite sales.

every dealers sale the meteorites for the prices he
want. Is not a law a dealer have to respect a price of
another dealer. And sinceraly for me $200/gr. is to
much, $100/gr. max its a ok price...or I have to sale
my Siena piece for $8000/gr. only why its impossible
find a piece, and TKW its many under the Moss
meteorite?

Matteo



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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite sales

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Actually Matt, Here are the emails you wrote saying that it was illegal.
Looks pretty cut and dry to me.


Matt Morgan mmorgan at mhmeteorites.com 
Sun Jul 23 13:52:24 EDT 2006 

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+++Mike: 
You may be able to touch the pieces, but it is illegal to remove them 
from Norway. 
Which is a real bummer. Be careful. 
Matt



You also wrote after I posted that we found a piece that it was illegal to
remove from the country. 
That is not true.
Michael Farmer











Mike:
I do not recall saying it was illegal after you had found one.
I was merely asking the list if anyone knew the hunting laws in Norway 
as I was strongly considering flying over.
Several other hunters told me to that it was illegal to remove ANY 
cultural property.
Since there was confusion over the laws, I abandoned the trip.
Mr. Mazur has done his homework and it appears to be OK...for now.
Matt



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[meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite

2006-08-12 Thread Bjorn Sorheim


Hello Robert,
Sorry for not answering yor email around the times I went to Moss.
I had no Internet acess there, and it was extremely hot and hectic
there too... :-)

You are right about the stone we first heard about on the 23rd
of July. Believe it or not that's my birthday! So it was a tremendous
day for me...!
This stone, (found prior to Morten/Farmer/Wards stone) was picked up by
the original finder in the middle of the week before this. Wedensday the
19th I think, but it was originally spotted one or two days before.

Some of what happened on that day:
On Sunday the 23rd I was searching around on my own, along the center
line as it seemed to appear at the time using the two first finds.

I parked my car where the 'centerline' met with the lake area about
1 km NW of the 752g Johansen stone. I zigzagged from this spot following
the roads in the dwelling area NW of the 752 stone. I talked to several
of Johansens neighbours, one living just 3 houses away knew nothing about
any meteorite at all. His son of about 12 said when he heard about it:' What -
a meteorite here!'.
One of his other neighbours new about the Martinsen
find but not of his neighbours much bigger fall! He had just arrived from
the holiday when I met him. I told them to carefully search their gardens,
and I did fully tell them what was the real value of a stone like this. Not all
seemed to believe what I was telling them...
When I had passed Johansen house and went through a narrow bush area
I met up with the water on the SE side. I went back again in a large circle 
around

the Johansen neighbourhood following the roads. I saw nothing of interest,
just some glassy factory slag that certainly would catch the locals attention
as a possible meteorite. I went down to the water in the SE for the second
time. I was a bit tired of this now.

Michael Mazur on this day had been searching in the area around Martinsens
cabin where he chanced upon Gren and Ralew from Germany and Marcins polish
team. They had found nothing either. Then he suddenly called me, he was now
just north of Johansens house, by the playing ground. So I went up to him, 
a bit

desolated, and he told me had to go back home for his job the next day.
Mazur as the smart guy he is, had succeded in getting an article in the Moss
newspaper with the title 'Meteorite-hunter on the spot'  ( he asked me to join
him on this, but I was to tired or to accustomed to use such a way for hunting
meteorites, so I turned down his offer - stupid of me).
Anyway, as I met Mazur with his car and he told me he had to leave for home
quite soon now, I said:'Well, at least you should a get a real interesting 
local
stone with you as a memory [as long as you didn't find a meteorite]!' So, 
off I went

into the thickest bush, where I half an hour before had spotted a good example
of a rhombic-porfyric (norw:'rombeporfyr') volcanic rock so typical of the 
permian

volcanism around the Oslofjord area.

