Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
uieter and quieter. > >>>> And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms > >>>> kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. > >>>> You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? > >>>> > >>>> Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am > >>>> going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used > >>>> to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, > >>>> research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. > >>>> > >>>> Art > Zuckerberg. > >>>> > >>>> Met-List > Facebook. > >>>> > >>>> No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always > >>>> remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list > >>>> becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards and stay safe! > >>>> > >>>> MikeG > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and > >>>>> engage > >>>>> with > >>>>> the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages > >>>>> between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like > >>>>> content. > >>>>> As > >>>>> such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never > >>>>> have > >>>>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). > >>>>> I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is > >>>>> dead/dying. > >>>>> I > >>>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for > >>>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. > >>>>> However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who > >>>>> cannot > >>>>> or will not change with the times. I believe those members have > >>>>> valuable > >>>>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose > >>>>> what > >>>>> could > >>>>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to > >>>>> use > >>>>> Facebook or other social media platforms. > >>>>> At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the > >>>>> rest of > >>>>> us, > >>>>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left > >>>>> here > >>>>> is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal > >>>>> opinion. > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Roberto V > >>>>> > >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Meteorite-list > on > >>>>> behalf > >>>>> of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM > >>>>> To: Adam Hupe ; metlist > >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos > >>>>> > >>>>> Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being > >>>>> spied > >>>>> on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million > >>>>>> dollars > >>>>>> a day gathering personal information on others. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have never supported his crap and never will. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the > >>>>>> pitfalls > >>>>>> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to > >>>>>> ruin her > >>>>>> social profile. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new > >>>>>> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not > >>>>>> want > >>>>>> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Adam > >>>>>> > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> __ > >>>>> > >>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and > >>>>> the > >>>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > --- > >>>> > >>>> Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com > >>>> Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone > >>>> Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone > >>>> > --- > >>>> > >>>> __ > >>>> > >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > >>>> and the > >>>> > >>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> __ > >>> > >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > >>> and the > >>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > --- > >> > >> Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com > >> Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone > >> Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone > >> > --- > >> > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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ers have valuable > insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could > be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use > Facebook or other social media platforms. > At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, > while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here > is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. > Thanks, > Roberto V > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ____________ > From: Meteorite-list on behalf > of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM > To: Adam Hupe ; metlist > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos > > Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied > on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL > > > > On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > >> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars >> a day gathering personal information on others. >> >> I have never supported his crap and never will. >> >> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls >> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her >> social profile. >> >> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new >> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want >> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. >> >> Adam >> >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies. Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on sundays. "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). " I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. Art > Zuckerberg. Met-List > Facebook. No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. Best regards and stay safe! MikeG On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi all, Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. As such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms. At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. Thanks, Roberto V Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM To: Adam Hupe ; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a day gathering personal information on others. I have never supported his crap and never will. I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social profile. Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. Adam __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagr
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;>> involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this >>>> functionality. >>>> >>>> '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list >>>> is dead/dying. I >>>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for >>>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with >>>>> the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I >>>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for >>>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete." >>>> >>>> Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I >>>> hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that >>>> this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread >>>> psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the >>>> medium itself that created it. >>>> >>>> "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who >>>> cannot >>>>> or will not change with the times. " >>>> >>>> If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon, >>>> and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite >>>> flag proudly. >>>> >>>> " I believe those members have valuable >>>>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what >>>>> could >>>>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to >>>>> use >>>>> Facebook or other social media platforms." >>>> >>>> Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are >>>> trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up >>>> their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an >>>> active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is >>>> not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies. >>>> Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on >>>> sundays. >>>> >>>> "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of >>>> us, >>>>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left >>>>> here >>>>> is so small that it is really just an archive). " >>>> >>>> I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was >>>> exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other >>>> dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were >>>> pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) >>>> singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody >>>> started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. >>>> And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms >>>> kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. >>>> You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? >>>> >>>> Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am >>>> going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used >>>> to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, >>>> research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. >>>> >>>> Art > Zuckerberg. >>>> >>>> Met-List > Facebook. >>>> >>>> No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always >>>> remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list >>>> becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. >>>> >>>> Best regards and stay safe! >>>> >>>> MikeG >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage >>>>> with >>>>> the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages >>>>> between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. >>>>> As >>>>> such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have >>>>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). >>>>> I kind of
