[meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?
Hello Listers, This topic is very interesting and brings up a lot of good points on value and what we see deem as the most expensive meteorites per gram or in some cases per milligram. Let it be told, with any new discovery the value will be high. Good example, WI fall. The meteorite which wasn't alot to begin with did have a good high with sales on eBay but dropped really fast. I think it dropped lower than most new falls which is odd, but at any rate I guess what is missing with this fall and with a lot of falls is historic content. Personal, I hold value to meteorites that have a historic connection to meteoritics and the story behind them. I feel that those meteorites will retain value over the course of collecting meteorites, from there rich history to their rarity and the impact those falls had with meteoritics science, as appose to other meteorites that are banking on rarity just because its rare and nothing more. I have to say some people on the List made some good valid points about this topic. One point was about Lunar and Martain meteorites. Yes I would say they have had a good presence in the meteorite community and per gram have made a big impact when it comes to money to be made. But I think at the end of the day as more Lunar and Martain meteorites keep being discovered the value will keep dropping till we get a fall, now that will change everything, but till then we will have to wait. To my next point which it can be seen and told by some and AL brought up, that DAG 400 at one time sold for a pretty penny for the fact people in the meteorite community thought that would be the only Lunar meteorite. I am glad I didn't pay 20G's pre gram for that at the time, cause that 20Gs is 1G. But again value is put on meteorites for different reasons, some I find odd, but again, who am I to say what value should be placed on meteorites. I just collect what I feel is personable to me and the connection I can make with them and how that can relate back to meteoritical science. SA [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? al mitt almitt at kconline.com Tue Aug 10 22:05:48 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Next message: [meteorite-list] Flanged Buttons Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi Steve and all, Lafayette is truly a rare specimen. Only 30 grams total in private hands. I recently cut some of this material and still have small fragments that broke off from what I was cutting. After I sell what little I have left, it will be gone and nearly impossible to buy. Anne, If you pair up the lunar and martian meteorites, you will only find 60 plus specimens that are unique of the lunar material and 80 plus of the martian. These should sell well for you but in this speck collecting society after collectors get their type specimen that is all they need. Better to have a gram or two. Alex, Your exactly right on the lunars, over $35,000 to $40,000 for the first material out. Blaine sold both DAG 262 and 400. I bought in with him on some of that material and still have a pricy DAG 262 .1 th of a gram in my collection that is a $3,000 piece. However at that time we had no idea that other lunars would be found and we thought the material might be the only material we might ever be able to own. I now have a fairly cost effective 7 gram lunar in my collection. Besides the lack of type pieces as you pointed out (and was very true of that time) little information on meteorites, few books, and contact was done the old fashion way by mail for pieces, with occasional calls to dealers to purchase specimens. Collectors these days have it much more easier with the internet and ready access of material, books, and specimens. (getting off my soap box now) :-) --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Steve Schoner schoner at mybluelight.com To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? How about Lafayette? That is a rare one, impossible to obtain. I have a .87 gram piece: http://meteorite-identification.tripod.com/LAFAYETTE.htm Told it is worth about $10,000... Any takers? Steve Schoner Previous message: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Next message: [meteorite-list] Flanged Buttons Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite
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Greetings, Just a note that DAG 262 was the first readily available Lunar meteorite on the market followed by DAG 400. Calcalong Creek, Australia was first available meteorite for sale at a cost of $1,000,000 per gram to my understanding. I am not sure if any sold at that price. Rob, Martin posted a listing of lunars and Martians I believe. I was recalling from memory (a dangerous thing) so I could be a little off on those. I will say that at one time and this may have changed with more finding of Martian Meteorites, that about 6 impact spots on Mars was believed to account for all the Martian Material we have in our collections. Based off of Lipshultz's study at Purdue, Indiana. Not sure if a study has been done on impact sites on the Moon and how many there might be, but I do know that the lunar meteorite specimens represent a sampling from different spots (including the far side of the Moon) Apollo Lunar material seems to be unique, making all samples very important for science. We landed on relatively smooth surfaces for reasons of safety. Also out of the nearly a half ton of lunar material in human collections (most from Apollo Landings), 1/8 of the material is from lunar meteorites. Hope I haven't strayed too far off subject. Best! --AL Mitterling __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I think i paid around $200 a gram for my sample. Peter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Martin, As crazy as it sounds, you probably have some specimens that might fetch $1k for a 1mg speck on eBay, if the right bidding war erupts. I've seen pieces go for *insane* prices if the bidding gets spirited. You have some really rare and exceptional pieces that are largely-absent from most private collections. I bet you have a few that would fetch hundreds for a Bessey Speck, so $1000 might not be a major stretch of the imagination! LOL Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone On 8/10/10, Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com wrote: I've got an idea. Let's set the record now! I will offer a one milligram piece of any meteorite in my collection for $1000 or $1,000,000 per gram. If a million a gram is not the record, then I guess I'll have offer a one milligram piece for $10,000. Paypal accepted and I'll contact Guinness myself. