Hello list,
There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorite from my home
state of Rhode Island. However, it was recently reported in our local
press that a stone meteorite was discovered during a still ongoing
archaeological excavation of the Newport Tower in Newport, R.I. This
Hello list,
A list member has kindly pointed out that the
meteorite in question is indeed shown on the webpage I sent earlier,
documenting the archaeological dig at the Newport Tower.
Here are 2 photos, which can be found in the daily log entry for
10/18/06:
bad. Shape is good, texture and colour are good...anyone who's in
the area would do well to check it out.
Regards,
Jason
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Hello list,
There has never been a recorded fall or find of a meteorite from my home
state of Rhode Island. However
I spent 2 days at the Newport Tower dig, but was unable to examine the
meteorite, as by then it was in the mayor's office for safe keeping,
and the mayor was nowhere to be found. Whether it be meteorite or
meteorwrong, it belongs to the city of Newport.
I did explain to Jan and Ron Barsted, the
I spent 2 days at the dig, but was unable to view the meteorite, as by
then it was in safe keeping in the Mayor's office and the mayor was
not to be found. Whether it turns out meteorite or meteorwrong, it
belongs to the city of Newport. I did make sure that Ron and Jan
Barsted, the organizers
Mark wrote:
Good work there, well done taking the
time to go see the site...Do you know
if they do any kinds of tests other then
a visual like a streak test, magnet test,
etc., etc.?
Hello Mark,
Well, I'm only 30 minutes from the site, so no big deal getting there.
Elton wrote:
We don't know what it is so it must
be a meteorite, implying we on the
dig are all knowing except for what
we don't know otherwise.
Hello Elton,
Actually, Ron Barsted told me he based his
visual identification on having seen and handled hundreds of meteorites
Gary asked:
What else does everyone collect?
Time permitting, I sit perfectly still for several hours on my days off
and collect dust.
Then I go out and hunt for fossils and artifacts (surface finds only!)
Charlie
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Darren Garrison wrote:
I have an inordinate fondness of
Flexicalymene sp. trilobites from
around Ohio--I have dozens of them.
Hello Darren,
One of the neatest specimens I once had in my trilobite collection was a
pair of Flexicalymene meeki trilobites from Ohio in a configuration
Nice post, Jerry. You're a heartfelt guy, as has been clear for some
time. I know you're from Ma. Take in the August Springfield show
sometime. Always meteorites there, though not as many dealers as in
earlier years. I'm from RI but have not been to the show for 3 years.
Maybe next year.
This cannot be a witnessed fall?
A crash is heard in the trees and 2 days later a meteorite as fresh as
the morning dew is found at the location where the crash was heard..
Will the witness please tell the court exactly what you heard outside
your door on the evening of
Maybe something
Hello Iris,
Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know
better then to pay attention to the rantings of Greg Hupe or Mike
Farmer.
Best,
Charlie
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Hello Iris,
Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know
Michael wrote:
.I also will drop all this unless I am
called names again like Charlie Devine
and now Nelson Oaks did.
Michael, Geoff, list:
Just for the record, I did not call you ANY names Michael. I referred
to your guilty until proven innocent approach as rantings. And I
You wrote:
It may have been only the less energetic
vaporization of the 5% to 8% of the
meteorite that was troilite that was the
bright flash rather then the vaporization
of the entire stone. Still, that alone would
have been enough to shatter the impactor
into
http://www.mineraltown.com/Reports/giant_crystals/crystals_cave.jpg
Selenite, Naica mine, southern Chihuahua, Mexico. Discovered April,
2000.
I posted this pic on the list several years ago.
Sorry for the repost, just going for the Wow! factor:-)
Charlie
Andi wrote:
Wow! Where do you buy these perfect
minatures of hman beings?:)
Seeing is disbelieving. This page gives a short synopsis. Check the
link more photos to see more little people :-)
http://giantcrystals.strahlen.org/america/naica.htm
Charlie
http://www.esnipe.com will place a bid for you with as little as one
second remaining in the auction. You set the time when esnipe bids for
you
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You wrote:
But why do these people have to mar their
wonderful finds with BS like that he dreamed
about finding it only a few meters away the
night before? That is simply stupid.
