Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-31 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
The main seller of this material have addvise all this
material is not Geidam and analysis its in course for
seen what is it. For the piece I have for sale, I have
removed, its months I not go in the site.

Matteo

--- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 

 Chi Steve wrote:
 
 and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175. 
 I will pay all postage
 and shipping.
 
 Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and
 sometimes things are
 getting out of control.
 
 I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of
 a kinder and gentler
 list where respect is maintained at all reasonable
 times, and I just don't
 feel like getting involved in commercial arguments
 where I have no business
 and correspond with more and more list members who
 all enthused about the
 same wonderful field of Space science that I am. 
 But:
 
 I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation
 has been on too long
 and no one has any reason to perpetuate it.  There
 are at least three
 dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam
 and I understand they are
 all from the some source via a top notch ace of a
 dealer in Alaska who was
 misrepresented by someone near the locality causing
 this.  Alaska was very
 kind to inform that it was a mistake and very
 honorable and reasonable as
 far as I can tell about the whole thing.  Perhaps it
 is another even better
 meteorite locality.  But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys. 
 From Italy to New
 Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained
 about the same thing.
 But Matteo is still selling it!:

http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379
 
 Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat
 AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY our
 community!  I truly hope someone in the know can
 tell me I am dead wrong
 about this locality and at least some of the
 specimens that have hit the
 market in recent months.  I am puzzled why the
 community is not doing a
 better job of policing itself and that hurts my
 confidence in the whole.
 
 Thanks kindly
 Doug
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-30 Thread MexicoDoug
Thank you for crossing out the active GEIDAM for sale ad today, Matteo, on
the meteorite.com classifieds.  Did you contact any buyers from this same
material you offered on eBay about 6 months ago to make correct those as
well?  If you had any customers, please let them all know if you have not
already.  Several months ago I tried to address your meteorite.com ad
quietly by writing to the kind sponsors of that site regarding and nothing
happened although they promised to investigate.  I was sure you'd be
contacted and it would be removed and I was disappointed nothing happened.

I will stop wondering why nothing happened for several months and chalk it
up to an oversight - now that you've kindly and responsibly removed it.  In
Mexico we deal with oversights every day when shopping in corner stores and
the like and we become jaded.  There is a pattern.  The onus for correction
is always on the buyer to say they've been shortchanged, bought something
that is less than it is claimed to be, etc., and to ask for resolution,
which many people simply are too timid or lacking self-confidence to do.
For some reason it never happens that we get extra change when making a
purchase, or we don't get gold when paying for silver (which we would give
back of course).  So if someone does the same thing twice my policy is to
kindly blacklist them and tell all of my friends in confidence to do the
same.  Thanks to Art for the opportunity toair the autumn laundry.

Now this leaves Steve alone, who I hope will follow suite so I can get off
the GEIDAM crusading pulpit.  I am not suggesting anything bad about
inattention or mistakes on Matteo's part, please my respect only goes to him
for cleaning up.  I am suggesting it is not worth anyone's while to ever be
involved in transactions that could be perceived reasonably as questionable.
That's the motivation to remember you have a fake meteorite up for sale on
the major independent commercial meteorite site and need to pull it before
the next Christmas.

PS Matteo, I hope that the fake Geidam meteorite we received is something
else even better, as I have at least 100grams of it and am waiting to hear
back to make my decision as the kind principal dealer offered.  There is
really no need to pass a gato por liebre (how do you say that in English?,
I forgot).  It is some other meteorite just as nice to own.  Good luck
Matteo, too.  If anyone has real specimens from the GEIDAM locality, please
let me know, even if it isn't for sale, I'd love to have the pleasure of a
consolation photo.
Best wishes, Doug

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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]; steve arnold
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?


 The main seller of this material have addvise all this
 material is not Geidam and analysis its in course for
 seen what is it. For the piece I have for sale, I have
 removed, its months I not go in the site.

 Matteo

 --- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

  Chi Steve wrote:
 
  and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.
  I will pay all postage
  and shipping.
 
  Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and
  sometimes things are
  getting out of control.
 
