hat frost immediately formed on its surface when exposed to the air.”
Cheers,
Frank
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Sterling- I think you underestimate the effect of convective
Greetings,
Hands down, meteorites are cold when they land :-)
Apollo Astronauts reported the smell of gun powder from the moon dust.
Perhaps many bodies in the solar system have that smell. Falling
through the atmosphere should remove the regolith though, except where
it is cemented in from p
and that the *hand had kept* that smell for two days.
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Hello All,
Again forwarding something ... this time from Herbert Raab:
Zelimir Gabelica wrote:
> Are there data report
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Temperature of meteorites
I was under the impression that it's a myth that direct friction from O and
N molecules on the surface of a meteorite create the heat that causes
ablation.
I was under the impression that it's a myth that direct friction from O and
N molecules on the surface of a meteorite create the heat that causes
ablation. I thought that ram pressure in front of the meteorite was the
main factor in generating heat. The KE and PE would create a hot shock
laye
ot;
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Temperature of meteorites
Some points for the debate:
The rapid flight through the atmosphere
November 23, 2010 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Temperature of meteorites
Thanks Bernd:
This will help a lot!
My guess is that "warm" means warmer than the air temperature, but
probably not much warmer than body temperature since even 15 to 20
degrees
Centigrade (125 to 135 d
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Hi Mike:
I am still a fan of cold meteorites (yes I am biased), so is it poss
>>Could the black fusion crust formed at the time of ablation absorb the
sun's radiative heat during the dark flight fall? Or provide some form of
insulating benefit?<<
Maybe...but I'd think that the air it has to pass thru during this period
would be quite cold and its passing thru would
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Herr Professor and List,
Could the black fusion crust formed at the time of ablation absorb the
sun's radiative heat during the dark flight fall? Or provide some form of
23, 2010 9:13 AM
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>Hi Mike:
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>I am still a fan of cold meteorites (yes I am biased), so is it possible
>that a b
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> Greetings listees,
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> ahhh the hot/cold debate rears it's head again. I appreciate Bernd's list of
Hi,
Ursula Marvin has attributed many of the reports of hot stones with a
sulphurous smell to a "fire and brimstone" expectation on the part of the
observers, especially for the older historic falls. She notes that the
reports of hot stones still exist - primarily due to what observers think
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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:21 AM
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Hi Chris,
While I understand your argument, it is just hard to reconcile with
reports
such as this:
Mr. Gaffney
Chris
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Thanks Bernd:
This will help a lot!
My guess is that "warm" means
Greetings listees,
ahhh the hot/cold debate rears it's head again. I appreciate Bernd's
list of falls that seem to indicate warm more so than cold but there
are many factors to consider when compiling data. In Bernd's list, how
many of these warm specimens were observed by laymen?? Often there
Thanks Bernd.
From your data we have as score:
"warm": 14 versus "hot": 8
I believe this can be completed by browsing through other archives or
accounts of some recent witnessed falls ?
Are there data reporting "cold, frozen or alike" meteorites ?
Take care,
Zelimir
bernd.pa...@paulinet.
Thanks Bernd:
This will help a lot!
My guess is that "warm" means warmer than the air temperature, but
probably not much warmer than body temperature since even 15 to 20 degrees
Centigrade (125 to 135 degrees F) is considered hot.
Given that some have been said to be frosty, and one always hears
Good morning Listees, Listoids, Listers,
Here's a copy of something I posted many years ago (maybe 2004).
Cheers,
Bernd
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Meteorites - warm or hot to the touch?
01) The Binningup meteorite was recovered within a few minutes
of the fal
Are there ANY photos of any meteorite, taken *immediately* after it
fell? Within seconds, or even minutes?
I know some people have reported meteorites as warm, (e.g. Peekskill).
http://astro.wsu.edu/worthey/astro/html/im-meteor/strikes.html and
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/meteori
I don't think there is a general answer to that question. It depends heavily
on the size of the body after ablation. The larger it is, the longer it will
take to cool down as it falls for a few minutes through cold (around -40°C)
air. So a large body will be closer to the temperature it was at i
-Nachricht-
Subject: [meteorite-list] Temperature of meteorites
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:34:24 +0100
From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu
To: "Chris Peterson"
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Hi all:
I am in the middle of a workshop on asteroids and meteorites. At the end
of the firs
Hello Larry and List,
"What is the best estimate we have for the ambient temperature
of meteorites after they have passed through the atmosphere?"
Dhurmsala was said (!) to have had frost
on its surface when it was recovered.
Cheers,
Bernd
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Hi all:
I am in the middle of a workshop on asteroids and meteorites. At the end
of the first day, the teachers get to write down questions that they would
like answered. During the session, I had said that when they land,
meteorites are cold, not burning hot. The question that was asked was "how
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