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r social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies. Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on sundays. "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). " I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. Art > Zuckerberg. Met-List > Facebook. No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. Best regards and stay safe! MikeG On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi all, Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. As such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms. At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. Thanks, Roberto V Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM To: Adam Hupe ; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a day gathering personal information on others. I have never supported his crap and never will. I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social profile. Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. Adam __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.fa
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>> Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on >> sundays. >> >> "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of >> us, >>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left >>> here >>> is so small that it is really just an archive). " >> >> I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was >> exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other >> dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were >> pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) >> singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody >> started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. >> And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms >> kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. >> You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? >> >> Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am >> going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used >> to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, >> research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. >> >> Art > Zuckerberg. >> >> Met-List > Facebook. >> >> No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always >> remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list >> becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. >> >> Best regards and stay safe! >> >> MikeG >> >> >> On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage >>> with >>> the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages >>> between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. >>> As >>> such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have >>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). >>> I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. >>> I >>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for >>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. >>> However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who >>> cannot >>> or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable >>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what >>> could >>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to >>> use >>> Facebook or other social media platforms. >>> At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of >>> us, >>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left >>> here >>> is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal >>> opinion. >>> Thanks, >>> Roberto V >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> >>> From: Meteorite-list on >>> behalf >>> of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM >>> To: Adam Hupe ; metlist >>> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos >>> >>> Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being >>> spied >>> on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: >>> >>>> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million >>>> dollars >>>> a day gathering personal information on others. >>>> >>>> I have never supported his crap and never will. >>>> >>>> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls >>>> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her >>>> social profile. >>>> >>>> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new >>>> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want >>>> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> __ >>>> >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.co
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How? I didn’t even receive any of these posts. The list is dead. It often takes days for things to show up. Facebook I can show dozens of specimens instantly to thousands of people. I can make them sold instantly. I can upload all the photos and videos I want. Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, June 15, 2020, 3:53 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list wrote: Take it private if you want to argue. On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi Marcin, > > I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I > have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I > just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation > of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites > like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to > control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to > nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It > does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or > civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or > innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality > of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It > needs us. > > = > Nothing personaly ofcourse. > I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I > never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some > persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned > once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not > connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts > You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail > time". It was lesson. > > I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform > but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I > understand. > > > > > This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the > dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media > field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the > Met-List. > > === > me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was > many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without > photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than > TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up > on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read > newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. > > > A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many > do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what > works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to > become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up > and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already > noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. > Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I > think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has > stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be > mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had > their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into > silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and > Amazon. > > To each their own, but long live the List! > MikeG > > > I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in > meteorite group about my new slices. > Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange > that You have used FB before so what happend ? > > Nothing personaly Michael. > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > > > On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > > This is not a good point. You missing it. > > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are > > crap, > > > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You > > go > > > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than > > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic
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Hi Marcin, I don't buy on Amazon, I don't own any Apple products, I own a dumb flip-phone, and my PC runs on Linux. I walk the walk. Stop making generalizations. Not all Americans are dumbasses or hypocrites. The rest of your points I do not take issues with. But, I am also not the one calling another's views "bullshit" or labeling Americans with a broad brush about being hypocrites when ordering Amazon stuff on their iPhones or using Microsoft at home. Some of us are cutting these immoral and unethical companies/services out of our lives to the best of our ability. Best regards, MikeG On 6/15/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > > What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem > with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has > > split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either > > you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the > loop. > > There are few groups worth to look > Meteorites (3800 ppl) > Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason > > Utas > Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy ! > Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou > Polandmet Meteorites (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very > "multimedia" guy > In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members. > > thats enough to be on-line with latest news > But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so > You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see > what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well. > > So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made > > it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same > useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or > whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly > organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like > Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy > > on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really. > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > >> The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. >> The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, >> yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making >> >> the effort to post and contribute. >> >> Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people >> >> don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts >> pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work! >> >> Cheers, >> Mark >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] >> >> On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list >> Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26 >> To: Roberto Vargas >> Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos >> >> HI Roberto, >> >> I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL. >> >> "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage >> with >>> the community." >> >> If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom. >> >> " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have >>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)." >> >> FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on >> any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live >> video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or >> website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed >> on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it >> used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of >> the room. >> >> For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to >> Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just >> involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this >> functionality. >> >> '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list >> is dead/dying. I >>> love the daily
