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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Beautiful specimen Anne. And I miss buying meteorites from David. Such a gentleman. -Martin On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 1:36 AM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Sunday, Mar 31 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Murray > > Contributed by: Anne Black > > http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/31/2024 > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sunday, Mar 31 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Murray Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/31/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
s obviously that." You are also well
aware that I am not selling any of the obviously
Jikharra until my own classification is approved
because you were part of the discussion.
4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material
because you did not ask. For example the
metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as Ghadamis
that was not in Marcin's possession. Since I bought
and traded Ghadamis before the name HaH 346 was
approved, how do you think I should have handled the
situation differently?
5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from
the metbul "At least 2 metric tons of material
comprising thousands of individuals has been sold
under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco
and around the world." along with the appropriate
caveats due to its abundance- "Scientists are advised
to confirm the classification of any specimens they
obtain before publishing results under this name."
So again I do not feel you are making an apples to
apples comparison with your critique of my logic.
We all obviously respect your encyclopedic
understanding of meteorites so perhaps you can share
with us your framework for best practices in these
situations.
Best regards,
Jason
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas
wrote:
Hello Jason,
To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346
and NWA 869 specimens you have listed for sale on
your website. Those classifications were
submitted by other dealers; your stones are
unclassified individuals from DCAs with no
evidence of their find locations, etc.
On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen
listed as a "likely Jakharra 001 Pairing."
Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it
should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his
specimens "likely NWA 15758 pairings."
Regards,
Jason
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay
via Meteorite-list
wrote:
Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching
out to me. I appreciate your attention to
this matter. All is good.
Best regards to everyone,
Jason Whitcomb
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
point out when obvious fakes >> <https://forums.arrowheads.com/forum/general-discussion-gc5/what-did-i-find-gc11/683620-tiger-tail-meteorite/page2> >> surface. >> >> Mark's only been doing meteorite-related stuff for a few years and he has >> no related background. I'd expect some mishaps from anyone in those >> circumstances. I guess as long as Mark refunds people when it happens, >> like he did with John, it's not really unethical for Mark to berate anyone >> who points out that he's sold misrepresented material? I don't understand >> it, but it won't stop me. I have no qualms about publicly posting any >> other bad IDs I see, and insults he throws out, so that you all can see the >> kind of guy he is, too. >> >> I suppose it's not really that simple, because some misrepresented >> material is still going to get into circulation, which is a problem... >> Maybe some of the more experienced members in the Global Meteorite >> Association (GMA) can help Mark sort it out? I don't know. What's >> supposed to happen with NWA 14743 now? I'm seeing active listings of what >> looks to me like at least two different meteorites, sold listings for both >> going back at least a year...pieces for sale on websites like >> www.meteorites-for-sale.com, sold pieces there... It looks like a real >> headache. I wouldn't know where to begin. >> >> As Mendy said, caveat emptor. Always. IMCA, GMA, me, doesn't matter. >> >> Jason >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 7:50 PM Mark Lyon >> wrote: >> >>> Jason Humboldt, >>> >>> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this >>> for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the >>> messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went >>> in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza >>> (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was >>> just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking >>> dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, >>> he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. >>> Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months >>> travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and >>> he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. >>> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a >>> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with >>> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and >>> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't >>> read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors >>> want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are >>> not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they >>> are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these >>> names. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < >>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend >>>> on your reply. >>>> >>>> Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me >>>> as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best >>>> practices. Having autism I often struggle to understand people's >>>> intention. Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's >>>> actions. So one of my strategies is to try to think of the best possible >>>> intention that someone could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with >>>> your approach (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not >>>> sound I came to reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against >>>> Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face". A >>>> fierce sense of justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part >>>> of my condition so I was able to have sympathy with this realization. Now >>>> that you have responded I can more clearly see your intention. So here is >>>> my considered response. >>>> >>>> To the community: I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
28-55-n-7-36-/a/8096-72175.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515>. > After I let them know that the specimen was not Tissint, Heritage > amended the listing before the auction, and I'm glad to see that they > sorted it out ethically with the buyer afterwards. Heritage had the > stone analyzed, and its description shows that the stone is *not* an > olivine-phyric basalt, and is *not* Tissint. I've caught a number of > issues like that for major auction houses, but they almost never wind up > published and identifiable like that. And I’m still curious about who > tried to list that stone as Tissint… > > There are two problems in a large meteorite auction scheduled for next > month. I don't want to name the auction, but you can probably figure it > out. The specimens are 100% misidentified. *Can you spot them? * > > I don't know how many of my IDs have been analytically confirmed, but I > can say that many have been > <https://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ashcreekzunhua.png> > (also > NWA 11889, and others). I can't quote a correct/incorrect rate, because > it's not clear-cut; I've voiced concerns about material when I haven't been > certain that it was misrepresented -- like this Omolon. I don't think you > can really be right or wrong if you say "I think this looks off, does > anyone have any details on it?" Asking that should be fine in a community > like ours, where so much material gets both intentionally and > unintentionally mislabeled. If a specimen looks weird, or wrong, or > whatever, people should be allowed to question it, and that should be > okay. And it should also be okay to point out when obvious fakes > <https://forums.arrowheads.com/forum/general-discussion-gc5/what-did-i-find-gc11/683620-tiger-tail-meteorite/page2> > surface. > > Mark's only been doing meteorite-related stuff for a few years and he has > no related background. I'd expect some mishaps from anyone in those > circumstances. I guess as long as Mark refunds people when it happens, > like he did with John, it's not really unethical for Mark to berate anyone > who points out that he's sold misrepresented material? I don't understand > it, but it won't stop me. I have no qualms about publicly posting any > other bad IDs I see, and insults he throws out, so that you all can see the > kind of guy he is, too. > > I suppose it's not really that simple, because some misrepresented > material is still going to get into