[meteorite-list] my response to an approach by a journalist

2013-03-02 Thread jim_brady611
I run an ad in Ireland thats been up for a couple of years now and I was approached by a journo who wanted to talk to me and maybe do a piece.I googled him and saw his work and immediately knew I wanted nothing to do with him or his article.You can see my response to him about halfway down the

Re: [meteorite-list] my response to an approach by a journalist

2013-03-02 Thread Bob King
Hi everyone, As a journalist (I'm a newspaper photographer) and someone who works with journalists every day I have a few thoughts on this topic. In newsrooms and TV stations across the U.S. the number of reporters is dwindling. The few left are asked to do stories well outside their areas of

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jason, no offense, but only a remark. You're always pretty fast, when it's about blaming sellers to be dishonest or fraudulent. In my personal opinion that doesn't fit directly well together with some offerings on your webpage. For instance some of the Martians, there it is not directly clear

Re: [meteorite-list] my response to an approach by a journalist

2013-03-02 Thread Carl Agee
Bob, Good points! Ideally we should engage the press and tell our story. One publication that I interviewed with recently really impressed me, because they had a fact-checker who called me up about a week after the interview. She literally went through the interview question by question asking me

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread James Beauchamp
The night of March 23, 2010, two beautiful exploding events happened just West of Oklahoma City early evening. I was lucky to get them both on the allsky. The next day I started getting calls from a local station. first they wanted a phone interview, then they wanted to come by the house and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread cdtucson
List, I have been around Bob Haag (this radio voice does not sound like bob?) and the meteorite world long enough to say that in my opinion, Bob Haag and The Meteorite Men TV show have done nothing but, improve the popularity of meteorites and those men have represented us well. These are the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread Count Deiro
Dear James, You were lucky indeed. I'm pleased to hear the local news treated you with respect and went away with a better understanding of the science. Where did you say this happened...a town in Oklahoma? Regards, Guido -Original Message- From: James Beauchamp

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Farmer
Carl, the problem is armchair warriors like you who cry and whine incessantly but have yet to provide a real meteorite, have no idea the troubles us hunters go through to fill the collections of the world, and don't care. You have been involved in many scams but no recoveries. Some of us have

[meteorite-list] Meteorite INUKSHUK ad

2013-03-02 Thread Roman Jirasek
I was cutting some NWA meteorites this week and came up with this . . . http://www.meteoritelabels.com/Sale.html LMAO Cheers, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (Weather Channel)

2013-03-02 Thread Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum
An article from the Weather Channel entitled: Meteor Fragments Hot on the Black Market. http://www.weather.com/news/meteor-cleanup-20130218 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (CBC News)

2013-03-02 Thread Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum
Here's a quote from this CBC News article: While taking and selling material from meteorites is highly illegal, the New York Times reports that a flourishing global market exists online, with fragments widely available to anyone in the world. The name of the article is: Russian meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (CBC News)

2013-03-02 Thread Brandon
Plain ignorant slander! Reading articles like that really gets my blood boiling. What can be done? This trend is only getting worse and seems to be a problem growing worse each day...and Fall. Sad. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market

2013-03-02 Thread Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum
From the Boston Globe: Writing at the website of the excellent BBC Radio program The Naked Scientists, Audrey Tempelsman looks at the global trade in meteorites, and finds a shadowy, globe-spanning gray market. Many meteorite resellers, Tempelsman writes, close their eyes to the legal

Re: [meteorite-list] my response to an approach by a journalist

2013-03-02 Thread Anne Black
Thank you Bob. After the NYT published their article I tried repeatedly to contact Bill Broad by phone and emails but he never responded to either. If you know of any other ways to repair the damage he caused I really would like to know. Also I did give an interview to a reporter from

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Ken Newton
(Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M.

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (CBC News)

2013-03-02 Thread Anne Black
What can be done? One suggestion: if you would all keep one sending a link to the rebuttal I wrote to all those news services and be insistent about it, maybe some of them will actually read it and maybe learn something. Here is a link to it:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (CBC News)

2013-03-02 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Hello Anne, list , - at first I would reject decidedly the phrasing Black Market ... ;-) Best Matthias - Original Message - From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: b1dunov...@aol.com; dori...@embarqmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:18

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Brandon
Wow! Thanks you Ken for bringing that to light!! Blatant that is. Jorge, it would seem you have been backed into a corner. I await your rebuttal as I have purchased several witnessed falls from you though they have been separated from our Main collection and put into the suspect cabinet.

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Brandon
What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (Weather Channel)

2013-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Someone please tell me where the Black Market is. I would love to see it. Is it an unmarked building in the industrial district of Chicago? What is the code word to gain entry through the forbidden Naugahyde Door? If there is a meteorite black market, then it must be the most highly-kept

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (Weather Channel)

2013-03-02 Thread Brandon
All sales of meteorites purchased at the Black Market are herby suspended!!! Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Someone please tell me where the Black Market is. I would love to see it. Is it an unmarked building in the

Re: [meteorite-list] my response to an approach by a journalist

2013-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Nick is a great person to have on our side, because he fully understands the special relationship between private dealers/hunters and science. The media can beat the black market dead horse all they want, but the simple fact of the matter is that no black market exists today. Now, if the

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Farmer
If you would all stop buying from random scammers, the scams might stop. Just sayin:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Based on the link below, that should be enough for eBay to pull not just the listing but others as well. Slap, slap, oh sorry, I was obviously dreaming. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com Cc: Jorge M.