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> What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop. There are few groups worth to look Meteorites (3800 ppl) Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason Utas Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy ! Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou Polandmet Meteorites (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very "multimedia" guy In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members. thats enough to be on-line with latest news But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well. So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making the effort to post and contribute. Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work! Cheers, Mark -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26 To: Roberto Vargas Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos HI Roberto, I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL. "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community." If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom. " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)." FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of the room. For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this functionality. '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete." Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the medium itself that created it. "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. " If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon, and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite flag proudly. " I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and ho
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l now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. Art > Zuckerberg. Met-List > Facebook. No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion. Best regards and stay safe! MikeG On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi all, Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. As such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms. At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. Thanks, Roberto V Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM To: Adam Hupe ; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a day gathering personal information on others. I have never supported his crap and never will. I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social profile. Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. Adam __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop. The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making the effort to post and contribute. Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work! Cheers, Mark -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26 To: Roberto Vargas Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos HI Roberto, I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL. "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with > the community." If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom. " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have > (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)." FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of the room. For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this functionality. '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I > love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for > sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with the > sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I > love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for > sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete." Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the medium itself that created it. "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot > or will not change with the times. " If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon, and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite flag proudly. " I believe those members have valuable > insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could > be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use > Facebook or other social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies. Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on sundays. "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, > while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here > is so small that it is really just an archive). " I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates, research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc. Art > Zuckerberg. Met-List > Facebook. No matter what ends up happenin
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se they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use > Facebook or other social media platforms. > At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, > while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here > is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. > Thanks, > Roberto V > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ____________ > From: Meteorite-list on behalf > of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM > To: Adam Hupe ; metlist > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos > > Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied > on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL > > > > On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > >> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars >> a day gathering personal information on others. >> >> I have never supported his crap and never will. >> >> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls >> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her >> social profile. >> >> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new >> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want >> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. >> >> Adam >> >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi all, Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. As such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc). I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete. However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms. At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion. Thanks, Roberto V Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM To: Adam Hupe ; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a > day gathering personal information on others. > > I have never supported his crap and never will. > > I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and > is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social > profile. > > Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new > flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some > idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. > > Adam > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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There's something out there called the MetList. And it is ... ... alive ^^ Cheers, Matthias Am 15.06.2020 um 00:39 schrieb Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list: Hello, several classifiers are adding BSE images now: https://tinyurl.com/ydd9w6g7 Why not add some thin section photos in PPL and XPL too?! Even rusty chondrites look interesting in thin section! ;-) Cheers, Peter Am 14.06.2020 um 22:48 schrieb Jean Alix Barrat via Meteorite-list : Hello, it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a false good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be studied by anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who is interested in ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science will be brought by these samples? Is it really important to complicate the work of the classifiers for these samples? Who will agree to do this work if the procedure becomes even more demanding? Cheers, Jean-Alix Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit : I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen…. Excellent idea, Marcin! It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the meteorite world takes place! Cheers, Peter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Carl, List, Yes, many of us would love to see pictures and even the 'movies' you've posted in the past of Black beauty (magic from inside the material) are a sight to behold. Please show us more and more. Carl Esparza > On June 14, 2020 at 6:05 PM Carl Agee via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > > I have started to add photos and sometimes graphs or figures for > exceptional samples to MetBull classifications. I agree that photos of > garden variety equilibrated OCs might not be that interesting, but > sometimes they are. For me it is no extra work to post photos since I > always have microprobe BSE images and smartphone photos of the deposit > sample. I certainly agree that added value to the MetBull is a plus. > > Carl > > * > Carl B. Agee > President, Consortium for Materials Properties Research in Earth > Sciences (COMPRES) > Director, Institute of Meteoritics > Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences > MSC03 2050 > University of New Mexico > Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 > > Tel: (505) 750-7172 > Fax: (505) 277-3577 > Email: a...