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/member/how_to_become_a_record_breaker.aspx If it happens that I have to sell an entire gram in order to establish the record, then I will sell as many grams of any meteorite in my collection for $1,000,000 per gram if that's what it takes. We all have to make sacrifices when setting world records, right? -Martin On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Count, Melanie and List, Several months ago, I saw a small crumb of Honolulu sell for $400 on eBay. I don't recall how much it weighed, but it could not have been more than 50mg. Best regards, MikeG On 8/10/10, countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Don´t forget, folks, that once upon a time, which in fact is not way to long ago (only just a bit more than a decade or so right now) lunar or martian meteorites were simply unavailable on the private market. And when the first lunar, DaG 262, was available from the sawblade of the finder, the price even for saw dust was absolutely unpayable, and then when DaG 400 (some time after) appeared on the market, courtesy of Blaine Reed and through channels of a certain German gentleman, if I remember correctly, the first asking price was very high up somewhere in the 20-thousands-range dollars a gram. Listees, don´t forget - we live in golden times with those planetary meteorites and other rare stuff even today, while prices are clearly increasing now for top Lunars or Martians, and the other rare ones, as people get more interested in meteorites but supply, on the other hand, is limited. P.S.: I still remember, how difficult it was for a type collector to get even an LL4 in the old, pre-NWA-days, e.g. in the mid-Ninetees! Some of my colleagues, who have been in the hobby for an even longer time than me, may second what I said. The NWA rush has changed it all ever since, and I do not hesitate to add: at good terms for both the private collector and the scientist! Though there seem to be other lines of thought here and there now, fired by the media... Just a few quick comments from an old hound in the hobby. Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:25:16 -0400 Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com An: countde...@earthlink.net CC: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Hi Count, Melanie and List, Several months ago, I saw a small crumb of Honolulu sell for $400 on eBay. I don't recall how much it weighed, but it could not have been more than 50mg. Best regards, MikeG On 8/10/10, countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
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It does depend a lot on size. I remember a 4 milligram speck of NWA 011 selling for over $500.00 when only 58 milligrams was available. This is would extrapolate to a mere $125,000.00 gram. The only other meteorite I think to beat this price was Calcalong Creek which could at one time be had for much less and only in milligram sized specimens. It depends on how much is put on the market at any given time. I only managed to get around $10,000.00/gram for Calcalong creek after offering very small fragments for several weeks. It started out high and then decreased each week in a thin market until my supply was exhausted. Now, I cannot get any more now matter how hard I try. In larger sizes over a gram, lunar is and will always be king according to the Smithsonian Magazine, Mining for Meteorites. If all of ALH84001 or Chassigny were to be released at once, I doubt they could maintain record setting prices for very long. Most collectors would be satisfied with sub-gram pieces because the material is similar throughout meaning a larger piece would not provide much more variety of clasts than a small one.Lunaites, on the other hand, are highly variable, much more aesthetically pleasing and display a wider array of characteristics. People seem to relate more to the Moon, have admired it since ancient times and do not have to be into meteorites to desire a piece. You have heard the saying, I would giver here the Moon if I could. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:52:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well said, Alex. And not only rare classes such as planetaries, carbonaceous, achondrites etc. - exceptional fine individuals of common classes as well. Years ago I was lucky enough to buy a parade example of a shield oriented NWA stone, weathered, but perfectly shaped, 120 gm, for ca. 50 $. Today? Difficult to find anyway. And the price? Well ... Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel g...@gmx.net To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Don´t forget, folks, that once upon a time, which in fact is not way to long ago (only just a bit more than a decade or so right now) lunar or martian meteorites were simply unavailable on the private market. And when the first lunar, DaG 262, was available from the sawblade of the finder, the price even for saw dust was absolutely unpayable, and then when DaG 400 (some time after) appeared on the market, courtesy of Blaine Reed and through channels of a certain German gentleman, if I remember correctly, the first asking price was very high up somewhere in the 20-thousands-range dollars a gram. Listees, don´t forget - we live in golden times with those planetary meteorites and other rare stuff even today, while prices are clearly increasing now for top Lunars or Martians, and the other rare ones, as people get more interested in meteorites but supply, on the other hand, is limited. P.S.: I still remember, how difficult it was for a type collector to get even an LL4 in the old, pre-NWA-days, e.g. in the mid-Ninetees! Some of my colleagues, who have been in the hobby for an even longer time than me, may second what I said. The NWA rush has changed it all ever since, and I do not hesitate to add: at good terms for both the private collector and the scientist! Though there seem to be other lines of thought here and there now, fired by the media... Just a few quick comments from an old hound in the hobby. Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:25:16 -0400 Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com An: countde...@earthlink.net CC: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Hi Count, Melanie and List, Several months ago, I saw a small crumb of Honolulu sell for $400 on eBay. I don't recall how much it weighed, but it could not have been more than 50mg. Best regards, MikeG On 8/10/10, countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http