  I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of
  a kinder and gentler
  list where respect is maintained at all reasonable
  times, and I just don't
  feel like getting involved in commercial arguments
  where I have no business
  and correspond with more and more list members who
  all enthused about the
  same wonderful field of Space science that I am.
  But:
 
  I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation
  has been on too long
  and no one has any reason to perpetuate it.  There
  are at least three
  dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam
  and I understand they are
  all from the some source via a top notch ace of a
  dealer in Alaska who was
  misrepresented by someone near the locality causing
  this.  Alaska was very
  kind to inform that it was a mistake and very
  honorable and reasonable as
  far as I can tell about the whole thing.  Perhaps it
  is another even better
  meteorite locality.  But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys.
  From Italy to New
  Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained
  about the same thing.
  But Matteo is still selling it!:
 
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379
 
  Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat
  AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY our
  community!  I truly hope someone in the know can
  tell me I am dead wrong
  about this locality and at least some of the
  specimens that have hit the
  market in recent months.  I am puzzled why the
  community is not doing a
  better job of policing itself and that hurts my
  confidence in the whole.
 
  Thanks kindly
  Doug

[meteorite-list] pieces forsale

2006-10-29 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.I have 3 pieces forsale.I have a 35 gram
sikote-alin forsale with a small hole for $50,I also
have a 60 gram fragment of NWA 2932 for $50 and a 14
gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.I will pay
all postage and shipping.




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AW: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale

2006-10-29 Thread Martin Altmann
Real Geidam or doubtful Geidam?

Regards
Martin

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Betreff: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale

Hi list.I have 3 pieces forsale.I have a 35 gram
sikote-alin forsale with a small hole for $50,I also
have a 60 gram fragment of NWA 2932 for $50 and a 14
gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.I will pay
all postage and shipping.




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BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!!
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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale

2006-10-29 Thread Dave Carothers
What no Ghubara

Dave
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From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale


 Hi list.I have 3 pieces forsale.I have a 35 gram
 sikote-alin forsale with a small hole for $50,I also
 have a 60 gram fragment of NWA 2932 for $50 and a 14
 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.I will pay
 all postage and shipping.




 steve arnold

 Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!!
 BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!!
 Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com






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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale

2006-10-29 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
again, Geidam is not Geidam!

Matteo

--- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto: 

 Hi list.I have 3 pieces forsale.I have a 35 gram
 sikote-alin forsale with a small hole for $50,I also
 have a 60 gram fragment of NWA 2932 for $50 and a 14
 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.I will pay
 all postage and shipping.
 
 
 
 
 steve arnold
 
 Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!!
 BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!!
 Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com
 
 
  


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Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
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Re: Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale

2006-10-29 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:01:11 -0500, you wrote:

What no Ghubara

Maybe there should be a special giveaway of Ghubara blood.  Dab it on a
tissue, possibly?
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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-29 Thread MexicoDoug
Chi Steve wrote:

and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.  I will pay all postage
and shipping.

Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and sometimes things are
getting out of control.

I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of a kinder and gentler
list where respect is maintained at all reasonable times, and I just don't
feel like getting involved in commercial arguments where I have no business
and correspond with more and more list members who all enthused about the
same wonderful field of Space science that I am.  But:

I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation has been on too long
and no one has any reason to perpetuate it.  There are at least three
dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam and I understand they are
all from the some source via a top notch ace of a dealer in Alaska who was
misrepresented by someone near the locality causing this.  Alaska was very
kind to inform that it was a mistake and very honorable and reasonable as
far as I can tell about the whole thing.  Perhaps it is another even better
meteorite locality.  But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys.  From Italy to New
Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained about the same thing.
But Matteo is still selling it!:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379

Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY our
community!  I truly hope someone in the know can tell me I am dead wrong
about this locality and at least some of the specimens that have hit the
market in recent months.  I am puzzled why the community is not doing a
better job of policing itself and that hurts my confidence in the whole.

Thanks kindly
Doug



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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-29 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear Doug;
And...I degress,  NO IMCA  membership on Stteevveeeso, no one 
officially telling him to get cleaned up, so, back to muck and mud 
again, junk in junk out. 
Lest not pick on the poor retard- for the 20th time this year!
Newbies, beware..there are some that are not reputable. Always buy 
from reputable dealers.  Maybe the bad ones will just go away.

