Re: [meteorite-list] 1099s coming?

2011-01-15 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Richard, so you'll get a positive input from me: World will keep spinning around. Say I, from a country with a duestax yoke more than twice as heavy as in USA and with a Kafkaesque bureaucracy, the country with - lonely world record - with more than 70,000 single and different tax

Re: [meteorite-list] 1099s coming?

2011-01-15 Thread batkol
i believe the 1099 rule included in the new health care bill is already in the process of being revised. Don't Panic Douglas Adams A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy enjoy the weekend. stay warm and take care susan - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - January 15, 2011

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_15_2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - January 15, 2011

2011-01-15 Thread Greg Hupe
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[meteorite-list] New Paper About Kamil Crater, Egypt

2011-01-15 Thread Paul H.
A paper about the rayed Kamil Crater in Egypt has been published online in advanced of its publication in “Geology.” It is: Folco, L., M. Di Martino, A. El Barkooky, M. D'Orazio, A. Lethy, S. Urbini, I. Nicolosi, M. Hafez, C. Cordier, M. van Ginneken, A. Zeoli, A. M. Radwan, S. El Khrepy, M.

[meteorite-list] Paleogene Dinosaurs ???

2011-01-15 Thread Paul H.
A new paper about the direct dating of dinosaur bones, has been published online in advanced of its publication in “Geology.” It is: Fassett, J. E., L. M. Heaman, and A. Simonetti, 2011, Direct U-Pb dating of Cretaceous and Paleocene dinosaur bones, San Juan Basin, New Mexico. Geology, first

[meteorite-list] back issues of met magazine

2011-01-15 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.Anyone have any back issues of met magazine they'd like to sell? Please let me know offlist and have a great day.  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list

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Re: [meteorite-list] Paleogene Dinosaurs ???

2011-01-15 Thread mafer
guess that shoots down a lot of ideas about that K-T boundary event that killed dinosaurs with fire storms and blast waves. On 2:34:16 pm 01/15/11 Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote: A new paper about the direct dating of dinosaur bones, has been published online in advanced of its

Re: [meteorite-list] 1099s coming?

2011-01-15 Thread Yinan Wang
The new 1099 rules are not set to start until 2012 and before that the IRS still needs to issue its proposed regulations and hold public hearings. http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/ So I agree with Susan; don't panic until we know what the rules are.

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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: New Paper About Kamil Crater, Egypt

2011-01-15 Thread cdtucson
-- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Paul, Thank you for this. I can't wait to read the full article. This confirmation of the age is interesting. Back on July 13, 2010 under the subject of Gebel Kamil Iron is official now I suspected that this fall was known to the Oxus Civilization.

Re: [meteorite-list] Paleogene Dinosaurs ???

2011-01-15 Thread Ted Bunch
Not really. Little islands of dinosaur survival are known to have existed for short geological times after the K/T impact. The impact winter that followed was not an instantaneous killer. Ted On 1/15/11 10:12 AM, ma...@imagineopals.com ma...@imagineopals.com wrote: guess that shoots down a

[meteorite-list] Radar help

2011-01-15 Thread R. Chastain
Hi, Is there a website to help understand how to interpret radar data for tracking meteorites? I've been reading the tutorials on the NOAA/NCDC toolkit site but it's geared more toward using the program and not actual interpretation of the data. It's more of an academic exercise at this point

[meteorite-list] Radar of Mississippi Fall?

2011-01-15 Thread Jake Schaefer
I have found a few radar signatures that could possibly be from the event over Mississippi on the 11th. You can see my analysis here: http://3dradar.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/southern-ms-fall-1122011-at-0250-utc/ -Jake __ Visit the Archives at

[meteorite-list] New Mexico Craters

2011-01-15 Thread Dennis Cox
Hi Abe, and List, For those interested, the website Abe mentioned is mine. It's at: http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/ I would be extremely interested in what you find at the crater sties in southeast New Mexico, and West Texas. Their numbers may seem to be extreme. But only from a 19th

[meteorite-list] New updates now up!

2011-01-15 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. Just a reminder my monthly updates for Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html have been put up on my website. The A Flash from the Past Photo of the Month features the Tunguska Event of 1908. My slash (/) (\) photos of the month feature the

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, The term meteor refers to the light phenomenon as an object from space enters the Earth's atmosphere. What is the proper term for the object itself? A meteoroid is an object in space. Is it still called a meteoroid when it enters the Earth's atmosphere? -Walter

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Darryl Pitt
Fun question! In the office working on this Saturday evening and thankful for this distraction ;-) I'm going to go with what you've surmised: meteoroid until striking Earth's surface. all best / d On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, The term meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Walter and all, This may be the acceptable nomenclature METEOR (mt-r) 1. A bright trail or streak of light that appears in the night sky when a meteoroid enters the Earth's atmosphere. The friction with the air causes the rock to glow with heat. Also called shooting star. 2. A rocky

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hey Darryl, Working! On Saturday evening? In the words of Ebenezer Scrooge, Bah, humbug. My wife and daughter are out buying some new shoes and when asked if I wanted to come along, I politely replied, no. I pretended to begin ironing clothes but the moment they left I took out my

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Count, Yes, many writers refer to the light phenomenon and the object itself as meteor but some make a distinction between the two. That definition does both, seemingly in the same breath! Also, does light originate from the glowing rock itself or the plasma (ionized gas) surrounding

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread R. Chastain
Thanks for the definition. Let's see if I have this straight Meteoroid = in space Meteor = The act of the previous meteoroid entering the atmosphere and producing light. Meteorite = Meteoroid, now meteor, that landed and becomes a meteorite. Let me muddy the waters a bit more:-) Where

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hey Rod, Where does the term Bolide figure in as compared to a fireball? Yea, that one has always puzzled me as well. -Walter - Original Message - From: R. Chastain suen...@yahoo.com To: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Count Deiro

Re: [meteorite-list] Radar of Mississippi Fall?