When I came back to his car with his souvenir, IT had happened!
He had just then gotten a phone call because of the article in the 
newspaper that day.
He was talking to them. He said to me, 'This sounds interesting, we should 
check

this out!' I placed his souvenir on the floor of the car quickly
And, off we went.
We met the excited finders. A fairly flat stone wrapped in aluminum foil 
was shown

to us. We had our doubts at this point.
Off the cover went.  'Is this a .?'

Well, a split-second later it was clear to both of us!!
A fairly large stone with 2/3 of black crust, some spots non crusted and
with a middle-dark gray interior, was there right before our eyes.
It certainly was a beautiful example of the 'Moss'-fall, just the type
the whole bunch of meteorite-searchers hab been looking for most of
the week.

We were so lucky to later find more pieces that day where we learned the rock
had originally been found..
What a birthday celebration for a meteorite-hunter...!

So the list should be like this, I have ammended some information:

1. 35 gr - The first at Martinsens cabin, found friday
  14. july 1025 (as the fall time)
2. 750 gr - Johansens house, monday 17. july.
3. 1-2 kg  in all - 19th/23rd July. NW of Johansen stone
4. 800 gr - Who M. Bilet found together with Mike Farmer
   sunday 30 july. No location information.
5. 676 gr - Found on a company`s roof friday 4 august.

When I came back to the hotel that evening with my equipment and alone,
I spotted some guys at a table which I had not met in real life before...
One of them loking my way, I certainly thought it must be the one and
only Mike Farmer!
One guy with long curly hair, seemingly having a good time, had
his back towards me. It had to be Robert Haag.
The meteorite world had come to Norway...
A memorable birthday.

Bjørn Sørheim,
in Norway



 Hello Morton and List,

 This may be just a minor point but for purposes of
 clarification, I would like to suggest that your list
 of found stones be renumbered.  

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite

2006-08-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, All,


   This accounting would put the total mass in the
range of 3261 gm. to 4261 gm. and the guessing-game
winner would be Jim Strope on the low end and
Alex Seidel at the high end, with the dividing line
between them being at a total of 3705.71 gm.
   Still, that 1000 gram uncertainty is a little vague.
I guess we won't know for sure for a while. And who
knows, years down the line, what the official weight
will be when it's published in MetBul?
   After leading through the first turn, I was cleanly
passed on the back stretch... What was interesting
to me was that my guess was the result of a logical
methodology I cooked up to produce an estimate
of the total recoverable weight of a fall based on
strewnfield size and posted the figures to the List
(method explained in Norwegian Meteorite Weight
Guess, July 19, 2006). I was surprised that it
worked so well.
   At the last minute, I cut my estimate about in half
because I thought finding the stones in Norway
would be extra difficult, but the truth is: except for
the blank expanse of a desert or dry lake bed, most
places on Earth are equally difficult to search, just
for different reasons. If I'd stuck with 5500 gm.,
I might, 2-3 years later, have been right.
   I need to apply the methodology I created to all
the falls I can find data on, turn it into an universal
formula, and see how it predicts future falls. If I ever
do that, I will report it here. It would be a useful tool
and a big help to hunters, if it worked...
   Meanwhile, the project to produce a high quality
pseudo-champagne to celebrate my short-lived lead
in the Meteorite Sweepstakes was very successful,
although it required a lot of taste testing... I plan
to market the resulting concoction under the name
SHAMPAGNE. Like all fine non-wine wine products,
it's a varietal, and will be available in Regular and Diet!


Sterling K. Webb
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite




Hello Robert,
Sorry for not answering yor email around the times I went to Moss.
I had no Internet acess there, and it was extremely hot and hectic
there too... :-)

You are right about the stone we first heard about on the 23rd
of July. Believe it or not that's my birthday! So it was a tremendous
day for me...!
This stone, (found prior to Morten/Farmer/Wards stone) was picked up by
the original finder in the middle of the week before this. Wedensday the
19th I think, but it was originally spotted one or two days before.

Some of what happened on that day:
On Sunday the 23rd I was searching around on my own, along the center
line as it seemed to appear at the time using the two first finds.

