[meteorite-list] Using GIS for Meteorite Hunting and Study

2008-06-26 Thread McCartney Taylor
I, too, am a GIS person. Since Land ownership  GIS has just been
brought up, I have to take this one step farther and mention good  free
GIS packages.

Someone just brought up ESRI as a GIS progam, and I would like to
discourage people from using it.  ESRI gives you piecemeal crippled
software that you'll have to pay licenses for each piece you enable.
While there base 'hook' product is free, you can quickly spend $2500
getting the 'Basic GIS' which is just decent GIS (ArcGIS $1500 and
ArcView $950).  Then the extensions can cost $12,500 to bring you up to
a complete GIS system that gives you map webpublishing and db
interoperability.  All of that is about the same as what GRASS does, but
its free.

There are some excellent Open Source GIS programs currently available.
You can download these for free and have them running within the hour.
Quantum can quickly import your GPS data.  Both of these run under
Windows or Linux.

Quantum GIS --  Young, small, and runs fast on old machines. Think of
this as a 'dune buggy' of GIS.  Use this one first, if you're new to
GIS.
http://qgis.org/

GRASS GIS -- Mature, stable, powerful, but very complex.  Good for 3D
and 4D plotting.  Like if you wanted to plot a strewnfield thru a
mountainous area then do a time lapse flyby. Think of this as a diesel
MAC truck of GIS.
http://grass.itc.it/

There are a couple of other Open Source GIS packages, but they are
immature and not ready yet, IMHO.

On getting the basemap to use as your main layer, here's a starting
point.

http://www.gismonitor.com/data/index.php
http://seamless.usgs.gov/


Steps to take once you have your program and basemaps.
1. Load basemap into GIS
2. Load GPS finds into GIS.
3. Make sure you have all data layers on the same projection (like
NAD83)
4. Draw polygons of area searched!  Important to know where you've been.
5. Draw polygons of area you are ALLOWED to search.  Important to know
where you can't go.
6. Plot points of where meteorites where found.  High Confidence Data
gets a special symbol.
7. Plot point of historically found meteorites that you have low
confidence of where you think they were found.  You could even draw
small circle polygons to represent the 'fuzzy' find location.
8. Draw Line of best guess of upper limit of Main fall axis.
9. Draw line of best guess of lower limit of Main fall axis.  The space
in between is your best greatest statistical chance of finding more.

-mt
IMCA 2760

copyright 2008 - I reserve all rights to put some of this in my upcoming
book.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Using GIS for Meteorite Hunting and Study

2008-06-26 Thread Del Waterbury
One huge difference between Google Earth and all the other GIS software 
packages I've seen so far (except a few) is the fact that I don't have to fork 
out 5,000+ dollars to use it... Google Earth only costs me 20 bucks a year.

Don't get me wrong because I'd love to use the high end GIS software 
(especially since I use high end CAD software at work), but that's a very steep 
price to pay just to plot out coordinates of my finds. 

Del


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, McCartney Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: McCartney Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Using GIS for Meteorite Hunting and Study
 To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:56 PM
 I, too, am a GIS person. Since Land ownership  GIS has
 just been
 brought up, I have to take this one step farther and
 mention good  free
 GIS packages.
 
 Someone just brought up ESRI as a GIS progam, and I would
 like to
 discourage people from using it.  ESRI gives you piecemeal
 crippled
 software that you'll have to pay licenses for each
 piece you enable.
 While there base 'hook' product is free, you can
 quickly spend $2500
 getting the 'Basic GIS' which is just decent GIS
 (ArcGIS $1500 and
 ArcView $950).  Then the extensions can cost $12,500 to
 bring you up to
 a complete GIS system that gives you map webpublishing and
 db
 interoperability.  All of that is about the same as what
 GRASS does, but
 its free.
 
 There are some excellent Open Source GIS programs currently
 available.
 You can download these for free and have them running
 within the hour.
 Quantum can quickly import your GPS data.  Both of these
 run under
 Windows or Linux.
 
 Quantum GIS --  Young, small, and runs fast on old
 machines. Think of
 this as a 'dune buggy' of GIS.  Use this one first,
 if you're new to
 GIS.
 http://qgis.org/
 
 GRASS GIS -- Mature, stable, powerful, but very complex. 
 Good for 3D
 and 4D plotting.  Like if you wanted to plot a strewnfield
 thru a
 mountainous area then do a time lapse flyby. Think of this
 as a diesel
 MAC truck of GIS.
 http://grass.itc.it/
 
 There are a couple of other Open Source GIS packages, but
 they are
 immature and not ready yet, IMHO.
 
 On getting the basemap to use as your main layer,
 here's a starting
 point.
 
 http://www.gismonitor.com/data/index.php
 http://seamless.usgs.gov/
 
 
 Steps to take once you have your program and basemaps.
 1. Load basemap into GIS
 2. Load GPS finds into GIS.
 3. Make sure you have all data layers on the same
 projection (like
 NAD83)
 4. Draw polygons of area searched!  Important to know where
 you've been.
 5. Draw polygons of area you are ALLOWED to search. 
 Important to know
 where you can't go.
 6. Plot points of where meteorites where found.  High
 Confidence Data
 gets a special symbol.
 7. Plot point of historically found meteorites that you
 have low
 confidence of where you think they were found.  You could
 even draw
 small circle polygons to represent the 'fuzzy' find
 location.
 8. Draw Line of best guess of upper limit of Main fall
 axis.
 9. Draw line of best guess of lower limit of Main fall
 axis.  The space
 in between is your best greatest statistical chance of
 finding more.
 
 -mt
 IMCA 2760
 
 copyright 2008 - I reserve all rights to put some of this
 in my upcoming
 book.
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Using GIS for Meteorite Hunting and Study

2008-06-26 Thread Paul
McCartney Taylor wrote
 
I, too, am a GIS person. Since Land ownership  
GIS has just been brought up, I have to take this 
one step farther and mention good  free
GIS packages.
 
I do not bother with ESRI as a GIS program even though
where I work has a group license for it. It takes a long,
long 
time to learn how to work. Instead, I use Global Mapper, 
which only costs about 300.00 dollars and is very easy to 
use and does what I need it to do. Also, their support 
people, not only return email and other inquiries about 
problems, they typically do it the same day that you 
contact them. More information can be found at:

Global Mapper - http://www.globalmapper.com/
 
It does a spectacular job with Digital Elevation Models
(DEMs) 
especially those made from LIDAR data. Some examples of 
DEMs made from the LIDAR data can be seen in The 
Scotlandville, Denham Springs, and Baton Rouge Faults - A 
Map Guide for Real Estate Buyers, Sellers, and Developers
in 
the Greater Baton Rouge Area at 
 
http://www.lgs.lsu.edu/deploy/uploads/BRFaultsGuide.pdf
 
Yours,
 
Paul H.


  
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