On page 62 of The Robert Haag Collection of Meteorites, Private
Collection Edition, Robert Haag wrote: Great Sand
While I have never seen incontrovertible proof for the existence of PK
or TK, in general research into these areas is part of the much broader
research into the relationship of consciousness and the physical
universe, whether macro or micro(quantum). I personally find such
research to be one of
Dear list
Don't imagine they get much bigger then this..
http://www.journalstar.com/local.php?story_id=58157
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for a refund!
: )
Thanks, Tom
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
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Dave,
I received your message but my replies bounce back. If you contact me
again and include your phone number, I'll touch base with you that way.
My apologies to the list for the personal message.
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Dear list,
I agree with John that this is not a case of an IMCA member trying to
sell a meteorwrong as a meteorite. He calls it an iron rock and
meteorite-looking, and if I were a bidder I would not believe I was
bidding on a meteorite,
To protect those who might believe they were bidding on a
Adam and list,
I saw a segment on the Today Show, I believe it was yesterday's edition,
about a guy who lived out west, and who was selling a theme park that
had been owned and operated by his family for years. He chose eBay over
any number of local real estate agents. When asked why, he
Roman wrote:
Hey someone named Gregory, Are you the
guy who had mentioned something about
bulls in a china shop when we were having
the SEX and meteorites contest?
Good morning Roman and list,
In fairness to Gregory and to save Gregory the task of searching the
archives, it was I who made the
Tom asked:
How long until these asphalt chunks turn up
on EBAY?
Not long at all, Tom:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184229794
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Two more:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184225892
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2184227572
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Mike,
I'll go a step further then John. You can absolutely trust Serge and
company. They are also good friends with Al Lang and he speaks highly
of them. Since Al is one of the true good guys in this hobby, whom
I've known for many years, that's good enough for me. I've also dealt
with Serge
Michael and list,
Here in southern New England there exists groups of Monk parrots. These
parrots are, I believe, native to Argentina. The predominant theory is
that they escaped from ships in New York city. They have been here in
Rhode Island, year round mind you, for at least 15 years. I
John and Gregory,
Well, no quakes in New England thursday night/friday morn, but as rabid
baseball fans I'm sure you guys can understand the gloomy mood pervading
Boston and the rest of New England at the moment. We do get an average
of 2-3 small quakes each month in RI and southeast Mass.but
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3244927.stm
This article describes tests done in the Atacama desert that may shed
light on results obtained in the 76 Vikng mission.
Regards,
Charlie
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Dear list:
From a secluded spot on the shore of Mill Cove, Narragansett Bay, Rhode
Island, USA, my wife and I watched a narrowing band of moonlight on
still waters, a blood moon, and lots of squawking ducks. We thought it
very beautiful.
BTW, http://www.spacewheather.com has a nice lunar eclipse
Dear list:
Didn't realize there were 2 space weather sites.
Here is the correct address for the lunar eclipse gallery:
http://www.spaceweather.com
Regards,
Charlie
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Dear List:
I want to sit down soon and count the number of localities in my
collection. It's a modest number, but in recent years I've purchased
quite a few classified NWA meteorites and I'm wondering: do I count
each classified specimen as a separate locality ( and if I have 2 with
different
Hello Rick and list.
Not always easy to see design by intelligence when viewing human affairs
and history.
But where the universe is concerned how many humans have ever enveloped
it in total understanding? It seems to outpace our intelligence so much
as to seem the work of Intelligence
Hi Rob,
Wow, great site! Thanks for that! I've sure bookmarked it.
Best wishes,
Charlie
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Dear Brad-Naysayers,
I too have had a long wait, in my case for a sample of NWA 995 (under
classification). While waiting for this sample, I had another eBay
winner of NWA 995, whom I did not know, write to me asking if I had
received my sample.
He was in a panic because he thought he was being
Dave, Brad, and list:
I agree with you completely, Dave. Does any other meteorite seller have
6 negative feedbacks on eBay? Read those negatives and you see
complaints similar to those mentioned on this list, and the same tired
excuses from Brad. Brad, when people send you their hard earned
In earlier ages, people who claimed to have seen stones fall from the
sky, were they too considered to be a little touched?
French peasent: I have seen stones falling from the heavens!!
French professor: Uneducated dolt. Nutcase!!
