Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hi, It all may hit them in the pocket to some degree. I have bid on many things that I would not have found without tracking back through bidders or have been informed about after loosing an auction. I have never found that being contacted by an ebayer with a link to other similar pieces has been a problem...just a help!! Graham Nicholas Gessler wrote: Thanks Mike, I'll put Rob Chesnut on my schist list and look forward to getting him to talk about more than his bottom line. He provides the typical top-down PR line of BS. Nowhere does he say anything about diminishing the community of buyers and bidders who once actually talked to one another and encouraged each other to build a viable online marketplace. Let's see how long it takes Second Life to build an auction house... Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hello Nick, Moni and All, This new policy also prevents anyone (except Ebay) from tracking shill bidders. Years ago, when Ebay had a more open attitude and their clientele had access to more information, it was pretty easy to catch shill bidders red-handed. Now, unfortunately, that will be impossible to do with the names of bidders kept secret. The folks at Ebay won't have to deal with as many complaints from honest bidders (buyers) because they won't know when a dishonest seller is jacking up the bid. Something to think about. Best to all from snowy Arizona, John Gwilliam At 10:02 PM 1/21/2007, Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge wrote: Hi Nick and list, I agree. I like to see also who was the highest bidder and who bid. There are a couple of meteorites that I have and I could offer a person who lost the bid. In case of the same classification that is. If there is a way to write to them let me know too. With best regards, Moni From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:35:14 -0800 Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
I agree Nicholas. Now it's rare that my more sensitive bits would survive a bid $200 once my wife found out but I spend plenty on stuff lower priced than that. It's nice to know who you're up against. There's one name in particular who seems to like the same stuff I do but seems a little wealthier (or at least less nervous of what his wife would do). If that name comes up in the bid history I tend to steer clear. Imagine the castration potential if I ever got into the $200 bracket with this guy!!! I'm sure they have their reasons. We're probably not important enough to them. Rob McC --- Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
This pretty much sums it up: http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000154.html Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com A Destination For Space Related Artifacts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gessler Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:35 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hi, Nick, List It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Well, they do have that 3+ billion dollar a year head start... Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hi Nick and list, I agree. I like to see also who was the highest bidder and who bid. There are a couple of meteorites that I have and I could offer a person who lost the bid. In case of the same classification that is. If there is a way to write to them let me know too. With best regards, Moni From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:35:14 -0800 Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Thanks Mike, I'll put Rob Chesnut on my schist list and look forward to getting him to talk about more than his bottom line. He provides the typical top-down PR line of BS. Nowhere does he say anything about diminishing the community of buyers and bidders who once actually talked to one another and encouraged each other to build a viable online marketplace. Let's see how long it takes Second Life to build an auction house... Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