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (Weather Channel)

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi yo, I wonder, why authors of such articles never mention, that the participants in that black market are extraordinarily simple minded people. Sittin as a hermit retreated in a cell in the Schaeftlarn monastery trying to get my annual tax declaration ready within less than 4 weeks, I asked

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Farmer
eBay makes money on sales, they do not care if they are sale of fake or real items. Forget eBay and you would be happier. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on the link below, that should be enough for eBay to pull not just

Re: [meteorite-list] Baygorria

2013-03-02 Thread Ken Newton
For those unfamiliar with Baygorria and want to see details and photos: http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=27Itemid=118 The conclusion of the article is an appropriate quote by Edwin T. Best, Ken newton On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com

[meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread valparint
Truer words have never been written. Better advice has never been given. Paul Swartz NO member of the media who contacts you has your interest, or the activity you engage in at heart. They care less, about you and what effect their writings may have on you, or your future activities. It's

Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Shawn Alan
Brandon, Ken and Listers I spoke with an ebay rep and he told me the Oum Dreyga witnessed 2003 Meteorite fall 19.3gr INDIVIDUAL ONDA2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/350701318767 was placed on ebay in Jan 2013 for 30 day auction, well before the feb 15 the 2013 Russian fall. Chelyabinsk RUSSIA

Re: [meteorite-list] Baygorria

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Farmer
So when you read that, I am quoted as warning everyone back then in 2005. Sadly people never learn. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: For those unfamiliar with Baygorria and want to see details and photos:

[meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Don Merchant
Very good advice Mike. If I may add...to all of you who do sell on eBay and are tired of paying fees, and receiving unjust negative feedback from constipated Buyers or dealing with fraud and wanna be Dealers/Sellers, may I suggest an alternative. Please understand I realize eBay covers a world

Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Hi Don and List, Yes there will be a set price and yes you can still use PayPal to have Buyers purchase your meteorites, but Bam...no eBay fees, no negative feedback no bull crap! Maybe a little closer to rocket science, but if you still want to offer bidding, there are open-source bidding

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market

2013-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
We should boycott every one of these publications and the advertisers who use them. I came home a few weeks ago and saw a copy of the NYT magazine (an insert?) laying on the kitchen table. It didn't matter where it came from or who it belonged to (still don't know), but it went straight into the

Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Sure, eBay has a massive traffic base. But, the vast majority of those visitors have zero interest in meteorites. At any given time, the amount of visitors on eBay who are looking to purchase a meteorite is a tiny percentage of the overall traffic base. By paying eBay fees, you are basically

[meteorite-list] Ad-Bencubbin, Zagami, Murichison, Collescipoli, Johnstown, Shergotty and others ending soon!

2013-03-02 Thread mail
Thank you for checking out my weekly auctions: http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites NO RESERVE 2.1g Bencubbin slice, still SUPER cheap! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=251235085234ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT MURCHISON

Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Hi MikeG, I've never studied your market, so I have absolutely no clue how you drive traffic, what your traffic volume is, what your sell-through looks like, or how you manage your pipeline - so I'm just going to take your word for it - I honestly don't have any interest, vested or otherwise, in

Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Jodie and List, My method of driving traffic is pretty simple - invest heavily in social media, message boards, mailing lists, and any other venue where you can insert your URL without it being spammy. I stop short of spam, because I hate it so much. It's not digging ditches, but I spend at

[meteorite-list] Will exportation of the Chelyabinsk meteorite be banned?

2013-03-02 Thread James Masny
Check ou the link: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/meteorite-export-ban-proposed-in-duma/476236.html Will some of this material eventually make it over here legally to be sold by our trusted dealers? Jim __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

2013-03-02 Thread Jodie Reynolds
but I spend at least 8 hours a day, every day, driving traffic online. It is time-consuming, but one can make a routine out of it. Aha! See, you're running a real business. 8 hrs a day invested in marketing activities, what, a couple hours a day in shipping and support, minimum? Then you

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Farmer
I hit you back when you mention me. Leave me out of your emails and you will hear a lot less from me. Let the hunters hunt and you can do whatever you please. I heard you made some friends in Tucson with a nice Arispe deal. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 5:39 PM,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio

2013-03-02 Thread Don Merchant
I guess the question is are we better off today with meteorites then we were 4 years ago? I am not sure I can answer that, but if President Obama asked me if I am better off today then 4 years ago I guess I can say yes! 4 years ago I didn't qualify for food stamps!! Sincerely Don Merchant

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-03-02 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Campo del Cielo Contributed by: Ray Watts http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com