circulation, which is a problem... > Maybe some of the more experienced members in the Global Meteorite > Association (GMA) can help Mark sort it out? I don't know. What's > supposed to happen with NWA 14743 now? I'm seeing active listings of what > looks to me like at least two different meteorites, sold listings for both > going back at least a year...pieces for sale on websites like > www.meteorites-for-sale.com, sold pieces there... It looks like a real > headache. I wouldn't know where to begin. > > As Mendy said, caveat emptor. Always. IMCA, GMA, me, doesn't matter. > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 7:50 PM Mark Lyon > wrote: > >> Jason Humboldt, >> >> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this >> for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the >> messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went >> in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza >> (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was >> just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking >> dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, >> he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. >> Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months >> travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and >> he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. >> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a >> single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with >> common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and >> jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't >> read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors >> want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are >> not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they >> are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these >> names. >> >>
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Saturday, Mar 30 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chug Chug 003 Contributed by: Timur Kryachko http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/30/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Since the GMA <https://gmeta.org/> and I were mentioned at the end of the post below, I will make the following points. 1. Mark Lyon is a member in good standing of the Global Meteorite Association. 2. The GMA’s responsibility only begins when a formal complaint <https://gmeta.org/community/complaints> has been lodged against a member. These are to be interpreted as two independently statement of facts and nothing more. Regards to all, Mendy From: Meteorite-list On Behalf Of Jason Utas via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 2:03 PM To: Mark Lyon Cc: Meteorite-list ; humboldt bay jay Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 Hello Everyone, Sorry for the late reply - it's spring break, and the rocks don't find themselves. It's hard to disagree with common sense. Unfortunately, Mark has already made at least a few pretty bad common sense pairing mistakes that I'm pretty sure have put misrepresented material into circulation. Like this one <https://i.imgur.com/dqkqk05.jpg> , where Mark decided that an unclassified ~CV3 was paired with another dealer's published CR2. And this one <https://i.imgur.com/A0y83Tj.jpg> , where Mark decided that a CV3 was paired with what sure looks to me like an unpaired carbonaceous chondrite. More on these meteorites below. Mark mentioned some of our past conversations. I agree: they were pretty crazy, but I wouldn't say it's because of anything I said. I guess it's a good thing I saved them all, and can share them with you. Let's get right to it. In mid-January of 2023, I let John Humphreys know, in private, that some “Erg Chech 003" "CR2” slices he was offering on eBay looked to be swapped with a ~CV3. John's one of the few dealers I would trust to handle an issue like that honestly and quickly. Given the texture of the stone and its abundant CAIs, it couldn't have been a CR2. Not possible. A photo of the material speaks for itself <https://i.imgur.com/dqkqk05.jpg> : a real specimen of Erg Chech 003 is on the right. To his credit, John immediately pulled the slices he'd listed. I had no way of knowing it at the time, but Mark had sold John this unclassified meteorite as the published CR2 Erg Chech 003 <https://imgur.com/a/47qmQK7> . Unfortunately, by the time I'd messaged John about the problem, some amount of the ~CV3 had already been sold on by a few of the dealers who routinely distribute Mark's material, and you can still find some of those unclassified ~CV3 slices in circulation as CR2s / Erg Chech 003 <https://5dhealingcrystals.com/products/pallasite-meteorite-erg-chech> . Not great. Had I said nothing, there's no reason to think anyone else would have caught the misrepresented material, and the rest of that ~CV3 would have been sold as the CR2. Mark keeps telling people I'm often wrong, but...he admitted to the problem in private and refunded John <https://i.imgur.com/lUWiP9q.png> . Hm. I would add: I don't blame John Humphreys for what happened with the fake Erg Chech 003. It's not reasonable to expect everyone to be able to ID a carbonaceous chondrite by sight, especially based on just a few small slices. Someone classifying and selling new, unclassified meteorites has a greater burden of responsibility than someone who thinks they're buying a documented meteorite from a reputable dealer. Ultimately, Mark was the one who put those specimens into circulation labelled as something they weren't. It should have been safe for John to trust him. This "Erg Chech 003" ~CV3 is also a perfect example of Mark's ‘rules for thee but not for me.’ Mark argued in his email that Benzaki Mohamed's use of Jason Whitcomb's NWA number was different from Taza, Jikharra 001, etc., because Whitcomb's CK was "probably a single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different from huge finds." Well, let's look up Erg Chech 003 <https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=74840> . How many tonnes is it? It has a TKW of...just 1.1 kilograms. Oh. That's...really small. And it's owned by...two dealers who often collaborate with each other. Not Mark. So...not only did Mark use someone else's DCA number from a small find -- he screwed up the pairing when doing it and put misidentified material into circulation. ...I guess "common sense" rules only apply to everyone else. Not Mark Lyon. Let's turn the clock back to January 2023 for a moment. When I first notified John about the issue with the fake Erg Chech 003, I had no idea the material had even come from Mark. How could I? Erg Chech 003 wasn't even "his classification." I didn't know it yet, but John had forwarded my messages to Mark, letting him know I was the one who had raised the i
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Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months > travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and > he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. > You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a > single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with > common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and > jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't > read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors > want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are > not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they > are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these > names. > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >> I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on >> your reply. >> >> Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as >> a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. >> Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many >> times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of >> my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that >> someone could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach >> (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to >> reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed >> and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face". A fierce sense of >> justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition >> so I was able to have sympathy with this realization. Now that you have >> responded I can more clearly see your intention. So here is my considered >> response. >> >> To the community: I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that >> I can. If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am >> happy to look at any information and give my honest response. It would be >> unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise. I have not made it to where I >> am in life by acting in short term interests. Relationships are life long. >> >> To Benzaki Mohamed: I am sorry if I shamed you. I am often blunt and >> act quickly. Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you >> in private first. If you send me images or any supporting information I am >> happy to give you my honest opinion. You would then have my full support >> marketing the material as paired if it checks out. >> >> To Jason: I forgive you. I know what it is like to have conflict with >> the world. >> >> Best regards, >> Jason >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:50 PM Jason Utas >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Jason, >>> >>> As long as material is described accurately, I don't care what you do. >>> I only butted in here because it annoyed me to see you attacking a Moroccan >>> seller who is probably selling accurately paired material, while you’re >>> openly doing the same thing with other meteorites. Glass house + throwing >>> stones, not cool. >>> >>> I'm saying that it *should* be fine for you to buy and sell HaH 346 and >>> Jikharra 001 as those meteorites as long as you've accurately IDd them. >>> But not if you're going to tell other people they can't do the same thing. >>> That's the rub. >>> >>> Your points - >>> >>> 1 & 4) Why does it matter where you got your HaH 346? It didn't matter >>> to you where Benzaki got his NWA 15758. >>> >>> Your posts didn't address the origin of Benzaki Mohamed's CK in any >>> way, or whether or not his material is paired with NWA 15758. Based on >>> everything you've shared here, you don't know or care about whether or not >>> Benzaki's material is paired with yours. Your concern is "your NWA number" >>> and protecting that investment. I can empathize with that, but your #1 and >>> #4 bullet points don't agree with your actions: >>> >>> Did you ask Benzaki where his material had come from before you sent >>> that public complaint? No. Did you confirm that it came from a different >>> finder, the same place, or a different place? N
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Wednesday, Mar 27 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Noblesville Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/27/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Tuesday, Mar 26 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 13302 Contributed by: Ron Gill http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/26/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
She could be talking about me. I was being very disrespectful. On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 7:00 PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Hello Anne, > > In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but > had different views of > several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points > and the results. > > Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, > Brilliant!! > John Lutzon > > > On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Everybody, > > > > When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider > resolving it PRIVATELY? > > > > > > Anne Black > > IMPACTIKA.com > > impact...@aol.com > > > > > > On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via > Meteorite-list wrote: > > > > > > I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make > the following 3 statements + 1 opinion: > > 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a > nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please > contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was > part of the TKW of NWA 15758. > > 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The > Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: > https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed > could have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I > personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his > transparency. > > 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers > material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. > They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to > sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms > of the transaction, there is no injury to either party. > > > > My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot > know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business > with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have > ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. > > > > My regards to the community, > > > > Mendy > > > > From:Meteorite-list On > Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM > > To: humboldt bay jay > > Cc: Meteorite-list > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 > > > > Jason Humboldt, > > > > You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this > for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the > messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went > in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza > (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was > just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking > dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he > made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not > caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling > and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very > seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You > politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a > single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with > common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and > jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't > read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors want > to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are not > using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they are > selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these > names. > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend > on your reply. > > > > > > Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me > as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best > practices. Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. > Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst
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Monday, Mar 25 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canon City Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/25/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sunday, Mar 24 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 904 Contributed by: John Divelbiss http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/24/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Shannon, And? Don't tease us---who had more fun?--you or the kids? Which pallasite? Best, John > On 03/23/2024 10:32 PM EDT Hotmail wrote: > > > All, > > I have been a member for around bit over a year— ever since I bought my first > meteorite, an end chunk of Pallasite. I took that meteorite to my daughter’s > eight grade class and presented to the entire class, passing it around. It > was a really enjoyable experience for me. > > Anyway I just wanted to say that I learned a ton from that email chain over > the past few days!! > > Shannon > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 23, 2024, at 22:00, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list > > wrote: > > > > Hello Anne, > > > > In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had > > different views of > > several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and > > the results. > > > > Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, > > Brilliant!! > > John Lutzon > > > >> On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hey Everybody, > >> > >> When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider > >> resolving it PRIVATELY? > >> > >> > >> Anne Black > >> IMPACTIKA.com > >> impact...@aol.com > >> > >> > >> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via > >> Meteorite-list wrote: > >> > >> > >> I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the > >> following 3 statements + 1 opinion: > >> 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a > >> nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please > >> contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was > >> part of the TKW of NWA 15758. > >> 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The > >> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: > >> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could > >> have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I > >> personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his > >> transparency. > >> 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers > >> material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. > >> They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to > >> sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms > >> of the transaction, there is no injury to either party. > >> > >> My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know > >> every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with > >> sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill > >> intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. > >> > >> My regards to the community, > >> > >> Mendy > >> > >> From:Meteorite-list On > >> Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM > >> To: humboldt bay jay > >> Cc: Meteorite-list > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 > >> > >> Jason Humboldt, > >> > >> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for > >> years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages > >> he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my > >> display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa > >> 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just > >> using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin > >> Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made > >> damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not > >> caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months > >> travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and > >> he very seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. > >> You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a > >> single person classification with low tot
