[meteorite-list] Thank you!

2009-08-26 Thread matt
Back in May I posted a request for 'giveaway' meteorites for a series of presentations I was giving to school students. I realised last night that in the rush to finish for the summer, writing about it for Meteorite magazine and the birth of our second child I never publicly thanked those that

[meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All, Doug was first with the correct answer: 1/sqrt(2) * speed of light or a little more than 70% of the speed of light. I figured it might come down to a race between Doug and Sterling. ;-) Here's an alternative way of looking at the problem which will give you the correct answer almost

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Ford
Reminds me of a question I was asked a while back - what's the average time dilation of all mass/particles in the universe, due to the expansion rate of the universe - i.e how much younger is the universe now than it 'should be' if it was static? (I had to think about that one!) I guess

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Since our inertial frame is HERE, the universe is expanding away from us and WE are standing still, just like in good ol' medieval cosmology. We are, by our own definition, a rest frame. Therefore, no motion = no dialation of time. Around these parts, one second is one second long, bub! Now, if

[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-08-26 Thread Dan Brumleve
Reminds me of a thought-experiment that I thought of... If there are an infinite number of Earths stacked on top of each other, how much gravity do you feel standing on top? Dan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:27:46 -0700, you wrote: Doug was first with the correct answer: 1/sqrt(2) * speed of light or a little more than 70% of the speed of light. I figured it might come down to a race between Doug and Sterling. ;-) Not to be petty, but I beat Doug by at least half an hour.

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Peterson
But since we are describing impossible fictional devices, there is no need to be constrained to those parameters. Along with the fictional steady-accelleration engine, you could toss in inertial dampera and allow for a much heavier accelleration at the start and end points, with a engines-off

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:55:35 -0600, you wrote: Engines capable of steady acceleration are not impossible or fictional. They are real and already in use. It is a mere g engineering problem to produce one that can operate long enough to reach another star. But the closer an object gets to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Peterson
To get a ship merely very close to the speed of light would take much less energy, say the total energy output of a few galactic clusters, give or take... Like I said, a mere engineering problem. Nothing in physics precludes a battery on your ship with that amount of energy content. But

[meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
Ok, so what's the speed of dark? Let's say you're in a car traveling at the speed of light, does anything happen if you turn on the headlights? A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking, Apologies to Steven Wright, Phil Whitmer

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:46:42 -0600, you wrote: Like I said, a mere engineering problem. Nothing in physics precludes a battery on your ship with that amount of energy content. Let's round up the acceleration from .7xg to 1g-- just to provide Earthlike artificial gravity. According to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:49:01 -0400, you wrote: Ok, so what's the speed of dark? The speed of dark is known to be greater than that of light. It must be, otherwise the dark wouldn’t be able to get out of the light’s way. http://freespace.virgin.net/ianstewart.joat/MATHDW/light.html

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Peterson
Well, that energy is on the same order at the mass-energy equivalence, so it doesn't seem unreasonable. You just need an efficient fusion generator. A matter-antimatter annihilator seems like another possibility. And what's wrong with Bussard ramjets, or some similar system that scoops up

[meteorite-list] Inclusion in Meteorite

2009-08-26 Thread Greg Stanley
List: I recently acquired an unclass NWA and after cutting it, I not only found a nice 5 mm chondrule but an odd orange brown inclusion. It almost looks like a fossil shell - triangular in shape; I know it's not. It is also outlined with black. Take a look.

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-08-26 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Dan, Rob, List, The key weasel-word in that puzzle is infinite. An infinite number of anything, no matter how small, even neutrons, has infinite mass and hence exerts infinite gravitational force. Your infinite stack of Earths will collapsr at the speed of light, having wrapped all

[meteorite-list] Inclusion in meteorite

2009-08-26 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Greg St. and List, What does it look like under a microscope? If you can see cleavages at 90° it's probably a (weathered) pyroxene (fragment), otherwise it might be a fragment of an oxidized olivine crystal. Fred Beroud's Açfer 336 (L3.8; S3; W3) has a few of these conspicuous orange

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread cdtucson
OMG, That's amazing. You are all welcome to hunt in Arizona anytime you'd like. We might be a bit friendlier here. . Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Meteorite hunters banished from Burke By Elizabeth Billips lizbill...@yahoo.com

