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2011-10-30 Thread cdtucson

Mark, Doug, All.
This chicken or egg question does have an obvious answer because it sounds 
rather logical whether  you are a believer in evolution or not. In fact this 
same obvious answer could be used to explain away a few million similar 
questions ( other odd things) if you think about it.
It is a particularly good answer if you are involved in the  very circular 
argument as evolution. 
Because it reinforces the argument itself but , in order to be fact in 
science proof is required. Otherwise it is but a great theory.
I am not arguing against evolution per se. Just saying that sometimes it takes 
more than a good explanation to make things so. As in all circular arguments 
there are too many possibly wrong assumptions made to begin with so, it is easy 
to believe the rest.  A one degree navigation error at the beginning of a 
journey can lead to a huge mistake. 
If for example for whatever reason you believe that meteorites seeded the Earth 
with life you might lean towards the belief that all odd things came from 
different meteorites. 
Oh and there is the god theory as well. Yet another species of a very 
different circular argument?

Why must all scientific theories agree with previous theories?
None of us was around back then so it's not like anyone can prove us wrong!
Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp collecting
This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting.

Carl
Meteoritemax
 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty 
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. 





  

 

 Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc wrote: 
 I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one:
 
 What came first. The chicken or the egg?
 
 Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a 
 chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long 
 before hens :)
 
 Mark Crawford
 
 
 
 On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
 
  Sterling,
  Okay.
  I have some real  questions for you.
  What came first. The chicken or the egg?
  Seriously!
  Also, Even if your statements are true.
  Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive?
  And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape? 
  Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup 
  already here? 
  Thanks,
  Carl
  
  
  
  
  
   Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
  One. There is NO missing link between Ape and
  Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub,
  not a tree.
  
  Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between
  Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between
  Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens
  of so-called species.
  
  If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great-
  great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents
  (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is
  it from ALL of them?
  
  For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian
  H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is
  H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis?
  Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes.
  
  Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry
  is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions
  derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of
  the Missing Link is one.
  
  Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery
  of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any
  potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary
  except for good judgment.
  
  
  Sterling K. Webb
  ---
  - Original Message - 
  From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net
  To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
  MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - 
  CambridgeEncyclopedia  More - AD
  
  
  I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing 
  link. Science knows it will have to do better than that.
  
  Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such 
  beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in 
  trees as I recall.
  
  Kirk.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
  To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge 
  Encyclopedia  More - AD
  
  
  On NWA 6077  / NWA 5400:
  
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158
  
  It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time 
  such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy 
  the missing link between Ape and Man.
  
  Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link 
  between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ?
  
  Kindest wishes
  Doug
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: John

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD

2011-10-30 Thread Mark's Meteorites

I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one:

What came first. The chicken or the egg?

Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't a
chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around long before
hens :)

Mark Crawford

On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:

Sterling,
Okay.
I have some real questions for you.
What came first. The chicken or the egg?
Seriously!
Also, Even if your statements are true.
Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive?
And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape?
Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup already
here?
Thanks,
Carl

Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
One. There is NO missing link between Ape and
Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub,
not a tree.

Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between
Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between
Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens
of so-called species.

If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great-
great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents
(numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is
it from ALL of them?

For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian
H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is
H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis?
Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes.

Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry
is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions
derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of
the Missing Link is one.

Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery
of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any
potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary
except for good judgment.

Sterling K. Webb
---
- Original Message -
From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net
To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -
CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD

I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing
link. Science knows it will have to do better than that.

Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such
beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time in
trees as I recall.

Kirk.

- Original Message -
From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge
Encyclopedia More - AD

On NWA 6077 / NWA 5400:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158

It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time
such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy
the missing link between Ape and Man.

Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link
between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ?

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge
Encyclopedia More - AD

Dear Meteorite List members,

All auctions started @ .99 cents.

All winning bidders will receive the New Outer Space Rocks 2012
magnetic
meteorite calendar. One per person.

All non-auction meteorites 10% OFF FREE SHIPPING.

Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks

www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com

HIGHLIGHTS of auctions include many new and exciting rare meteorite
types
professionally presented with provenance:

NWA 6868 (5.3g Part Slice) Introducing a gorgeous Provisionally
classified
LL6 Breccia meteorite. Recrystallized, mostly poikiloblastic clasts
containing
rare relict chondrule fragments in a matrix of related debris. The
presence of
some recognizable RP chondrule fragments in NWA 6868 makes it a Type
6 -
otherwise it would be an LL metachondrite. The necessary precautions
were taken
while cutting to ensure you have a nice stable specimen, this slice
is polished
on one side with no unsightly saw marks.(
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6868-LL6-Chondrite-Breccia-Meteorite-5-3g-PS-/380378898246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5890595f46
)

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD

2011-10-30 Thread John.L.Cabassi

H
Old post, same question
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg97258
.html

Cheers John Cabassi

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark's
Meteorites
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:56 AM
To: cdtuc...@cox.net
Cc: Sterling K. Webb; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types
-CambridgeEncyclopedia  More - AD


I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one:

What came first. The chicken or the egg?

Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just wasn't
a chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around
long before hens :)

Mark Crawford



On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:

 Sterling,
 Okay.
 I have some real  questions for you.
 What came first. The chicken or the egg?
 Seriously!
 Also, Even if your statements are true.
 Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive?
 And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape?
 Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the soup
already here? 
 Thanks,
 Carl
 
 
 
 
 
  Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 One. There is NO missing link between Ape and
 Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub,
 not a tree.
 
 Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between
 Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between
 Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens
 of so-called species.
 
 If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great- 
 great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents
 (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is
 it from ALL of them?
 
 For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian
 H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is
 H. sap. descended from H. neanderthalensis?
 Well, no. On the other hand... Well, yes.
 
 Human thinking about blood lines and ancestry
 is hopelessly corrupted by meaningless notions
 derived from antiquated tripe, of which the idea of
 the Missing Link is one.
 
 Three: There is no way (absent remarkable recovery
 of DNA beyond present technology) to prove any
 potential intermediary form actually IS intermediary
 except for good judgment.
 
 
 Sterling K. Webb
 -
 --
 - Original Message - 
 From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net
 To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - 
 CambridgeEncyclopedia  More - AD
 
 
 I don't believe that Lucy has ever been proven to be the missing
 link. Science knows it will have to do better than that.
 
 Australopithecine has often been debated---but never proven as such
 beyond any doubt. Lucy and her kind still spent most of their time
in 
 trees as I recall.
 
 Kirk.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
 To: geohigg...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types -
Cambridge 
 Encyclopedia  More - AD
 
 
 On NWA 6077  / NWA 5400:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/320779119158
 
 It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last 
 time
 such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found
Lucy 
 the missing link between Ape and Man.
 
 Hey John, or maybe the much more petrologically important link
 between Lucé and L'Aigle ;-) ?
 
 Kindest wishes
 Doug
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John higgins geohigg...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - Cambridge
 Encyclopedia  More - AD
 
 
 Dear Meteorite List members,
 
 
 All auctions started @ .99 cents.
 
 All winning bidders will receive the New Outer Space Rocks 2012
 magnetic
 meteorite calendar. One per person.
 
 All non-auction meteorites 10% OFF  FREE SHIPPING.
 
 Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks
 
 www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com
 
 HIGHLIGHTS of auctions include many new and exciting rare meteorite
 types
 professionally presented with provenance:
 
 NWA 6868 (5.3g Part Slice) Introducing a gorgeous Provisionally
 classified
 LL6 Breccia meteorite. Recrystallized, mostly poikiloblastic clasts

 containing
 rare relict chondrule fragments in a matrix of related debris. The 
 presence of
 some recognizable RP chondrule fragments in NWA 6868 makes it a
Type 
 6 -
 otherwise it would be an LL metachondrite. The necessary
precautions 
 were taken
 while cutting to ensure you have a nice stable specimen, this slice

 is polished
 on one side with no unsightly saw marks.( 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6868-LL6-Chondrite-Breccia-Meteorite-5-3g-PS
-/380378898246?pt

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2011-10-30 Thread MexicoDoug


Carl wrote:

Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp 
collecting This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting.