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Ha, ha, Mark, do not feel honored, she talks about me too. ;-) I'm sure, on other social meteorite platforms things are very busy, busy, and great for business. For some not in the groove, but here, it would be great for anyone to throw up anything meteorite and we'll see where the meteorites fall. I sometime reply in an unusual manner-- and then just blame it on Anne. JL > On 03/23/2024 10:09 PM EDT Mark Lyon wrote: > > > She could be talking about me. I was being very disrespectful. > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 7:00 PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Hello Anne, > > > > In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had > > different views of > > several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and > > the results. > > > > Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, > > Brilliant!! > > John Lutzon > > > > > On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Everybody, > > > > > > When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider > > resolving it PRIVATELY? > > > > > > > > > Anne Black > > > IMPACTIKA.com > > > impact...@aol.com > > > > > > > > > On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via > > Meteorite-list wrote: > > > > > > > > > I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make > > the following 3 statements + 1 opinion: > > > 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a > > nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please > > contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was > > part of the TKW of NWA 15758. > > > 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The > > Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: > > https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could > > have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I > > personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his > > transparency. > > > 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers > > material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. > > They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to > > sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms > > of the transaction, there is no injury to either party. > > > > > > My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot > > know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business > > with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have > > ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. > > > > > > My regards to the community, > > > > > > Mendy > > > > > > From:Meteorite-list On > > Behalf OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM > > > To: humboldt bay jay > > > Cc: Meteorite-list > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 > > > > > > Jason Humboldt, > > > > > > You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this > > for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the > > messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went > > in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza > > (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was > > just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking > > dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he > > made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not > > caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling > > and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very > > seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You > > politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a > > single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with > > common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and > > jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he compl
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All, I have been a member for around bit over a year— ever since I bought my first meteorite, an end chunk of Pallasite. I took that meteorite to my daughter’s eight grade class and presented to the entire class, passing it around. It was a really enjoyable experience for me. Anyway I just wanted to say that I learned a ton from that email chain over the past few days!! Shannon Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2024, at 22:00, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Hello Anne, > > In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had > different views of > several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and > the results. > > Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, > Brilliant!! > John Lutzon > >> On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> >> Hey Everybody, >> >> When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving >> it PRIVATELY? >> >> >> Anne Black >> IMPACTIKA.com >> impact...@aol.com >> >> >> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via >> Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >> I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the >> following 3 statements + 1 opinion: >> 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice >> carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” >> Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW >> of NWA 15758. >> 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The >> Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: >> https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could >> have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally >> did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency. >> 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material >> for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are >> under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As >> long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the >> transaction, there is no injury to either party. >> >> My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know >> every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with >> sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill >> intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. >> >> My regards to the community, >> >> Mendy >> >> From:Meteorite-list On Behalf >> OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM >> To: humboldt bay jay >> Cc: Meteorite-list >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 >> >> Jason Humboldt, >> >> You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for >> years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he >> sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display >> room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) >> because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using >> it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens >> (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging >> accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it >> affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting >> the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is. For the >> record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to >> use your classification, which was probably a single person classification >> with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is >> different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and >> whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I >> have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, >> and not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest >> but to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the >> community a disservice not to use these names. >> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >&g
