A seemingly honest fellow from Sandy Hook, NJ came to my office late
today in
the hope I could verify what he was told could be a meteorite---and it
is.
are honestbut I just don't get it.
Hi Darryl,
Either you run with it or you give it back. But posting the pictures
of the etch
This went out to the IMCA list a day or so ago; since then, a little
more information has come to light -- please see below.
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Hello All,
As you may or may not know, a former IMCA member named John Bryan
Scarborough was found to be selling misrepresented material from at
least four different
New AZ Chondrite
http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Hi Michael,
I believe you may be looking at the 2011 results.
I am not aware of a Johnstown in the 2012 auction. It there was one,
What was the lot 3, please.
Michael
On 2/13/12 6:19 PM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Michael and List,
I notice
Hi Folks,
Sandy Hook is a national Park, regular civilians don't live there. There are no
75ft escarpments in Sandy Hook. Maybe if the guy said he was from Atlantic
Highlands, that would make more sense. This story is full of holes, Daryl
please be careful.
Best Regards from New
Dear List Members,
I have some nice pieces for sale :
Homestead, 40g piece with Vienna label.
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Homestead40GramWithViennaLabel?authkey=Gv1sRgCN2u0viuuoz-jgE
Half specimen of NWA 2696 Howardite, 41g, really nice texture :
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for the initial wave of responses both on and off list.
I've clarified the following two points raised below and have taken a path
similar to what Doug mentioned (also below).
Hopefully our learning what meteorite this is will prove helpful. Please
circulate as you
List,
Like I posted before. I am sick of this self appointed judge and jury BS. I,
and Dr. Ted Bunch, were victims of this type of witch hunt last year and when
all allegations of misconduct were thoroughly proven to be falseno apology
from anyone was forthcoming.
Scarborough, as I
Hi Count and Kudos' to you! You bring up some very real and serious points.
I hope I don't upset anyone with this post. I have this huge pet peeve of
those that sell meteorites without listing, mentioning and or providing a
Provenance on meteorites whether it be on eBay or their Websites.You
Sorry again list. I was so rattled I forgot to sign off with my name!
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Hi Count and Kudos' to you! You bring up some very real and serious points.
I hope I don't upset anyone with this post. I have this huge pet peeve of
those that sell meteorites without listing,
MikeG, list,
I have never done business with Scarborough nor have I ever met him. I only
know of him through this list.
I understand your confusion because I did have a bad experience with a Mifflin
meteorite but, it has since been completely explained and anybody effected was
quickly refunded
What type of backyard equipment does this couple have that could
produce such a perfect cut on an iron meteorite? Looks to me like a
previously purchased iron left out to rust a bit.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for the initial
Hi,
I can't really see what the problem is as it is obviously a purchased
or at least sawn end cut that has been left to rust...I can't see that
it really matters where it was foundeven if the story is
bogusas such I would have thought that it is very likely to match
an existing meteorite
Hi Darryl and List,
Graham writes:
Tracing its history or story of its terrestrial journey could be interesting
Could you please measure the bandwidth - especially the bandwidth
in the 7 o'clock and in the 2 o'clock positions. This could be a first
step toward narrowing down what it might be,
Hi,
If the circumstances of the find are erroneous, then the question of rightful
ownership and provenance arises.
I personally think it's incumbent on us all to ask a lot of questions as it
regards meteorite end pieces being found in a backyards.
Best / Darryl
On Feb 14, 2012, at
Hi,
Marlin is going to clean and prepare the specimen and I'll provide the new pics
after he has done so.
Best / d
On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Bernd V. Pauli wrote:
Hi Darryl and List,
Graham writes:
Tracing its history or story of its terrestrial journey could be interesting
Hi Darryl,
You have a challenging puzzle. Dr. Garvie had a similar problem and
was fortunate to have list members recognize the meteorite by the shape of
the cut face. Harvey Nininger did something similar with unidentified irons
in Ward's collection. I hope that you can match this
Darryl wrote:
Marlin is going to clean and prepare the specimen
and I'll provide the new pics after he has done so.