2011-01-15 Thread R. Chastain
Nice blog/site. I book marked it too:-) Thanks, Rod --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Jake Schaefer jakeschaefe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jake Schaefer jakeschaefe...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Radar of Mississippi Fall? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Most researchers I know consider the body to be a meteoroid while it is in its meteor phase. The term meteoroid is used to specifically identify the body, and distinguish it from the meteor effect. It is also common, and IMO correct, to talk of a meteorite before it hits the ground. Once the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread R N Hartman
Meteor, meteorite, and meteoioid: In response to the American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company, which is reported here to have stated that the object itself may be termed a meteor while in flight through the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many different things. Fireball unambiguously means a meteor of a specific apparent brightness. Bolide is simply confusing. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread GeoZay
Bolide is a term that it's good to avoid. It doesn't mean anything... or rather, it means too many different things. Fireball unambiguously means a meteor of a specific apparent brightness. Bolide is simply confusing. I usually think of a fireball as a meteor with a magnitude brighter

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Hankey
See I always thought bolide was a a large fireball that fragmented. Is it safe to say only bolides become meteorites? So the scale of bigness: meteor, fireball, bolide, super bolide. Super bolides are the ones shaking homes and =-24 magnitude. Great distraction after a terrible defeat by the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Ron, Yes, that's it. A distinction between the light and the object itself. So, back to my original question. The object itself is still referred to as a meteoroid while it is traveling in the Earth's atmosphere. Your anecdote regarding Dr. Leonard reminded me of the Dorothy Norton

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
No. In fact, there is good evidence to suggest that the great majority of meteorites are produced by rather small meteors, which not only don't fragment, but aren't even fireballs. The sense that meteorites are the product of big, spectacular, fragmenting fireballs is produced because those

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Barrett
The definitive source WIKIPEDIA!! Says; MeteoroidThe current official definition of a meteoroid from the International Astronomical Union is a solid object moving in interplanetary space, of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably larger than an atom.[1][2] Beech and

[meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Barrett
The Lerner-Trigg Encyclopedia of Physics, pg.1137 doesn't help much. The ONLY thing they have to say is; Meteorites, which occasionally fall to earth, are thought to be mostly fragments of asteroids scattered into earth-orbit crossing trajectories by gravitational resonance interactions, and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Hankey
Interesting...I did not know that. So why is it then that folks on the met list only care about the boomers that happen 3-5 times a year and write off the minor events that seem to happen daily. There seems to be a belief on the list that no boom = no meteorite. No bolide = no meteorite.

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Most meteorites are single entities. They probably result from non-fragmenting events- just a piece of rock that enters slow and shallow, stops burning, and the core hits the ground. Meteorites that are grouped and found in strewn fields come from larger, fragmenting events. Meteorite hunters

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Bolidc: The term was first used, in the French language, in 1834. The French is derived from classical Latin bolis (generally bolidis), fiery meteor, originally from the classical Greek, βολις, missile, arrow, or flash of lightning, akin to ballein, to throw. Definition: a brilliant meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Stuart McDaniel
So when does a meteoroid become an asteroid?? (or vice versa) -Original Message- From: Count Deiro Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:30 PM To: Walter Branch ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101 Hi Walter and all, This may be the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
10 meters is commonly cited. But realistically, the line is a blurry one. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Count Deiro

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Peterson
Note, however, that the IAU defines fireball but is silent about bolide. So if the context demands some precision, bolide is best avoided. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
Hello Stuart: We have had this conversation before. Your second question(when does an asteroid become a meteoroid): There is no real minimum asteroid size or maximum meteoroid size. When it comes up as a question, I usually say 5 or 10 meters is the crossover. Also, if an asteroid gets hit by

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
Chris: If it is blurry, it is called a comet! :-) Larry 10 meters is commonly cited. But realistically, the line is a blurry one. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Stuart

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites 101

2011-01-15 Thread lebofsky
Last statement on this topic (to avoid more crossing emails). The definition I have seen is that a fireball is defined as something brighter than Venus (so yes, about -4). Yes, the term bolide is generally avoided, but it is still used: People who study cratering events will use the terms

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Re: [meteorite-list] Radar of Mississippi Fall?

2011-01-15 Thread Jake Schaefer
I've added position and location of new video footage from Louisiana which was looking north. This new data matches up almost exactly to the trajectory I had already constructed. This just gives me more confidence in saying that the radar signature is from this meteor/fireball/bolide and that