(Not to mention rains of fish, frogs, and other things that
Good morning list,
I may have just found an answer(?). I haven't been able to post if there
is a cc involved. I was just able to post without any cc involved.
testing one two
Charlie the nutcase and damned proud of it Devine
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Dear listmembers,
If you're like me, you enjoy checking out Rob Elliot's website at
http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html
Rob has one of the largest on-line inventories of meteorites and he
updates it frequently.
Well, about a year ago, I had my eye on a pretty NWA chondrite, then
unclassified,
Dear Pierre,
My apologies if I seemed to be blaming French scientists for ignorance
re the true nature of meteorites. It was not my intention but I could
have been more generic in my fictional example. Understand that I was
referring to the centuries prior to our understanding of what
Dear list,
A friend just wrote to tell me he just received The Encyclopedia of
Meteorites from Amazon.com for $35. He hasn't been able to put it down.
I'm ordering mine today. Anybody else get a copy yet, and if so, how do
you like it?
Best wishes,
Charlie
, No! No! No! Here we go again! Who has a copy of the original article
in the Nomad Times? If a Man is killed in a Desert by a Meteorite and Nobody
Heard it, did it Really make a Sound?
Sterling
Charlie Devine wrote:
Hi List,
A close friend and dealer I've
Dear list,
I know, off topic, but this really is an interesting article re the life
on Mars debate, and it has nothing to do with Hoagland or photos of
artificial structures on Mars. A press release from the European
Space Agency:
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0203/14marsspots/
Have a great
Dear list,
Wow!! Spectacular photos:
http://www.spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_iz.html
Best wishes,
Charlie
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Dear Bernd, Mike, and list:
It may be worth noting that in addition to the TKW of 148 g for Dhofar
026, the Labenne family has collected 12 stones paired with Dhofar 026.
These are Dhofar 457-468, with a combined TKW for these 12 being 560.95
grams.
Best wishes,
Charlie
Hi Serguei,
The following entry appears in the 4th edition of the Catalogue:
Atlantic Ocean
Fell 1809, June 19, 2300 hrs
Doubtful.
Many stones fell into the sea, and one of 170g on the deck of a ship,
south of Rhode Island, U.S.A., but this was lost and the description is
inadequate, E.F.F.
Dear list:
I noticed recently that Ken Newton has created an About Me page on eBay
with the purpose of educating bidders on the existence of meteorwrongs
on eBay. I think he's done a fantastic job. Take a look:
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/magellon/
Best wishes,
Charlie
John and list:
Matteo had the right idea when he provided a link to Ken Newton's About
Me page in his own auctions. Ken gave everyone permission to do this.
Ken's me page gives new collectors all the info they need on
meteorwrongs and avoiding them on eBay. Any seller can simply preface
this
Jamie and David,
Jamie wrote:
Seems about the only things the postal
service can deliver on time are bills.
The US Postal Service doesn't deliver mail in Europe for heaven's sake!
Once your check arrives in Vassiliev's country, it's up to HIS postal
system to deliver.
Charlie
Hi all,
Four years already. As the list has noted in recent days, this is a
most beautiful and unusual meteorite. I was just checking out my metal
rich interior slice. I love it, but also realizing I must move a nice
crusted slice a bit higher up on my wish list.
Best wishes,
Charlie
The flip side of Paypal:
http://www.paypalwarning.com/
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for any company in existance, I have been
using paypal since they opened and have NEVER had the slightest problem.
Mike Farmer
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National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Office of Inspector General
Washington, D.C. 20546
July 22, 2002
RELEASE 2002-081: FOUR ARRESTED IN SCHEME TO SELL STOLEN MOON ROCKS
On July 20, 2002, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Tampa
Hi all,
Matteo, although Steve has posted what amounts to the same sales or
trade pitch more than once in a day, I cannot recall ever seeing 6
similar messages from him in one day. I think it is possible that
you've received multiple copies of his posts, which really wouldn't be
his fault. I
Steve,
I'm Irish-American but until the age of 13 lived in an all-Italian
neighborhood. Rhode Island has a large Italian-American population.
The word, borrowing your phonetic spelling, pie-zon-o, is spoken quite a
bit around here, by both Italians and non-Italians. I've never known it
to
of meteorites available to the rest of the show's materials was very small, but
we were not without great representation of dealers, collectors and ofcourse the
rocks.