Peter just wrote:
I hope that you can match this meteorite with a known sample
It's chunky and blocky and some of its kamacite bands
are a bit cloudy so it could be badly
Hi,
Yes, several folks have thought Toluca...and me too. We'll see.;-)
On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Bernd V. Pauli wrote:
Darryl wrote:
Marlin is going to clean and prepare the specimen
and I'll provide the new pics after he has done so.
Peter just wrote:
I hope that you
Feb. 13, 2012
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Hi,
Yes, the finder is checking out the record of previous home ownership in the
immediate area.
Thanks and all best / d
On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Peter Scherff wrote:
Hi Darryl,
You have a challenging puzzle. Dr. Garvie had a similar problem and
was fortunate to have list
Hi Don and List,
I don't think you have offended anyone because you do raise a valid
point about provenance that has been discussed at length previously on
this List. I think the majority of people on the List consider you
one of the good guys, so your input is always valued. I would just
like
Hi,
My friend Carol Springer (popular local FM radio station DJ) took a
bunch of photos. She's a huge meteorite fan and jumped at the chance
to hang with bunch of nutty meteorite enthusiasts in Tucson.
click here.
List, Plotting map of sighting reports just posted. Preliminary fall data
will be posted in a few hours. Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/02/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-large-meteor.html
--- On Wed, 2/15/12, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote:
These photos are a blast! They capture the humane moments between
the ones we've already seen and give us the feeling of having been there
although some of us we were thousands of miles away from these events.
Thank you, Carol and Ruben, for these precious moments!
Cheers,
Bernd
Dear List,
The preliminary fall data and location is now posted. This information is
subject to refinement.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/02/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-large-meteor.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Seeing as this is Valentine's Day, and the wife continually 'threw it out
into the trash'perhaps the original owner thought he was giving a
galactic gift and she felt scorned by simply making a statement
Just a thought, comical and real at the same time.
Richard Montgomery
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List, I have just completed and posted the sonics report map for the 13FEB2012
Bolide Event over SC.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/02/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-large-meteor.html
Dirk RossTokyo
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Don M wrote:
A provenance can be traced to the former owner and more questions can
then be brought up on the specimens validity.
Hi Don,
Have you noticed lately we are seeing a number of dealers advertising
spectacular falls in micro for weekl on the list? Every time I get
excited just to
Hmm Don Doug,
if you have such concerns about provenance,
you could easily avoid the sorrows.
A meteorite is born, when it is published in the Bulletin.
So be the second link in the chain.
Buy NWAs from the main mass holder given in the Bulletin
and Oman and new U.S.-desert finds from the
Martin wrote:
you could easily avoid the sorrows ...
Unfortunately, an NWA number is not the same as a named specimen to
collectors that attach sentimental value to localities, there is no one
size fits all rationale to valuing meteorites - it's a personal
decision and your point is fine
The Leeds (Quebec) and Michigan iron turned out to be transported
Toluca.
Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
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I noticed that the price of recent falls has plummeted. Some were overpriced
at several hundred dollars a gram for ordinary chondrites to begin with.
Collector confidence in recent falls seems to be at an all time low due to a
handful of bad people placing questionable material on the market.
Hi Don and list,
Don I fully agree with you regarding the fact that All collectors and
dealers should keep every single piece of provenance from the past history
of who owned and sold the meteorite and I'm sure any Meteorite Dealer in
good conscious would agree with you that provenance is
buy your meteorites from respected dealers and collectors google any of the
people on the wall of shame and you will find many problems. Avoid problem
dealers and you will have no problems.
Michael Farmer
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On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Doug and List.
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions Doug. I would like to add several
things though to help clarify any misconceptions either based on my
statements or yours. First the whole idea of provenance is NOT used as a
gimmick to sell. It is only an assurance to the potential
Don wrote:
I am sorry I even brought up provenance
Hi Don. like I said, you had a few auctions I nearly jumped on and I
definitely wasn't supposing anything about your high quality work. But
when it gets hot in the kitchen the answer isn't to leave it; it's to
make it better. My beef with
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