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Hello Anne, In most cases, I Agree. In this case, both parties were respectful but had different views of several implications of information divulgence. I enjoyed their points and the results. Meteorite related aspects and meteorite discussions on a Meteorite-List, Brilliant!! John Lutzon > On 03/23/2024 2:19 PM EDT Anne Black via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > > Hey Everybody, > > When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving > it PRIVATELY? > > > Anne Black > IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via > Meteorite-list wrote: > > > I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the > following 3 statements + 1 opinion: > 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice > carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” > Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW > of NWA 15758. > 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The > Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: > https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could > have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally > did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency. > 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material > for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are > under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long > as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the > transaction, there is no injury to either party. > > My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know > every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with > sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill > intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. > > My regards to the community, > > Mendy > > From:Meteorite-list On Behalf > OfMark Lyon via Meteorite-list > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM > To: humboldt bay jay > Cc: Meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 > > Jason Humboldt, > > You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for > years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he > sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display > room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) > because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it > as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a > friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging > accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it > affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting > the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is. For the > record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to > use your classification, which was probably a single person classification > with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is > different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and > whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I > have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, and > not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest but > to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the community > a disservice not to use these names. > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on > > your reply. > > > > Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a > > hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. > > Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many times > > I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of my > > strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone > > could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and > > attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason > > that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and > > you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face"
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Hey Everybody, When you have a disagreement with somebody, did you ever consider resolving it PRIVATELY? Anne blackimpactika.comimpact...@aol.com On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:27:09 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list wrote: I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the following 3 statements + 1 opinion: - Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW of NWA 15758. - This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency. - On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the transaction, there is no injury to either party. My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. My regards to the community, Mendy From: Meteorite-list On Behalf Of Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM To: humboldt bay jay Cc: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 Jason Humboldt, You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is. For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these names. On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list wrote: I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on your reply. Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face". A fierce sense of justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition so I was able to have sympathy with this realization. Now that you have responded I can more clearly see your intention. So here is my considered response. To the community: I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I can. If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am happy to look at any information and give my honest response. It would be unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise. I have not made it to where I am in life by acting in short term interests. Relationships are life long. To Benzaki Mohamed: I am sorry if I shamed you. I am often blunt and act quickly. Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in private first. If y
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I’m not getting in the middle of these discussions. I will simply make the following 3 statements + 1 opinion: 1. Here is Mohamed’s exact statement: “Hi all members liste , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me.” Notice that he used the word “paired” making no claim it was part of the TKW of NWA 15758. 2. This discussion about “pairing” has been going on for forever. The Global Meteorite Association has a policy to guide transparency: https://gmeta.org/standards/descriptive-terms/pair-pairings. Mohamed could have use better terminology to clarify the type of pairing, but I personally did not see his description as problematic and applauded his transparency. 3. On a related note, when a north African (or any seller) offers material for sale that is unclassified, there is NO issue with doing so. They are under no obligation to get material classified before trying to sell. As long as both parties are transparent, and they agree to the terms of the transaction, there is no injury to either party. My opinion is that our community is sufficiently large that we cannot know every seller, much less their intent. Most of us do repeat business with sellers we trust, but that in no way means that all other sellers have ill intent. Like anything transaction in life – caveat emptor. My regards to the community, Mendy From: Meteorite-list On Behalf Of Mark Lyon via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:50 PM To: humboldt bay jay Cc: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15 Jason Humboldt, You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these names. On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > wrote: I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on your reply. Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that someone could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face". A fierce sense of justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition so I was able to have sympathy with this realization. Now that you have responded I can more clearly see your intention. So here is my considered response. To the community: I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I can. If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am happy to look at any information and give my honest response. It would be unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise. I have not made it to where I am in life by acting in short term interests. Relationships are life long. To Benzaki Mohamed: I am sorry if I shamed you. I am often blunt and act quickly. Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in private first. If you send me images or any supporting information I am happy to give you my honest opinion. You would then have my full support marketing the material as paired if it checks out. To Jason: I forgive y
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