At the invite of fellow collectors, Charlie
Devine and Gary Swanson from Rhode Island, I traveled the 6 + hours from PA
The owner of the property is still waiting for a response from either
Brown University or the University of Rhode Island. If nobody stops by
to examine the crater by Monday he's going to dig up whatever, if
anything, is at the bottom of the hole. I'll keep the list updated if
anything of
Arnold wrote:
I see I misspelled the word. Just an oversite
on my part.
Oversite should be spelled oversight. Just another oversight on your
part. Also, why do I get the impression that all your posts from the
past 2 days were really just an excuse to spam the list with your never
ending sales
When I saw the phrase meteorites that the Incas had carved on, this
hoax came to mind:
http://skepdic.com/icastones.html
Just a thought
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Dave and list,
I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the
negative content of recent months finally driven even him away?
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John and list,
I'm sure Bernd has a sense of humor, but no way is he Proud Tom. Who
was quickest to answer virtually any meteorite-related question on this
list, complete with enough references to satisfy anyone? Bernd. And he
always showed his class. I don't know if he's disappeared because
Hi Rob, John, Mark and list
Rob wrote:
In a given day at Roach, I probably pick
up a couple thousand rocks, piling them
up in this manner.
I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a
thesis on The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far
West:
Hello Grant, Rob, and list
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Hello Grant, Rob, and list
Grant wrote:
Your last comment reminded me of this
book:
Walter M. Miller's acclaimed SF classic
A Canticle for Leibowitz opens with the
accidental excavation of a holy artifact:
a creased brittle memo scrawled by the
hand of the blessed
Jamie,
I found this:
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/mer_weather/
Charlie
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Ron and list,
Towards the end of this article, one of the scientists expresses concern
that private expeditions will beat the scientific expeditions back to
the LaPaz ice field next year. He is quoted as saying: The expeditions
who use our information to help a tourist pick up a meteorite and
Hard to believe I'm the only one interested in an answer to this curious
statement by a scientist who collects meteorites in Antarctica. But I
did a little digging and got the answer. It is perfectly legal for
private parties to collect meteorites in Antarctica.
Regards,
Charlie
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Charlie,
Amazing! Well done!
(Hupes are now packing their thermal underwear:)
Best,
Ken
Charlie Devine wrote:
Hard to believe I'm
Hi John,
The wind chill yesterday morning here in Rhode Island was 40 below zero
Fahrenheit. I wore four layers, was outdoors for several hours and
stayed as warm as toast! Loved it in fact. Well of course I'm crazy,
but I'm thinking now the Antarctic ice fields would be a piece of cake.
Yeah,
Hello Ken and Matt,
Matt, I have a question I would like you to ask Matteo should you see
him in the near future.
On 8 January 2004, a friend of Matteo's posted a message to the
meteorite-list with the subject heading UP WITH MATTEO!! The friend's
name was Francesco Cini. Mr. Cini provided a
Mark and list,
There is an artifact collector who goes by the name I buy fakes.
Don't know if he's still using that handle but he would bid on fakes.
Other potential bidders would see his bid, and perhaps curious, click on
his about me ebay page, where they would find a dissertation on the
great
Worrying about surviving an asteroid impact?
Maybe this is an even bigger worry, especially for our European friends
by the sounds of this secret Pentagon report. For what it's worth:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1153530,00.html
Regards,
Charlie
http://www.newscientist.com/news/print.jsp?id=ns4812
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Martin,
I have spoken to Phil Scalisi several times. He is a good friend of a
friend, and he often sets up a table at the Springfield, Ma show in
August. His is one of the foremost private mineral collections in New
England, and probably well beyond that. To the best of my knowledge he
never
Dear list,
For those in the US, the Discovery channel is airing a program called
Fireballs from Space Sunday evening at 8, with a repeat airing at 11
PM.The show is described as dealing with earth crossing objects and the
menace they pose.
Regards,
Charlie
Michael and Martin,
And because prehistoric refers to cultures that have not developed
writing, there are still prehistoric cultures in existance today.
Regards,
Charlie
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Al,
I can't find my copy of Find a Falling Star :-(
But in that book Nininger describes the one and only time he, purely by
chance, surface collected a previously unknown meteorite. As I recall,
it was a very small chondrite. If you can find that passage, or if
someone else can find where he
I want to thank Robert Woolard for answering my question regarding the
only previously unknown meteorite actually field collected by Nininger.