I parked my car where the 'centerline' met with the lake area about
1 km NW of the 752g Johansen stone. I zigzagged from this spot following
the roads in the dwelling area NW of the 752 stone. I talked to several
of Johansens neighbours, one living just 3 houses away knew nothing about
any meteorite at all. His son of about 12 said when he heard about it:' 
What -

a meteorite here!'.
One of his other neighbours new about the Martinsen
find but not of his neighbours much bigger fall! He had just arrived from
the holiday when I met him. I told them to carefully search their gardens,
and I did fully tell them what was the real value of a stone like this. 
Not all

seemed to believe what I was telling them...
When I had passed Johansen house and went through a narrow bush area
I met up with the water on the SE side. I went back again in a large 
circle around

the Johansen neighbourhood following the roads. I saw nothing of interest,
just some glassy factory slag that certainly would catch the locals 
attention

as a possible meteorite. I went down to the water in the SE for the second
time. I was a bit tired of this now.

Michael Mazur on this day had been searching in the area around Martinsens
cabin where he chanced upon Gren and Ralew from Germany and Marcins polish
team. They had found nothing either. Then he suddenly called me, he was 
now
just north of Johansens house, by the playing ground. So I went up to him, 
a bit

desolated, and he told me had to go back home for his job the next day.
Mazur as the smart guy he is, had succeded in getting an article in the 
Moss
newspaper with the title 'Meteorite-hunter on the spot'  ( he asked me to 
join
him on this, but I was to tired or to accustomed to use such a way for 
hunting

meteorites, so I turned down his offer - stupid of me).
Anyway, as I met Mazur with his car and he told me he had to leave for 
home
quite soon now, I said:'Well, at least you should a get a real interesting 
local
stone with you as a memory [as long as you didn't find a meteorite]!' So, 
off I went
into the thickest bush, where I half an hour before had spotted

[meteorite-list] Re: Moss meteorite

2006-08-11 Thread Robert Verish
Hello Morton and List, 

This may be just a minor point but for purposes of
clarification, I would like to suggest that your list
of found stones be renumbered.  It has already become
a matter of public record that the 3rd stone was found
prior to 23 July.  See Mike Mazur's post:

http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2006-August/186072.html

You and I have talked at length about this 3rd stone
before you made your find of the 4th stone, and there
are already a number of email messages that have made
reference to the 23July find being the 3rd stone. 
Maintaining the chronology that you intended in your
listing of the Moss meteorite finds will minimize
confusion down the road.

Thanks for giving this some consideration, and
congratulations for being the first meteorite hunter
to find a whole stone of the Moss meteorite!
Bob V.


- Original Message --
[meteorite-list] Moss meteorite
Morten Bilet barb-o at online.no
Thu Aug 10 03:43:05 EDT 2006

Hi meteorite mailinglist.

I`m one of the finder of the Moss-meteorite (I found
together with Mike F) It will come a full report with
all details later from Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard and
me about this fall. But can here summarize little. So
far its been found five stones at total weight at
aprox 3,1 kg.

1. 35 gr - The first at Martinsens cabin, found friday
14. july 1025 (as the fall time)
2. 750 gr - Johansens house, monday 17. july.
3. 800 gr - Who I together with Mike Farmer found
sunday 30 july.
4. 6-800gr - [23July] Its minimal information about
this stone. Michael Mazur or Bjørn Sørheim have some
info.
5. 676 gr - Found on a company`s roof friday 4 august.

I have seen all the stones in my hand exept nr. 4 only
at pictures. Nr. 2 and 5 are whole pieces (very
minimal damage) They are also paired. Nr. 3 are in
many pieces. Nr. 4 are at least in two pieces (maybe
more) and the smallest nr. 1 has lost some few smaller
pieces.
Over a kilo is available at the marked so far, but not
nr. 1, 2 and 5.

Havent time for more details now, are in the
strewnfield every day (I live only 20 minutes from the
strewnfield) Full report later.

Best wishes

Morten Bilet


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