Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-15 Thread Scott Schulz
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Barry Hughes bhug...@sneezy.com wrote:
 I am in the crazy newcomer mode of buying.  My wife found a slice in a
 small box in the garbage yesterday, because she wanted the box for
 Christmas gifts.  I had thrown it away.

I am relieved to hear that there are others out there with crazy
newcomer disease.  I caught it about a week ago, and it has hit hard.

On the other hand, it is sad to see that even this hobby has it's
share of dishonorable folks.  Sad.  But I am glad to see that there
exists an organization like the IMCA.  I know that logo is the first
thing I look for once an auction/sale notice catches my eye.

SwS
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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-15 Thread al mitt

Hi Scott and all,

There are quite a few good dealers who are not IMCA members. In fact some of 
the larger, most successful dealers are not. So don't cut yourself off from 
those long time decent dealers. I'd be glad to compose a list for you. I 
belonged at first but decided not to renew when they became official with 
dues and so forth. I believe as a newer person collecting meteorites it 
would be a better choice for your protection.


Anne has encouraged me to join again and I probably should. Don't know if I 
could find two people to recommend me though :-)


Perhaps we should have a remaining group of dealers that have some sort of 
stamp of approval and self governing but then in the beginning that is how 
things worked. Since we now seem to get a new dealer of meteorites about 
every month or two, not everyone knows everyone else like in the good old 
days.


--AL Mitterling

Mitterling Meteorites

Mitterling.com


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw



On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Barry Hughes bhug...@sneezy.com wrote:

I am in the crazy newcomer mode of buying.  My wife found a slice in a
small box in the garbage yesterday, because she wanted the box for
Christmas gifts.  I had thrown it away.


I am relieved to hear that there are others out there with crazy
newcomer disease.  I caught it about a week ago, and it has hit hard.

On the other hand, it is sad to see that even this hobby has it's
share of dishonorable folks.  Sad.  But I am glad to see that there
exists an organization like the IMCA.  I know that logo is the first
thing I look for once an auction/sale notice catches my eye.

SwS 



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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-15 Thread Barry Hughes
Scott..you'll find IMCA members are about all honest sellers but also
some of my favorites are not IMCA members. It takes a while to know
the good guys.
i will gladly give you my list of sellers I buy from constantly..off
list, in case I leave someone out..:)
Barry

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Scott Schulz swsch...@astrum.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Barry Hughes bhug...@sneezy.com wrote:
 I am in the crazy newcomer mode of buying.  My wife found a slice in a
 small box in the garbage yesterday, because she wanted the box for
 Christmas gifts.  I had thrown it away.

 I am relieved to hear that there are others out there with crazy
 newcomer disease.  I caught it about a week ago, and it has hit hard.

 On the other hand, it is sad to see that even this hobby has it's
 share of dishonorable folks.  Sad.  But I am glad to see that there
 exists an organization like the IMCA.  I know that logo is the first
 thing I look for once an auction/sale notice catches my eye.

 SwS
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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-14 Thread al mitt

Hi Mike and all,

The Meteorite.com site, specifically at the Meteorite Times spot, has a lost 
and stolen page for people to view. I think it is always a good idea to 
announce it here and post it on the Meteorite.com site.


Here is the link: http://www.meteorite.com/missing_stolen.html
or you can email them here to let them know if something is missing:
i...@meteorite.com

I think keeping one site for missing and lost meteorites if more effective 
than say 20 sites where collectors or dealers might miss information.


--AL Mitterling

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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:45 PM
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Hi Anne,

Does the IMCA keep a centralized listing of stolen material for the
public to keep watch for?

Best regards,

MikeG



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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-14 Thread Steve Dunklee
It would be nice if everyone would photograph all of the material they 
purchase. Then if it went missing, it would help identify it. I believe 
everyone on this list is honorable and do not want to purchase lost, stolen , 
or illegal to export material. The wonderful thing about meteorites is the 
provenance. My slices if stolen and cut up can still be identified like a 
fingerprint. This makes collecting meteorite slices one of the most safe 
hobbies a person can do. Clear skys! Steve


  

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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-14 Thread Barry Hughes
I am in the crazy newcomer mode of buying.  My wife found a slice in a
small box in the garbage yesterday, because she wanted the box for
Christmas gifts.  I had thrown it away.
That was a wake up event  I live out beyond the crackheads and
such, so I don't have to worry about theft much.  My dogs wouldn't
allow it anyway.
I think I will sit down someday and photograph everything so I know
what I have, first of all, and secondly for insurance purposes in case
of fire ..etc.

I still can't get over someone stealing so personal a possession like
that.  I never will understand itand I am 'afraid' I couldn't
control myself in such a case.

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It would be nice if everyone would photograph all of the material they 
 purchase. Then if it went missing, it would help identify it. I believe 
 everyone on this list is honorable and do not want to purchase lost, stolen , 
 or illegal to export material. The wonderful thing about meteorites is the 
 provenance. My slices if stolen and cut up can still be identified like a 
 fingerprint. This makes collecting meteorite slices one of the most safe 
 hobbies a person can do. Clear skys! Steve




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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-14 Thread Steve Schoner
Like that big 444.5 gram slice of pallasite Glorieta Meteorite that I found and 
was at auction at Tucson in 2001... A slice out of the center of largest 
Glorieta pallasite ever found, 20.5 Kg.

One walked off with it, tucked in a folder.  

The slice was not mine as I parted with the huge pallasite before the buyer and 
close friend cut it...

Bothers me to this day that one would have the gall to steal that slice knowing 
the pain of its loss would bring to me and my friend...

If that person is reading this... And did the deed, and grace fills your heart, 
you can always send it back to me, no questions asked, and my forgiveness 
given...   And I think that my friend will agree and also forgive...

