Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?????? (Stuetz)
Yes he did, he tried also to find for Chladni the four of the five stones or irons of Miskolcz, which had fallen in 1559 and which were transported to the Vienna collection, but he was unable to locate them. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Grossman Gesendet: Freitag, 13. April 2012 05:43 An: Chladnis Heirs; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?????? (Stuetz) Andreas Xavier Stütz changed his views about meteoritic fairy tales and lightning before he died. See my article on the Tabor meteorite in the May 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine, which shows the change in his views based on the entries in the Catalogus Stützianus, Natural History Museum, Vienna. To my knowledge, my finding was previously unreported in the literature until it was published in Meteorite Magazine. Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts www.meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: "Chladnis Heirs" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?? (Stuetz) Hi Shawn, the paper by Andreas Xaver Stuetz, you're looking for, was published in Born's & Trebra's "Bergbaukunde", second volume, 1790. You have it here online: http://kuerzer.de/shawnstuetz Page 398 - 409. In fact he reports there from the fall of Eichstädt, mentions the Pallas-Iron and gives at length a report about the fall of Hraschina - with eyewitness observations, in translating the report about the fall by Wolfgang Kukulyewich, vicar of Agram. Here and there he gives some ironic remarks. Stuetz is classifying these reports as fairy tales, closing the article with a lengthy explanation, that these stones&irons were formed by lightning. Best! Martin & Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2012 10:25 An: Meteorite Central Betreff: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteorite falls title?? Hello Listers I am wondering if any of you history meteorite buffs by chance know the name of Chladni's book he wrote on 18 meteorites falls and if there might be an English pdf version floating around on the Internet or somewhere else? Also, I was trying to look for a copy of the paper titled "On Some Stones Allegedly Fallen from the Heaven" published in 1790 by Abbe Andreas Xavier Stutz which Chladni extensively quoted from when he was writing his book. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?????? (Stuetz)
Just another random piece of Chladniania: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1996M%26PS...31..545M&defaultprint=YES&filetype=.pdf "Ernst florens Friedrich Chladni (1756-1827) and the origins of modern meteorite research," by Ursula B. Marvin, from Meteoritics, Vol. 31, pages 545-588 (1996). Nice. Discusses sources and precursors of Chladni, like the thunderstones piece by Andreas Xavier Stütz. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "Chladnis Heirs" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?? (Stuetz) Hi Shawn, the paper by Andreas Xaver Stuetz, you're looking for, was published in Born's & Trebra's "Bergbaukunde", second volume, 1790. You have it here online: http://kuerzer.de/shawnstuetz Page 398 - 409. In fact he reports there from the fall of Eichstädt, mentions the Pallas-Iron and gives at length a report about the fall of Hraschina - with eyewitness observations, in translating the report about the fall by Wolfgang Kukulyewich, vicar of Agram. Here and there he gives some ironic remarks. Stuetz is classifying these reports as fairy tales, closing the article with a lengthy explanation, that these stones&irons were formed by lightning. Best! Martin & Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2012 10:25 An: Meteorite Central Betreff: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteorite falls title?? Hello Listers I am wondering if any of you history meteorite buffs by chance know the name of Chladni's book he wrote on 18 meteorites falls and if there might be an English pdf version floating around on the Internet or somewhere else? Also, I was trying to look for a copy of the paper titled "On Some Stones Allegedly Fallen from the Heaven" published in 1790 by Abbe Andreas Xavier Stutz which Chladni extensively quoted from when he was writing his book. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?????? (Stuetz)
Andreas Xavier Stütz changed his views about meteoritic fairy tales and lightning before he died. See my article on the Tabor meteorite in the May 2011 issue of Meteorite Magazine, which shows the change in his views based on the entries in the Catalogus Stützianus, Natural History Museum, Vienna. To my knowledge, my finding was previously unreported in the literature until it was published in Meteorite Magazine. Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts www.meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: "Chladnis Heirs" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?? (Stuetz) Hi Shawn, the paper by Andreas Xaver Stuetz, you're looking for, was published in Born's & Trebra's "Bergbaukunde", second volume, 1790. You have it here online: http://kuerzer.de/shawnstuetz Page 398 - 409. In fact he reports there from the fall of Eichstädt, mentions the Pallas-Iron and gives at length a report about the fall of Hraschina - with eyewitness observations, in translating the report about the fall by Wolfgang Kukulyewich, vicar of Agram. Here and there he gives some ironic remarks. Stuetz is classifying these reports as fairy tales, closing the article with a lengthy explanation, that these stones&irons were formed by lightning. Best! Martin & Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2012 10:25 An: Meteorite Central Betreff: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteorite falls title?? Hello Listers I am wondering if any of you history meteorite buffs by chance know the name of Chladni's book he wrote on 18 meteorites falls and if there might be an English pdf version floating around on the Internet or somewhere else? Also, I was trying to look for a copy of the paper titled "On Some Stones Allegedly Fallen from the Heaven" published in 1790 by Abbe Andreas Xavier Stutz which Chladni extensively quoted from when he was writing his book. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
