Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question
Carl, List, Only one Mercury question? What is revealed from the first bulk composition scans is that Mercury surface, and presumably its crust, is composed of high-potassium non-feldspar rocks. In a word, Mercury is nothing like it's supposed to be. Mercury appears to have been made (the rock part) from high-volatile stuff, a notion that stands everything everybody has ever thought about Mercury on its head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBCExa2Rgwfeature=player_embedded Being non--field-geologically literate, I would like somebody on the List to post a list of Earthly high-potassium non-feldspar rocks rich in sulfur. I suppose that would be a bunch of high-potassium metallic sulfides, because one of the things we're seeing is a lot of sulfur on the surface of Mercury. Those yellow markings and stains in the photos? I don't think anybody ever thought Mercury would be a place rich in volatiles -- completely illogical. Welcome to the Real World... When I started out every book said the craters on the Moon were volcanoes. We spent a noticeable amount of the time we were actually ON the Moon looking for the evidence for lunar volcanoes. There aren't any volcanoes on the Moon. In one of the early Messenger flyby's there was a featured imaged called Spider crater. I posted here that I was pretty sure it was a caldera volcano. Now it appears that a lot of the craters on Mercury MAY be volcanoes. It would ironic (at the least) if we were to go from Moon volcanoes that are really impacts all the way to Mercury impacts that are really volcanoes! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/science/space/17mercury.html Even better would be if Mercurian volcanoes were caused by impacts, because every geophysicist on Earth rejects the notion that impacts could cause volcanoes (and flood basalts). As long as we are going to be wrong about most things, why not be wrong about everything? (I love that NYTimes headline Close Up, Mercury Is Less Boring. Well, Earth Monkeys, at least it's not as boring as the NYTimes... Oh, the other thing is that the magnetic field of Mercury is bigger (stronger) at one pole than the other pole, just in case there's not already enough weirdness. I have an easy explanation; Mercury's core is EGG-SHAPED. Huh? Or two imperfectly merged cores of differing sizes from a giant impact that did not completely differentiate after the event. And let's not even get close to the question of how a volatile-rich planet with a huge iron core could FORM this close to the Sun... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mercury question List, I have a question. With this new data from MESSENGER about the surface composition of Mercury; http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=174 What does this mean it terms of what a meteorite would be expected to look like? Would it be metallic -ish? Anyone, Thanks. Carl Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mercury question
MikeG, That never gets old! LOL! Phil Whitmer All sales of high-potassium, non-feldspar Mercury rocks are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question
I love it when scientific consensus gets turned on its head with facts! (My first astronomy book, Golden Library of Knowledge, The Moon, 1959, has three theories for the creation of lunar craters; volcanic, meteorite, and the bubble theory - popping bubbles while in a molten state) I'm assuming that angrites are slowly being discounted from Mercury origin? Cheers, Pete From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:20:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question Carl, List, Only one Mercury question? What is revealed from the first bulk composition scans is that Mercury surface, and presumably its crust, is composed of high-potassium non-feldspar rocks. In a word, Mercury is nothing like it's supposed to be. Mercury appears to have been made (the rock part) from high-volatile stuff, a notion that stands everything everybody has ever thought about Mercury on its head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBCExa2Rgwfeature=player_embedded Being non--field-geologically literate, I would like somebody on the List to post a list of Earthly high-potassium non-feldspar rocks rich in sulfur. I suppose that would be a bunch of high-potassium metallic sulfides, because one of the things we're seeing is a lot of sulfur on the surface of Mercury. Those yellow markings and stains in the photos? I don't think anybody ever thought Mercury would be a place rich in volatiles -- completely illogical. Welcome to the Real World... When I started out every book said the craters on the Moon were volcanoes. We spent a noticeable amount of the time we were actually ON the Moon looking for the evidence for lunar volcanoes. There aren't any volcanoes on the Moon. In one of the early Messenger flyby's there was a featured imaged called Spider crater. I posted here that I was pretty sure it was a caldera volcano. Now it appears that a lot of the craters on Mercury MAY be volcanoes. It would ironic (at the least) if we were to go from Moon volcanoes that are really impacts all the way to Mercury impacts that are really volcanoes! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/science/space/17mercury.html Even better would be if Mercurian volcanoes were caused by impacts, because every geophysicist on Earth rejects the notion that impacts could cause volcanoes (and flood basalts). As long as we are going to be wrong about most things, why not be wrong about everything? (I love that NYTimes headline Close Up, Mercury Is Less Boring. Well, Earth Monkeys, at least it's not as boring as the NYTimes... Oh, the other thing is that the magnetic field of Mercury is bigger (stronger) at one pole than the other pole, just in case there's not already enough weirdness. I have an easy explanation; Mercury's core is EGG-SHAPED. Huh? Or two imperfectly merged cores of differing sizes from a giant impact that did not completely differentiate after the event. And let's not even get close to the question of how a volatile-rich planet with a huge iron core could FORM this close to the Sun... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mercury question List, I have a question. With this new data from MESSENGER about the surface composition of Mercury; http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=174 What does this mean it terms of what a meteorite would be expected to look like? Would it be metallic -ish? Anyone, Thanks. Carl Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question
Rocks and minerals found in planetary meteorites have very little to do with where they originated from. That question is answered by analysis of the Oxygen isotopes. As evidenced by the NWA 5400 discussion and many others. It's not the minerals that matter it's the oxygen they contain. Another odd ball in this regard was GRA 06128. It plots with the brachinites but mineralogically is nothing like any other brachinite. But it was determined to be a Brachinite anyway. What I was asking and what Sterling asked in a better way was; What kind of rocks are they finding on Mercury as they relate or compare to which rocks found here on earth? It seemed to me that they would be rather metallic rocks ? Anyone ? Carl-- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Mike, I was referring to Sterling's text:...Mercury surface, and presumably its crust, is composed of high-potassium non-feldspar rocks., which I believe is opposite to what is generally found in angrites. Cheers, Pete Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:36:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: rsvp...@hotmail.com CC: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Good question Pete. :) Is there anything coming out of this new Mercury data (yet) that is relevant to the angrite parent body issue? Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/17/11, Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: I love it when scientific consensus gets turned on its head with facts! (My first astronomy book, Golden Library of Knowledge, The Moon, 1959, has three theories for the creation of lunar craters; volcanic, meteorite, and the bubble theory - popping bubbles while in a molten state) I'm assuming that angrites are slowly being discounted from Mercury origin? Cheers, Pete From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:20:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mercury question Carl, List, Only one Mercury question? What is revealed from the first bulk composition scans is that Mercury surface, and presumably its crust, is composed of high-potassium non-feldspar rocks. In a word, Mercury is nothing like it's supposed to be. Mercury appears to have been made (the rock part) from high-volatile stuff, a notion that stands everything everybody has ever thought about Mercury on its head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrBCExa2Rgwfeature=player_embedded Being non--field-geologically literate, I would like somebody on the List to post a list of Earthly high-potassium non-feldspar rocks rich in sulfur. I suppose that would be a bunch of high-potassium metallic sulfides, because one of the things we're seeing is a lot of sulfur on the surface of Mercury. Those yellow markings and stains in the photos? I don't think anybody ever thought Mercury would be a place rich in volatiles -- completely illogical. Welcome to the Real World... When I started out every book said the craters on the Moon were volcanoes. We spent a noticeable amount of the time we were actually ON the Moon looking for the evidence for lunar volcanoes. There aren't any volcanoes on the Moon. In one of the early Messenger flyby's there was a featured imaged called Spider crater. I posted here that I was pretty sure it was a caldera volcano. Now it appears that a lot of the craters on Mercury MAY be volcanoes. It would ironic (at the least) if we were to go from Moon volcanoes that are really impacts all the way to Mercury impacts that are really volcanoes! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/science/space/17mercury.html Even better would be if Mercurian volcanoes were caused by impacts, because every geophysicist on Earth rejects the notion that impacts could cause volcanoes (and flood basalts). As long as we are going to be wrong about most things, why not be wrong about everything? (I love that NYTimes headline Close Up, Mercury Is Less Boring. Well, Earth Monkeys
[meteorite-list] Mercury question
List, I have a question. With this new data from MESSENGER about the surface composition of Mercury; http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=174 What does this mean it terms of what a meteorite would be expected to look like? Would it be metallic -ish? Anyone, Thanks. Carl Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