DF

MexicoDoug wrote:


Chi Steve wrote:

and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.  I will pay all postage
and shipping.

Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and sometimes things are
getting out of control.

I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of a kinder and gentler
list where respect is maintained at all reasonable times, and I just don't
feel like getting involved in commercial arguments where I have no business
and correspond with more and more list members who all enthused about the
same wonderful field of Space science that I am.  But:

I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation has been on too long
and no one has any reason to perpetuate it.  There are at least three
dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam and I understand they are
all from the some source via a top notch ace of a dealer in Alaska who was
misrepresented by someone near the locality causing this.  Alaska was very
kind to inform that it was a mistake and very honorable and reasonable as
far as I can tell about the whole thing.  Perhaps it is another even better
meteorite locality.  But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys.  From Italy to New
Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained about the same thing.
But Matteo is still selling it!:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379

Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY our
community!  I truly hope someone in the know can tell me I am dead wrong
about this locality and at least some of the specimens that have hit the
market in recent months.  I am puzzled why the community is not doing a
better job of policing itself and that hurts my confidence in the whole.

Thanks kindly
Doug



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[meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-29 Thread Bob Evans
Dear Doug; 
And...I degress, NO IMCA membership on Stteevveeeso, no one 
officially telling him to get cleaned up, so, back to muck and mud 
again, junk in junk out. 
Lest not pick on the poor retard- for the 20th time this year! 
Newbies, beware..there are some that are not reputable. Always buy 
from reputable dealers. Maybe the bad ones will just go away. 
DF 


 retard  what an understatement !
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Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

2006-10-29 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Dave, A really nice listmember just pointed out to me that one of the
excellent dealers from the southwest who fell into the Geidam authenticity
trap had pull his material and made good.  That leaves just Matteo and
Steve.  It looks like an oversight on both of their parts.  That's not
acceptable!

Failure to maintain impeccable standards regarding authenticity hurts
everyone.  You can't run, you can't hide.  Just like AIDS ... just because
someone did something unmentionable with an ape, doesn't mean the dealer
next door can't contract it and unknowingly pass it along to you or me.
IMCA, or no IMCA, that really doesn't solve the problem, Dave, my respects
to the good policies of Association, but in reality there is only one
meteorite supply which we are all swimming in.  If one person taints it - we
all suffer.  There should be no false sense of security since the meteorite
supply has more holes in it than the US border or a wheel of Swiss Cheese.
And not everyone has a Nininger in their pocket to come to the rescue
clarifying this stuff.

This particular unobtrusive type locality, Geidam, just happens to be
setting right smack at the top of my must-really-have list.  I care.  I am
speaking out because I want to be sure when I ever get my dream on this OC,
that it is the real McCoy...er make that REAL GEIDAM (and not some cheesey
phoney Gouda or Edam).
Wishing better yet for the Garden of Eden,
Doug


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From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED];
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?


 Chi Steve wrote:

 and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.  I will pay all
postage
 and shipping.

 Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and sometimes things are
 getting out of control.

 I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of a kinder and gentler
 list where respect is maintained at all reasonable times, and I just don't
 feel like getting involved in commercial arguments where I have no
business
 and correspond with more and more list members who all enthused about the
 same wonderful field of Space science that I am.  But:

 I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation has been on too long
 and no one has any reason to perpetuate it.  There are at least three
 dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam and I understand they
are
 all from the some source via a top notch ace of a dealer in Alaska who was
 misrepresented by someone near the locality causing this.  Alaska was very
 kind to inform that it was a mistake and very honorable and reasonable as
 far as I can tell about the whole thing.  Perhaps it is another even
better
 meteorite locality.  But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys.  From Italy to New
 Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained about the same thing.
 But Matteo is still selling it!:
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379

 Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY
our
 community!  I truly hope someone in the know can tell me I am dead wrong
 about this locality and at least some of the specimens that have hit the
 market in recent months.  I am puzzled why the community is not doing a
 better job of policing itself and that hurts my confidence in the whole.

 Thanks kindly
 Doug



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