Steve Schoner
http://www.petroslides.com


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I am in the crazy newcomer mode of buying.  My wife found a slice in a
small box in the garbage yesterday, because she wanted the box for
Christmas gifts.  I had thrown it away.
That was a wake up event  I live out beyond the crackheads and
such, so I don't have to worry about theft much.  My dogs wouldn't
allow it anyway.
I think I will sit down someday and photograph everything so I know
what I have, first of all, and secondly for insurance purposes in case
of fire ..etc.

I still can't get over someone stealing so personal a possession like
that.  I never will understand itand I am 'afraid' I couldn't
control myself in such a case.

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It would be nice if everyone would photograph all of the material they 
 purchase. Then if it went missing, it would help identify it. I believe 
 everyone on this list is honorable and do not want to purchase lost, stolen , 
 or illegal to export material. The wonderful thing about meteorites is the 
 provenance. My slices if stolen and cut up can still be identified like a 
 fingerprint. This makes collecting meteorite slices one of the most safe 
 hobbies a person can do. Clear skys! Steve




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[meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody,
 
I have just received this email from Allen. Please read, and do let me know 
if you know anything.
 
PS: for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites, 
including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek,.. and many 
more.
 
 
Hello Anne,
Has anyone by the name Marylin or Robert Wright approached you to sell some 
un-named meteorites? They are in possession of about ten of mine that were 
stolen from me back in 2006. One is a Pultusk with a photocopy of the 
original lable. The others are slices. I have tried to get back on the 
meteorite 
central list so I can announce it to everyone, but I guess it takes a while 
for Art to get around to it. Can you ask around and see if anyone else you 
might know has been approached by them? If so let them know that they were 
stolen from me almost 5 years ago. I'm working with local authorities as we 
speak.
Allen.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/
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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Anne,

Thanks for the tip on this.  I personally have not been offered this
material, but I will keep my eye out for it and the thieves who have
it.

Does the IMCA keep a centralized listing of stolen material for the
public to keep watch for?

Best regards,

MikeG


Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone  Ironworks Meteorites
http://www.galactic-stone.com
http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone




On 8/13/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I have just received this email from Allen. Please read, and do let me know
 if you know anything.

 PS: for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites,
 including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek,.. and many
 more.


 Hello Anne,
 Has anyone by the name Marylin or Robert Wright approached you to sell some
 un-named meteorites? They are in possession of about ten of mine that were
 stolen from me back in 2006. One is a Pultusk with a photocopy of the
 original lable. The others are slices. I have tried to get back on the
 meteorite
 central list so I can announce it to everyone, but I guess it takes a while
 for Art to get around to it. Can you ask around and see if anyone else you
 might know has been approached by them? If so let them know that they were
 stolen from me almost 5 years ago. I'm working with local authorities as we
 speak.
 Allen.

 Anne M. Black
 http://www.impactika.com/
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/
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[meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread bernd . pauli
Anne wrote:

for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites, 
including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek, and many 
more.

.. for example: EADS (H4; S3; W3) found by Allen Shaw and his brother.

See: News in Meteorite! 1998, Vol. 4, No. 2,  p. 6

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread Impactika
Yes, Eads.
Thank you Bernd.
 
And also Hebron
And Benjamin
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2010 6:04:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
bernd.pa...@paulinet.de writes:
Anne wrote:

for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites, 
including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek, and many 
more.

.. for example: EADS (H4; S3; W3) found by Allen Shaw and his brother.

See: News in Meteorite! 1998, Vol. 4, No. 2,  p. 6

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread Barry Hughes
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Barry Hughes bhughes5...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is terrible.  How could you really know if they part them out.
 What people will do for a few buckshope their Karma catches up with 
 them!!!
 Barry

 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:39 PM,  impact...@aol.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I have just received this email from Allen. Please read, and do let me know
 if you know anything.

 PS: for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites,
 including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek,.. and many
 more.


 Hello Anne,
 Has anyone by the name Marylin or Robert Wright approached you to sell some
 un-named meteorites? They are in possession of about ten of mine that were
 stolen from me back in 2006. One is a Pultusk with a photocopy of the
 original lable. The others are slices. I have tried to get back on the 
 meteorite
 central list so I can announce it to everyone, but I guess it takes a while
 for Art to get around to it. Can you ask around and see if anyone else you
 might know has been approached by them? If so let them know that they were
 stolen from me almost 5 years ago. I'm working with local authorities as we
 speak.
 Allen.

 Anne M. Black
 http://www.impactika.com/
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/
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Re: [meteorite-list] STOLEN meteorites - from Allen Shaw

2010-08-13 Thread Barry Hughes
That is terrible.  How could you really know if they part them out.
What people will do for a few buckshope their Karma catches up with them!!!

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Barry Hughes bhughes5...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is terrible.  How could you really know if they part them out.
 What people will do for a few buckshope their Karma catches up with 
 them!!!
 Barry

 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:39 PM,  impact...@aol.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I have just received this email from Allen. Please read, and do let me know
 if you know anything.

 PS: for those of you who do not know Allen, he has found many meteorites,
 including: Independence, Delaware, St. Augustine, Hope Creek,.. and many
 more.


 Hello Anne,
 Has anyone by the name Marylin or Robert Wright approached you to sell some
 un-named meteorites? They are in possession of about ten of mine that were
 stolen from me back in 2006. One is a Pultusk with a photocopy of the
 original lable. The others are slices. I have tried to get back on the 
 meteorite
 central list so I can announce it to everyone, but I guess it takes a while
 for Art to get around to it. Can you ask around and see if anyone else you
 might know has been approached by them? If so let them know that they were
 stolen from me almost 5 years ago. I'm working with local authorities as we
 speak.
 Allen.

 Anne M. Black
 http://www.impactika.com/
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/
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