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List: I wonder if it's in the Guinness Book of World records or Ripley's Believe it or not. That would be neat. Maybe someone could submit it. Greg S. From: majbaerm...@web.de To: g...@gmx.net; meteoritem...@gmail.com; countde...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:13:58 +0200 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Well said, Alex. And not only rare classes such as planetaries, carbonaceous, achondrites etc. - exceptional fine individuals of common classes as well. Years ago I was lucky enough to buy a parade example of a shield oriented NWA stone, weathered, but perfectly shaped, 120 gm, for ca. 50 $. Today? Difficult to find anyway. And the price? Well ... Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel To: Galactic Stone Ironworks ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Don´t forget, folks, that once upon a time, which in fact is not way to long ago (only just a bit more than a decade or so right now) lunar or martian meteorites were simply unavailable on the private market. And when the first lunar, DaG 262, was available from the sawblade of the finder, the price even for saw dust was absolutely unpayable, and then when DaG 400 (some time after) appeared on the market, courtesy of Blaine Reed and through channels of a certain German gentleman, if I remember correctly, the first asking price was very high up somewhere in the 20-thousands-range dollars a gram. Listees, don´t forget - we live in golden times with those planetary meteorites and other rare stuff even today, while prices are clearly increasing now for top Lunars or Martians, and the other rare ones, as people get more interested in meteorites but supply, on the other hand, is limited. P.S.: I still remember, how difficult it was for a type collector to get even an LL4 in the old, pre-NWA-days, e.g. in the mid-Ninetees! Some of my colleagues, who have been in the hobby for an even longer time than me, may second what I said. The NWA rush has changed it all ever since, and I do not hesitate to add: at good terms for both the private collector and the scientist! Though there seem to be other lines of thought here and there now, fired by the media... Just a few quick comments from an old hound in the hobby. Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:25:16 -0400 Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks An: countde...@earthlink.net CC: Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Hi Count, Melanie and List, Several months ago, I saw a small crumb of Honolulu sell for $400 on eBay. I don't recall how much it weighed, but it could not have been more than 50mg. Best regards, MikeG On 8/10/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Melanie asked What is the most expensive per gram...? Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla, Shergotty and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000 a gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology, fusion crust, preparation and documented provenance. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Melanie Matthews Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can you imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a limited amount available to collectors?! @_@ --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks To: Melanie Matthews Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone. On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews wrote: Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Alex, today I'd say, regarding the costs - any Antarctic meteorite. It's simply very expensive to work in such an extreme and hostile environment. Seen the price paid: Calcalong - it had cost in the end more or less the meteoritic future of a whole continent :-( Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Alexander Seidel Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 21:01 An: Galactic Stone Ironworks; countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? Don´t forget, folks, that once upon a time, which in fact is not way to long ago (only just a bit more than a decade or so right now) lunar or martian meteorites were simply unavailable on the private market. And when the first lunar, DaG 262, was available from the sawblade of the finder, the price even for saw dust was absolutely unpayable, and then when DaG 400 (some time after) appeared on the market, courtesy of Blaine Reed and through channels of a certain German gentleman, if I remember correctly, the first asking price was very high up somewhere in the 20-thousands-range dollars a gram. Listees, don´t forget - we live in golden times with those planetary meteorites and other rare stuff even today, while prices are clearly increasing now for top Lunars or Martians, and the other rare ones, as people get more interested in meteorites but supply, on the other hand, is limited. P.S.: I still remember, how difficult it was for a type collector to get even an LL4 in the old, pre-NWA-days, e.g. in the mid-Ninetees! Some of my colleagues, who have been in the hobby for an even longer time than me, may second what I said. The NWA rush has changed it all ever since, and I do not hesitate to add: at good terms for both the private collector and the scientist! Though there seem to be other lines of thought here and there now, fired by the media... Just a few quick comments from an old hound in the hobby. Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello, I know we have discussed that before, but Adam I still have to disagree with you. Yes, Martians and Lunars are still high priced now, but not at all as high as they were, and it is still a novelty thing. Some day people will realize that they are not rare any more. Just look at the Met Bulletin: Lunar: Total 131, non-Antartica: 101 Martian: Total 92, non-Antartica: 70 And they don't sell, I still have a bunch of them, I have lowered the prices twice in the past, and I would gladly get rid of them if I got a reasonable offer. On the other hand, look at the truly rare ones: Aubres, Orgueil (fragment, not dust!), Lodran, Winona,. yes, historical pieces, and nearly impossible to get. And truly expensive. My two non-lunar cents. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 8/10/2010 1:18:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time, raremeteori...@yahoo.com writes: In larger sizes over a gram, lunar is and will always be king according to the Smithsonian Magazine, Mining for Meteorites. If all of ALH84001 or Chassigny were to be released at once, I doubt they could maintain record setting prices for very long. Most collectors would be satisfied with sub-gram pieces because the material is similar throughout meaning a larger piece would not provide much more variety of clasts than a small one.Lunaites, on the other hand, are highly variable, much more aesthetically pleasing and display a wider array of characteristics. People seem to relate more to the Moon, have admired it since ancient times and do not have to be into meteorites to desire a piece. You have heard the saying, I would giver here the Moon if I could. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Anne and List, We are talking about the most expensive meteorites here, not the rarest. I have bought and sold both Lodran and Winona and their prices are nowhere near comparable to those of Lunaites in the last few years, especially with the release of more Winonites and Lodranites from NWA. I was only able to muster $500.00/gram for a gram-plus piece of Winona and only realized slightly more for Lodran. The price of Chassigny has dropped like a rock since the discovery of NWA 2737. Although there are more Lunars by number than Martian, the total available weight of Martian meteorites is much greater. Do not get me wrong, I appreciate all meteorites. I am just stating that there is much more excitment over a discovery of a new Lunar meteorite in NWA than any other type, even a possible Earth to Earth meteorite. The Moroccans know that they will get more for a new Lunaite than any other type and they are the number one suppliers in the world right now. I am quoting what the article in Smithsonian Magazine said,The most desirable meteorite is a dislodged piece of the Moon. Desirability translates into price per gram. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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How about Lafayette? That is a rare one, impossible to obtain. I have a .87 gram piece: http://meteorite-identification.tripod.com/LAFAYETTE.htm Told it is worth about $10,000... Any takers? Steve Schoner http://www.petroslides.com IMCA 4470 Message: 16 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:26:46 EDT From: impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 3f166.d34334d.39931...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I know we have discussed that before, but Adam I still have to disagree with you. Yes, Martians and Lunars are still high priced now, but not at all as high as they were, and it is still a novelty thing. Some day people will realize that they are not rare any more. Just look at the Met Bulletin: Lunar: Total 131, non-Antartica: 101 Martian: Total 92, non-Antartica: 70 And they don't sell, I still have a bunch of them, I have lowered the prices twice in the past, and I would gladly get rid of them if I got a reasonable offer. On the other hand, look at the truly rare ones: Aubres, Orgueil (fragment, not dust!), Lodran, Winona,. yes, historical pieces, and nearly impossible to get. And truly expensive. My two non-lunar cents. Anne M. Black Free Credit Score A bad credit score is below 598. Click here to see yours for $0. Checking won't affect your score. By Experian#174 http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3341/4c61cb5fcd0a8bb79bst06duc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Steve and all, Lafayette is truly a rare specimen. Only 30 grams total in private hands. I recently cut some of this material and still have small fragments that broke off from what I was cutting. After I sell what little I have left, it will be gone and nearly impossible to buy. Anne, If you pair up the lunar and martian meteorites, you will only find 60 plus specimens that are unique of the lunar material and 80 plus of the martian. These should sell well for you but in this speck collecting society after collectors get their type specimen that is all they need. Better to have a gram or two. Alex, Your exactly right on the lunars, over $35,000 to $40,000 for the first material out. Blaine sold both DAG 262 and 400. I bought in with him on some of that material and still have a pricy DAG 262 .1 th of a gram in my collection that is a $3,000 piece. However at that time we had no idea that other lunars would be found and we thought the material might be the only material we might ever be able to own. I now have a fairly cost effective 7 gram lunar in my collection. Besides the lack of type pieces as you pointed out (and was very true of that time) little information on meteorites, few books, and contact was done the old fashion way by mail for pieces, with occasional calls to dealers to purchase specimens. Collectors these days have it much more easier with the internet and ready access of material, books, and specimens. (getting off my soap box now) :-) --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Steve Schoner scho...@mybluelight.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram? How about Lafayette? That is a rare one, impossible to obtain. I have a .87 gram piece: http://meteorite-identification.tripod.com/LAFAYETTE.htm Told it is worth about $10,000... Any takers? Steve Schoner __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?
Good evening/morning all What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar Calcalong Creek? After that which ones are next in line? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list