Re: [meteorite-list] ENOUGH Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Blood
Please guys, This is not exactly hard core meteorite related. A few posts - ok - hell, a dozen posts, ok. But this On and on and on and on is enough already! Can those few of you obsessed with this take it off The list, please? ( could be wrong - if there are

[meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items

Re: [meteorite-list] ENOUGH Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Altmann
But Captain, it is! Remember how often you are asked, whether there are meteorites from other galaxies ! Skol Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Blood Gesendet:

Re: [meteorite-list] ENOUGH Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Hankey
i hear ya, and agree about being on topic, but there seems to be a good bit of interest in this topic, so i'd say let it roll...? you can tell from the subject what its related to, so you can easily delete the emails without reading them if you're not interested. its kind of fun / enjoyable for me

[meteorite-list] A-B Collection is up

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List: Over the years I have thoroughly enjoyed sites that have photos and descriptions of there collections online. In particular, Peter Marmet's site has been a real inspiration to 'do something different' with these specimens and share them with the world. I don't know anyone who doesn't

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-08-26 Thread Dan Brumleve
Sterling, The solution I had in mind is the Newtonian one (curiously the value is related to the probability of a random integer being divisible by a square). But I don't agree that an infinite number of anything is necessarily nonsensical... In this case (an infinite line of planets with one

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I tried to post an ad - and the handling, it is easy as a pie. Just some fields in a form, a text, photos no matter how small or large, press the button, ready. No 800,000 different options like in

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I'm still trying to get one of my ads to post properly. I keep getting error messages. But I agree that it looks promising. :) On 8/26/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:46:33 -0700, you wrote: I had never heard of Charlier universes, looks like an applicable framework, I will read more about it, thanks! Oh, that theory lies beween the two extremes, the Charlie universe and the Charliest universe. Sort of like the strong and weak

Re: [meteorite-list] ENOUGH

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Blood
Not once. Michael PS: Standard question: where do meteorites come from? (in said Misspoken grammar). On 8/26/09 2:27 PM, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: But Captain, it is! Remember how often you are asked, whether there are meteorites from other galaxies !

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Loeffler
Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
One more post on this-- I remembered that way back at the dawn of time (okay, the dawn of the 1990s) in my college English 101 class, I did a paper on fast interstellar travel. I haven't looked at it in years, as I avoid looking at most of my early writings for the fear of it being cringe-worthy

Re: [meteorite-list] ENOUGH Speed-of-light question

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi Mike H. and all, Even if some of the people on the list are interested, that doesn't mean that it should be allowed. If it's not on-topic, it is still breaking the list rule because it's not about meteorites, meteors, etc. The Alien and matrix discussions were also not on topic. If we allow

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
Please don't judge all Georgians by one crack-pot! Some of us are downright friendly and are just eat-up with Southern hospitality! Anita - Original Message From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:32:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Please don't judge all Georgians by one crack-pot! Just because you don't like people tresspassing on your land does not make you a crackpot. Judging from the details in that article (details that I hadn't seen before) the two hunters were

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
You must be joking! It's not like they were breaking into her house. I own 700+ acres in Idaho and if I took a shot at someone every time there were dirt bikers, snowmobilers, horse riders, hikers or hunters on my land, I would run out of ammo. Crossing someone's land that is not fenced

[meteorite-list] Newly Listed Auctions Started - AD

2009-08-26 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, It has a been a couple months since I loaded any eBay auctions, so with Back to School for the students and an End of Summer for many collectors, I loaded up about 34 nice 'Meteorite' items tonight by seller, NaturesVault. Most are started at just 99 cents, you bidders can

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
Hi Bob and List:    I agree. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to say this. I have had to BLOCK Eric's emails for weeks now. Enough is quite enough.. Eric has abused his privileges and this list. Play nice or I have nothing more to say to you. Anita - Original Message From:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:20:47 EDT, you wrote: You must be joking! It's not like they were breaking into her house. My home includes my land. If you are on my land, you are in my house. I own 700+ acres in Idaho and if I took a shot at someone every time there were dirt bikers,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
Thanks, Geoff. I'd like to bestow upon you the title of True Southern Gentleman. My people come from southern England (Plymouth) and I can recognize a true gentleman when I see one. I apologize, in my best southern accent, for temporarily being off-topic. Anita - Original Message