Jason Humboldt, You just have to learn to tune out Jason utas. He has been doing this for years. He isnt going to change. You should have seen some of the messages he sent me before i blocked him. The first time I met him he went in my display room in tucson and started complaining about me selling taza (nwa 859) because it was his dad's classification. Then he claimed he was just using it as an example because he thought he overheard me attacking dustin Dickens (a friend of mine) for pairing meteorites. More recently, he made damaging accusations about omolon specimens actually being brahin. Not caring how it affected a Russian group who had just spent months travelling and collecting the materials. He always thinks he is right, and he very seldom is.For the record, you did not attack a Moroccan seller. You politely told him not to use your classification, which was probably a single person classification with low total known weight. Anyone with common sense can see that this is different from huge finds like hah346 and jikhara 001 and erg chech and whatever else he complained about. I didn't read his whole message because I have heard it all before. Collectors want to know they are getting these, and not another meteorite. People are not using these names to be dishonest but to accurately describe what they are selling. It would be doing the community a disservice not to use these names. On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:04 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > I appreciate the immense amount of time I anticipated you would spend on > your reply. > > Thinking extensively about this, I wondered why you tried to shame me as a > hypocrite, even when you have witness to me striving for best practices. > Having autism I often struggle to understand people's intention. Many > times I have gone wrong assuming the worst in people's actions. So one of > my strategies is to try to think of the best possible intention that > someone could have. I admit sometimes it is difficult with your approach > (and attempt to shame me) but since your critique was not sound I came to > reason that you saw an injustice that I perpetrated against Benzaki Mohamed > and you felt the need to "punch the bully in his face". A fierce sense of > justice that sometimes leads me to act foolish is also part of my condition > so I was able to have sympathy with this realization. Now that you have > responded I can more clearly see your intention. So here is my considered > response. > > To the community: I am happy to assist with meteoritics in any way that I > can. If you have material that you feel might be paired with mine I am > happy to look at any information and give my honest response. It would be > unethical and dirty feeling to do otherwise. I have not made it to where I > am in life by acting in short term interests. Relationships are life long. > > To Benzaki Mohamed: I am sorry if I shamed you. I am often blunt and act > quickly. Jason's best point is that I should have reached out to you in > private first. If you send me images or any supporting information I am > happy to give you my honest opinion. You would then have my full support > marketing the material as paired if it checks out. > > To Jason: I forgive you. I know what it is like to have conflict with the > world. > > Best regards, > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:50 PM Jason Utas wrote: > >> Hello Jason, >> >> As long as material is described accurately, I don't care what you do. I >> only butted in here because it annoyed me to see you attacking a Moroccan >> seller who is probably selling accurately paired material, while you’re >> openly doing the same thing with other meteorites. Glass house + throwing >> stones, not cool. >> >> I'm saying that it *should* be fine for you to buy and sell HaH 346 and >> Jikharra 001 as those meteorites as long as you've accurately IDd them. >> But not if you're going to tell other people they can't do the same thing. >> That's the rub. >> >> Your points - >> >> 1 & 4) Why does it matter where you got your HaH 346? It didn't matter >> to you where Benzaki got his NWA 15758. >> >> Your posts didn't address the origin of Benzaki Mohamed's CK in any >> way, or whether or not his material is paired with NWA 15758. Based on >> everything you've shared here, you don't know or care about whether or not >> Benzaki's material is paired with yours. Your concern is "your NWA number" >> and protecting that investment. I can empathize with that, but your #1 and >> #4 bullet points don't agree with your actions: >>
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Wednesday, Mar 20 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk Contributed by: Edwin Thompson http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/20/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Tuesday, Mar 19 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Djati-Pengilon Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/19/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
ce between multi ton finds that have ample >> documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity. Even then I >> agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to >> >> 3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in >> regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing. You stated >> that "The Jikharra’s obviously that." You are also well aware that I am >> not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is >> approved because you were part of the discussion. >> >> 4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did >> not ask. For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as >> Ghadamis that was not in Marcin's possession. Since I bought and traded >> Ghadamis before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should >> have handled the situation differently? >> >> 5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At >> least 2 metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has >> been sold under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around >> the world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- >> "Scientists >> are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain >> before publishing results under this name." So again I do not feel you >> are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic. >> >> We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so >> perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these >> situations. >> >> Best regards, >> Jason >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Jason, >>> To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens >>> you have listed for sale on your website. Those classifications were >>> submitted by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from >>> DCAs with no evidence of their find locations, etc. >>> On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely >>> Jakharra 001 Pairing." Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it >>> should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758 >>> pairings." >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < >>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me. I appreciate >>>> your attention to this matter. All is good. >>>> Best regards to everyone, >>>> Jason Whitcomb >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM < >>>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to >>>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >>>>>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia) >>>>>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 >>>>> From: >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain >>>>> >>>>> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346 >>>>> >>>>> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer >>>>> >
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
ink one is wrong, then the other should be, too. I don't have an issue with folks doing that as long as there's no doubt that the ID is correct, but I'm also not the one attacking someone else for doing it. Case in point: I agree that your large eucrite looks to be paired with Jikharra 001. But, if you're going to play that card, and post it as "likely paired" on your website, it should be fine for Benzaki to say the same thing about his CK / NWA 15758 if he believes it. Right? If not, you're holding Benzaki to a higher standard than yourself. By now, you've had some time to look into this. Did you ask for photos of Benzaki's CK? Did you figure out if his lot is from the same area as yours? From the same finder? Do they look like the same material? Do you think they're paired? What is the real TKW of NWA 15758? Is it just the ~1 kg in the Bulletin? How much more is out there? None? Just this one lot? More? You asked me what I would do. If it were my meteorite, I'd want to know. And I wouldn't want to hide that information from potential buyers. I don't think that would be honest. If it turned out that Benzaki was right about the pairing, you attacked him for correctly labeling a meteorite. I'd say you should probably apologize to him. Sorry this got so long. Jason On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 8:03 PM humboldt bay jay wrote: > I am sending this again as I realized I only replied to you and not the > list as well. This turns out good for me because it offers a chance to > better compose my thoughts. I was running errands when I sent the first > email. To begin again: > > Jason, > I see what you are saying, and it is a reasonable point but I disagree. > These are the reasons: > > 1. I can elaborate that "since you never contacted me" means I would have > been happy to provide assistance and the name if the vendor would have done > so with some images of supporting information such as sourcing from the > same finder. > > 2. There is a clear difference between multi ton finds that have ample > documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity. Even then I > agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to > > 3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in > regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing. You stated > that "The Jikharra’s obviously that." You are