It was Puente-Ladron, an L chondrite of 7.673 grams which Nininger
picked up near a bridge over the Puerco River, 10 miles from Ladron
Peak, in Socorro Co,
Bernd, Gary, listees,
This page from Eric Twelker's site has a rough map of the distribution
area.
http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/CDinfo.htm
Regards,
Charlie
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Nice Peekskill kits, Jan. I am a Peekskill lover and own none:-( And I
knew Alan Lang well and could have had a fine piece if only I asked! It
was during a lull in my interest in meteorites. Love the stones that
draw attention to themselves this way. Have a slice of Worden with red
paint from
List,
Can't get the link but check out item# 6610535940. What's up with that?
Even the description of the discovery is similar to Bob Verish's
account.
Best wishes,
Charlie
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Dear list,
I can't download this 2 minute clip, but most listmembers probably can,
and it may be worth seeing. Scroll down the page at the link until you
see a video entitled Space rock falls into living room
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_index_skin/tvnz_index_group
Regards,
Charlie
Ken wrote:
Charlie
Thanks very much for the link.
Your welcome, Ken. And thank you for the description which gave me some
idea of what I'm missing:-) Guess we'll all be following the saga of
this new fall as it unfolds.
Best wishes,
Charlie
Jim and list,
I agree. I always saw sniping as a stategy used to get the item for the
best possible price. If I decide I am willing to spend $200 for an item
and with minutes left the price is still $75 I may snipe with $200 with
seconds left to see if I can get it for less then $200. If I bid
Hello Geoff. I'm answering you from the archives as I've only received
a few list messages in recent days. Seems to me Michael Blood had a
similar problem a few weeks ago, and now and then it seems to happen to
some list membes. So, you're not alone.
Regards,
Charlie
Terry:
For years now I keep hearing that exportation of fossils from China is
illegal, with severe punishments for those Chinese who collect and
supply. Yet here in the USA, and in other markets I'm sure, dino eggs
continue to be so prolific it's as if the dinos were still laying them.
And the
Greetings,
Some time ago I noticed a Native American skull for sale on ebay. I did
report it to them, but I also reported it to a Native American news
group who in turn reported it to the assistant US Attorney General of
the seller's state. Ebay cancelled the ad and law enforcement took it
from
Dear listmembers,
This story sheds light on the recent claims and provides some history
regarding similar claims. Turns out the explorers predicted they would
find alien technology before they set out to do so.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/tunguska_event_040812.html
C. Devine
Marc,
Here is a photo of Lafayette from the Smithsonian:
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/minsci/images/gallery/34.htm
And here, in Nininger Moment #11, as compiled by Al Mitterling, Nininger
talks about Lafayette:
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/mitterling11.html
Amazing that it should look so fresh
and conveyed to branch offices apart from
the flood of mail and packages that comprise the bulk of mail volume.
Getting it signed for every step of the way is as close to TLC as the
post office gets, so if it's valuable to you as a buyer or seller, send
it registered.
Best wishes,
Charlie Devine
USPS
Heads Up!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/17/content_2102407.htm
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Hi John,
Good one. I knew before going to the link that it would be Babe's
contract. The seller, Alan Shawn Feinstein is a Rhode Island
institution by now. Made his first fortune from ads on matchbook
covers, and has been giving his money away ever since. Thanks for
sharing that. BTW, I
Bill,
Why are you posting private messages to the list?
Charlie
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A friend sent me this page this morning.
I accepted it as a gift for the new year, the story of a child so
inspiring that I feel moved to share it with as many people as possible.
Take the time to view the art and poetry and you may wonder, as I do,
from whence such genius derives. Her name is
They are ONLY rocks, Tom. You can't take them with you even when you
can afford only the best, and if you do take them with you, the
graverobbers will soon do their thing:-) They are ONLY rocks, the
objects of desire. Desire is never satisfied. Get a new rock, enjoy it
for a short time, and
Michael wrote:
Dave, come on, are you 3 years old?
Michael, in the years I've been on this list, nobody acts more like a 3
year old then you do.
Have a wonderful day,
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Michael,
I believe Farmer was the first to offer pieces of the Winslow St impact
with fragments of the house siding. Knowing you collect hammer stones,
I would put it this way: the Winslow St stone is not a hammerstone like
the Garza or Jones stones. It did not directly hit the house, but
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