[meteorite-list] meteorites for sal (AD)

2009-08-26 Thread steve arnold
Hello list.I have a few meteorites forsale if interested.And please off list.There will also be free shipping as well anywhere in the cosmos.At least here. ___ 1.sikote-alin  76.5 grams w/2 holes   hupe collection

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Dave Gheesling
The vast majority are indeed that friendly, Anita, as you certainly know first-hand. But while we certainly do have a few crackpots in Georgia, it does not appear that this lady is one... Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] AZ meteorite find video

2009-08-26 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, There is a new video of the Meteorite Hunter, Mike Farmer, on YOuTube. The video can be watched at this website: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Congrats Mike on your professionally made video and documentation. And what a great find! Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
No, I'm not joking. Nut jobs are nut jobs, not matter where you live.  This woman truly had  some issues. Most of us in Georgia, do not act like that.  We'd just as soon invite you for tea as get riled up about a foot-bridge. And, regardless what you've heard about Deliverance,  we don't usally

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Notkin
Anita posted: Some of us are downright friendly and are just eat-up with Southern hospitality! Isn't that the truth! My brother used to live in Macon and I've had many a fine time in lovely Georgia. Cheers, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Meteorites USA
Hey Bob, Anita, List, Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;) Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems to be working. We'll see. I don't know about you, but I would

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
Hi Darren:   I think this woman was a nut-job b /c she over-reacted to trepassing. Makes me think she had a still or something else she was hiding!   Sure, I don't want people trespassing on my property, but to take it to court seems a little extreme to me. What I  would have done, had it been

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:20:47 EDT, you wrote: land, I would run out of ammo. Crossing someone's land that is not fenced and posted is not that big of a deal in a civilized culture. The point I was wanting to make, and I'll drop this issue-- is that we do NOT live in a civilized culture. We

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Anita Westlake
Hi Eric:   I wish I could accept your emails, but they still seem like spam to me. I appreciate what you're doing for the community; I really do. I just don't have time for it.   Keep on keeping on, Anita - Original Message From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Bob

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Anita, Thank you! That means a lot to me... I will keep on... You all can count on that. ;) Regards, Eric Anita Westlake wrote: Hi Eric: I wish I could accept your emails, but they still seem like spam to me. I appreciate what you're doing for the community; I really do. I just don't

Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update

2009-08-26 Thread Meteorites USA
Martin, Thanks! I couldn't ask for a better review. I appreciate it. 3 ads? That's wonderful... Now, go post more ads... ;) More ads mean more buyers! Regards, Eric Martin Altmann wrote: Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I

[meteorite-list] Meteorite News Site repaired

2009-08-26 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Thank you to those that emailed me to tell the Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News website was not loading properly. The problem has been fixed and it takes less than a second now for the page to load. AZ Meteorite Video: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Dirk

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Bill Mason
Dear Fellow members, Today in the United States we have a group of people who are so insecure and so stupid that they do not have the ability to think beyond their own have little worldme,me,me is the limit of their scope of existence. Consider the source, when being Accused - you'd find

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

2009-08-26 Thread Mr EMan
Bill the woman was elderly and just a few weeks before had been broken in on, robbed and possibly beaten as I recall from early accounts. Had this the trespassing happened before this robbery She would have likely offered them ice tea. I agree it was a vote getting ploy for the judge and the

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men the Series

2009-08-26 Thread Notkin
Dear Listees: As a few of your already know, from our Twitter announcements and Facebook page, Steve Arnold and I recently received exciting news from our network. The Meteorite Men pilot was a success, received very good ratings and feedback (thank you viewers!) and Science Channel has

[meteorite-list] fireball video from space

2009-08-26 Thread Phil Whitmer
Mike, I have no idea what the heck that thing is! It's weird, because I was just sitting here watching the NASA UFO videos on YouTube when you posted this. (Along with some vids of Carl Sagan rhapsodizing wistfully about how many advanced civilizations there are in the Milky Way.) Phil

[meteorite-list] fireball video from space

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Hankey
A friend sent me this video of a fireball video taken from the space shuttle or the ISS http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/baltimore-pa-meteor/bolide-meteor-video-from-space/ I'm not sure if this has been sent out to the list before. What do you think? Is it real? It was posted on a UFO account /