Hi Carl ;-),

Are your suggesting that chicken arrived on meteorites, along with its 
chickenfeed?  If I were to adopt your form of arguing (which I am not), 
Perhaps chondrules are just fossilized chicken poop?


Rutherford had to be a real pompous ass to say something like that --- 
but even if he probably was, you have misinterpreted his meaning.  He 
would consider nearly the entire field of meteoritics stamp 
collecting, and I speaking for myself thoroughly enjoy stamp 
collecting as well as chemistry (Chemistry was his real stamp 
collecting target if you understood the context of the original quote).


To generalize a theory like evolution as circular ignores the reality 
of how every domesticated animal and vegetable got on the dinner plate 
or farm!  It is not only testable; it is applied and practical, though 
not gospel in a scientific sense.  Evolution has been demonstrated and 
is robustly testable, unlike some of the other questions you try to 
compare with it by analogizing.


You are suggesting that we are begging the question, but the analogy 
you use itself attempts to make an inaccurate caricature of the 
scientific method.  The use of the Rutherford attributed quote is 
baloney in its fullest extent - an appeal to a non-existent authority 
and caricature to the extreme to the efforts of others who are using 
the scientific method productively.


I.e., Some topologists really can tell the their coffee mug from their 
donut!


Kindest wishes
Doug






-Original Message-
From: cdtucson cdtuc...@cox.net
To: Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc
Cc: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com

Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - 
CambridgeEncyclopedia  More - AD



Mark, Doug, All.
This chicken or egg question does have an obvious answer because it 
sounds
rather logical whether  you are a believer in evolution or not. In fact 
this

same obvious answer could be used to explain away a few million similar
questions ( other odd things) if you think about it.
It is a particularly good answer if you are involved in the  very 
circular

argument as evolution.
Because it reinforces the argument itself but , in order to be fact 
in science

proof is required. Otherwise it is but a great theory.
I am not arguing against evolution per se. Just saying that sometimes 
it takes
more than a good explanation to make things so. As in all circular 
arguments
there are too many possibly wrong assumptions made to begin with so, it 
is easy
to believe the rest.  A one degree navigation error at the beginning of 
a

journey can lead to a huge mistake.
If for example for whatever reason you believe that meteorites seeded 
the Earth
with life you might lean towards the belief that all odd things came 
from

different meteorites.
Oh and there is the god theory as well. Yet another species of a very 
different

circular argument?

Why must all scientific theories agree with previous theories?
None of us was around back then so it's not like anyone can prove us 
wrong!
Sir Ernest Rutherford said; All science is either physics or stamp 
collecting

This chicken or egg discussion is clearly stamp collecting.

Carl
Meteoritemax

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. 
Liberty

is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.









 Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc wrote:

I'll ignore the debat about the origins of man, but this one:

What came first. The chicken or the egg?

Has a very clear and obvious answer. The egg came first. It just 

wasn't a
chicken's egg - dinosaurs and other egg-laying reptiles were around 
long before

hens :)


Mark Crawford



On 27 Oct 2011, at 00:55, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:

 Sterling,
 Okay.
 I have some real  questions for you.
 What came first. The chicken or the egg?
 Seriously!
 Also, Even if your statements are true.
 Isn't there a missing link between not alive and alive?
 And couldn't man have arrived here as a man and not an ape?
 Why did it take man s long to develop if it derived from the 

soup
already here?

 Thanks,
 Carl





  Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 One. There is NO missing link between Ape and
 Man since human ancestry is a brush or shrub,
 not a tree.

 Two: Lucy is either ONE of many links between
 Ape and Man or One Cousin to one link between
 Ape and Man, of which there are probably dozens
 of so-called species.

 If this is confusing, just tell me WHICH of your great-
 great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents
 (numbering 1024) you are descended from? Or is
 it from ALL of them?

 For example, if you are a non-African, non-Asian
 H. sap, you have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Is
 H. sap

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale - Rare Types - CambridgeEncyclopedia More - AD

2011-10-27 Thread cdtucson