also well aware that I am > not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is > approved because you were part of the discussion. > > 4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did not > ask. For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as Ghadamis > that was not in Marcin's possession. Since I bought and traded Ghadamis > before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should have > handled the situation differently? > > 5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At least > 2 metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has been sold > under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around the > world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- "Scientists > are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain > before publishing results under this name." So again I do not feel you > are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic. > > We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so > perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these > situations. > > Best regards, > Jason > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas wrote: > >> Hello Jason, >> To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you >> have listed for sale on your website. Those classifications were submitted >> by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with >> no evidence of their find locations, etc. >> On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely >> Jakharra 001 Pairing." Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it >> should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758 >> pairings." >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me. I appreciate >>> your attention to this matter. All is good. >>> Best regards to everyone, >>> Jason Whitcomb >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM < >>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >>&
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Monday, Mar 18 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Clareton Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/18/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sunday, Mar 17 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Seymchan Contributed by: Matthias Baermann http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/17/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
I am sending this again as I realized I only replied to you and not the list as well. This turns out good for me because it offers a chance to better compose my thoughts. I was running errands when I sent the first email. To begin again: Jason, I see what you are saying, and it is a reasonable point but I disagree. These are the reasons: 1. I can elaborate that "since you never contacted me" means I would have been happy to provide assistance and the name if the vendor would have done so with some images of supporting information such as sourcing from the same finder. 2. There is a clear difference between multi ton finds that have ample documentation and a kilo find that has had little publicity. Even then I agree that best practices are to communicate leading me to 3. Point out that you were part of one of my conversations about this in regard to the likely Jikharra specimen you are referencing. You stated that "The Jikharra’s obviously that." You are also well aware that I am not selling any of the obviously Jikharra until my own classification is approved because you were part of the discussion. 4. You don't actually know where I sourced my material because you did not ask. For example the metbul mentioned many kilograms traded as Ghadamis that was not in Marcin's possession. Since I bought and traded Ghadamis before the name HaH 346 was approved, how do you think I should have handled the situation differently? 5. In regards to nwa 869 the following quote is from the metbul "At least 2 metric tons of material comprising thousands of individuals has been sold under the name NWA 869 in the market places of Morocco and around the world." along with the appropriate caveats due to its abundance- "Scientists are advised to confirm the classification of any specimens they obtain before publishing results under this name." So again I do not feel you are making an apples to apples comparison with your critique of my logic. We all obviously respect your encyclopedic understanding of meteorites so perhaps you can share with us your framework for best practices in these situations. Best regards, Jason On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:21 PM Jason Utas wrote: > Hello Jason, > To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you > have listed for sale on your website. Those classifications were submitted > by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with > no evidence of their find locations, etc. > On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely > Jakharra 001 Pairing." Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it > should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758 > pairings." > Regards, > Jason > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me. I appreciate >> your attention to this matter. All is good. >> Best regards to everyone, >> Jason Whitcomb >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM < >> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to >>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >>>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia) >>>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 >>> From: >>> To: >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain >>> >>> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346 >>> >>> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer >>> >>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024 >>> >>> >>> ------ >>>
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
Hello Jason, To be consistent, you should remove the HaH 346 and NWA 869 specimens you have listed for sale on your website. Those classifications were submitted by other dealers; your stones are unclassified individuals from DCAs with no evidence of their find locations, etc. On your "featured" page, you also have a specimen listed as a "likely Jakharra 001 Pairing." Similar issues aside, relying on that standard, it should be okay for Benzaki Mohamed to call his specimens "likely NWA 15758 pairings." Regards, Jason On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me. I appreciate > your attention to this matter. All is good. > Best regards to everyone, > Jason Whitcomb > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM < > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >>2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia) >>3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 >> From: >> To: >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346 >> >> Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer >> >> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024 >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:17:06 -0700 >> From: Ruben Garcia >> To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de >> Cc: Meteorite Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very sad news >> Message-ID: >> > jxhjti60uojwdgvdoreuf4jfjd7paim...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Bernd, >> >> I've know John for a very long time. This is very sad indeed. Thank you >> for >> posting this. >> >> Ruben Garcia >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 4:03?PM bernd.pauli--- via Meteorite-list < >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> > Dear List, >> > >> > It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-( >> > >> > John, rest in peace! >> > >> > Bernd >> > ______ >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240313/55acab68/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> >> -- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:53:43 -0700 >> From: humboldt bay jay >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 >> Message-ID: >> < >> caat9en4eebof8m_4p5anuoo9wo9+_qqv1e9-1mbjdnj6yvh...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Benzaki Mohamed, >> Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758 >> CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and >> resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as >> a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance. >> Jason >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29?PM < >> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to >> > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Saturday, Mar 16 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 13400 Contributed by: Scott McGregor http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/16/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 15
Thank you Benzaki Mohamed for swiftly reaching out to me. I appreciate your attention to this matter. All is good. Best regards to everyone, Jason Whitcomb On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 PM < meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >2. Re: Very sad news (Ruben Garcia) >3. Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 (humboldt bay jay) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 > From: > To: > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain > > Thursday, Mar 14 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: HAH 346 > > Contributed by: J?r?me de Creymer > > http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/14/2024 > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:17:06 -0700 > From: Ruben Garcia > To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de > Cc: Meteorite Mailing List > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very sad news > Message-ID: > jxhjti60uojwdgvdoreuf4jfjd7paim...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Bernd, > > I've know John for a very long time. This is very sad indeed. Thank you for > posting this. > > Ruben Garcia > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 4:03?PM bernd.pauli--- via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-( > > > > John, rest in peace! > > > > Bernd > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240313/55acab68/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:53:43 -0700 > From: humboldt bay jay > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14 > Message-ID: > < > caat9en4eebof8m_4p5anuoo9wo9+_qqv1e9-1mbjdnj6yvh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Benzaki Mohamed, > Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758 > CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and > resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as > a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance. > Jason > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29?PM < > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) > >2. Meteorite carbon (Benzaki Mohamed) > >3. Very sad news (bernd.pa...@paulinet.de) > >4. Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS > > 2014-01-08 Disputed (Paul) > > > > > > ------ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 > > From: > > To: >
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14
After reading this email, I would expect Mr. Mohamed to retract his previous email as it does not appear that his material has been authenticated by a proper researcher. Making claims about material that hasn't properly been identified is not something to be taken lightly and would be cause for concern to most collectors, self included. Rhett Bourland On Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 3:43 PM humboldt bay jay via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Benzaki Mohamed, > Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758 > CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and > resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as > a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance. > Jason > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29 PM < > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >> Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >>2. Meteorite carbon (Benzaki Mohamed) >>3. Very sad news (bernd.pa...@paulinet.de) >>4. Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS >> 2014-01-08 Disputed (Paul) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 >> From: >> To: >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> Wednesday, Mar 13 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Hamlet >> >> Contributed by: Anne Black >> >> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/13/2024 >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 22:16:15 + >> From: Benzaki Mohamed >> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite carbon >> Message-ID: >> < >> cagzkz4-7hufr2n7mzy4hapufexcssju66gn+v9ajuxjkt8t...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi all members liste , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired >> ,if >> anyone interested please contacte me. >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240311/7131a467/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> >> -- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:48:20 +0100 (CET) >> From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de >> To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" >> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Very sad news >> Message-ID: <825781290.98647.1710366500...@www.ud-mail.de> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear List, >> >> It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-( >> >> John, rest in peace! >> >> Bernd >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240313/b5109823/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> >> -- >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:16:00 -0500 >> From: Paul >> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific >> Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-08 Disputed >> Message-ID: <088038b3-ec22-4815-b8fc-d187f665a...@att.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> Recently, a preprint has been posted to the arXiv site that >> >> disputes proposal that Be,La,U-rich spherules recovered form >> >> Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-0 are from an extrasolar >> >> origin. Instead, they argued to be microtektites of terrestrial >> >> lateritic
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Friday, Mar 15 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 10019 Contributed by: Ron Gill http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/15/2024 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 261, Issue 14
Benzaki Mohamed, Since you have never reached out to me about my classification, Nwa 15758 CK6, I politely request that you do not use this name. I invested time and resources into having it analyzed and if you wish to sell your material as a named meteorite I suggest you do the same. Thank you in advance. Jason On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29 PM < meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Meteorite Picture of the Day (p...@tucsonmeteorites.com) >2. Meteorite carbon (Benzaki Mohamed) >3. Very sad news (bernd.pa...@paulinet.de) >4. Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS > 2014-01-08 Disputed (Paul) > > > ------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:35:54 -0700 > From: > To: > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain > > Wednesday, Mar 13 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Hamlet > > Contributed by: Anne Black > > http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=03/13/2024 > > > ------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 22:16:15 + > From: Benzaki Mohamed > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite carbon > Message-ID: > < > cagzkz4-7hufr2n7mzy4hapufexcssju66gn+v9ajuxjkt8t...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi all members liste , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if > anyone interested please contacte me. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240311/7131a467/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:48:20 +0100 (CET) > From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de > To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Very sad news > Message-ID: <825781290.98647.1710366500...@www.ud-mail.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear List, > > It is my sad duty to inform you that John Blennert has passed away :-( > > John, rest in peace! > > Bernd > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240313/b5109823/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:16:00 -0500 > From: Paul > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Claims of Extrasolar Spherules from Pacific > Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-08 Disputed > Message-ID: <088038b3-ec22-4815-b8fc-d187f665a...@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Recently, a preprint has been posted to the arXiv site that > > disputes proposal that Be,La,U-rich spherules recovered form > > Pacific Ocean Site CNEOS 2014-01-0 are from an extrasolar > > origin. Instead, they argued to be microtektites of terrestrial > > lateritic sandstone. > > The preprint is: > > Desch, S., 2024. Be, La, U-rich spherules as > > microtektites of terrestrial laterites: What goes \\ > > up must come down. arXiv preprint arXiv:2403.05161. > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.05161 > > https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2403/2403.05161.pdf > > The proposed extrasolar spherules are discussed in: > > Loeb, A., Adamson, T., Bergstrom, S., Cloete, R., > > Cohen, S., Conrad, K., Domine, L., Fu, H., Hoskinson, > > C., Hyung, E., Jacobsen, S., Kelly, M., Kohn, J., Lard, > > E., Lam, S., Laukien, F., Lem, J., McCallum, R., > > Millsap, R., Parendo, C., Petaev, M., Peddeti, C., > > Pugh, K., Samuha, S., Sasselov, D., Schlereth, M., > > Siler, J.J., Siraj, A., Smith, P.M., Tagle, R., Taylor, > > J., Weed, R., Wright, A., and Wynn, J. 2023., > > Discovery of Spherules of likely extrasolar composition > >
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Hi all members liste , I have a nice carbonaceous Nwa 15758 CK6 paired ,if anyone interested please contacte me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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