@unm.edu > http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ > http://compres.unm.edu/about-us/compres-president > > * > Carl B. Agee > President, Consortium for Materials Properties Research in Earth > Sciences (COMPRES) > Director, Institute of Meteoritics > Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences > MSC03 2050 > University of New Mexico > Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 > > Tel: (505) 750-7172 > Fax: (505) 277-3577 > Email: a...@unm.edu > http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ > http://compres.unm.edu/about-us/compres-president > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Jean Alix Barrat via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > > > [EXTERNAL] > > > > Hello, > > > > it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a > > false good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be > > studied by anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who > > is interested in ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science > > will be brought by these samples? Is it really important to complicate > > the work of the classifiers for these samples? Who will agree to do this > > work if the procedure becomes even more demanding? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jean-Alix > > > > Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit : > > > > > >> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new > > >> classification should include few photos of specimen…. > > > Excellent idea, Marcin! > > > > > > It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the > > > newly classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! > > > > > > https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 > > > > > > BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the > > > meteorite world takes place! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Peter > > > __ > > > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > > > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Love & Life __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
lIST,I have never left the met-list . I see it every morning and still enjoy it. Every once in a while someone posts something interesting on it. Just the other day Dolores Hill used it to invite all of us to an osiris event. I do miss the action from the past here but, facebook more than makes up for it. Just as much drama and excitement as this list used to have. Seems to be room for both. Some of the newbies like Topher keep facebook fun. Carl Esparza > On June 14, 2020 at 1:46 PM Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > > Hi Marcin, > > I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I > have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I > just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation > of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites > like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to > control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to > nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It > does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or > civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or > innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality > of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It > needs us. > > = > Nothing personaly ofcourse. > I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I > never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some > persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned > once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not > connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts > You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail > time". It was lesson. > > I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform > but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I > understand. > > > > > This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the > dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media > field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the > Met-List. > > === > me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was > many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without > photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than > TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up > on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read > newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. > > > A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many > do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what > works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to > become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up > and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already > noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. > Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I > think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has > stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be > mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had > their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into > silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and > Amazon. > > To each their own, but long live the List! > MikeG > > > I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in > meteorite group about my new slices. > Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange > that You have used FB before so what happend ? > > Nothing personaly Michael. > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > > > On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > > This is not a good point. You missing it. > > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are > > crap, > > > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You > > go > > > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than > > Your phone ?
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hello, several classifiers are adding BSE images now: https://tinyurl.com/ydd9w6g7 Why not add some thin section photos in PPL and XPL too?! Even rusty chondrites look interesting in thin section! ;-) Cheers, Peter > Am 14.06.2020 um 22:48 schrieb Jean Alix Barrat via Meteorite-list > : > > Hello, > > it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a > false good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be studied > by anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who is > interested in ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science will be > brought by these samples? Is it really important to complicate the work of > the classifiers for these samples? Who will agree to do this work if the > procedure becomes even more demanding? > > Cheers, > > Jean-Alix > > Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit : >> >>> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification >>> should include few photos of specimen…. >> Excellent idea, Marcin! >> >> It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly >> classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! >> >> https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 >> >> BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the >> meteorite world takes place! >> >> Cheers, >> Peter >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being spied on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a > day gathering personal information on others. > > I have never supported his crap and never will. > > I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and > is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social > profile. > > Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new > flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some > idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. > > Adam > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million dollars a day gathering personal information on others. I have never supported his crap and never will. I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her social profile. Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR. Adam __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hi Marcin and others, I also don't like any of the social media groups and if dealers, collectors and buyers want to know what I am selling they have to come here or to me. My problem is our meteorite community keeps moving things around (probably for commercial reasons) rather than actually having a consistent center to simply discuss meteorites. So my vote is to have discussions here. I'd like to pledge some more commitment to posting here once in a while (one or two times per month?). Also if we can put our petty differences aside and simply discuss meteorites, we can have an enjoyable forum here. We don't have to always agree or disagree, but respectful discussion can go a long way to bringing more people into the hobby, unlike the past which drove people away.f My two chondrules. --AL Mitterling Quoting Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list : Hello list I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead ? Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about meteorites and thousand of users. I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main mass holder. When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice I just bough look like reference photo. Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc. I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good will -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
I have started to add photos and sometimes graphs or figures for exceptional samples to MetBull classifications. I agree that photos of garden variety equilibrated OCs might not be that interesting, but sometimes they are. For me it is no extra work to post photos since I always have microprobe BSE images and smartphone photos of the deposit sample. I certainly agree that added value to the MetBull is a plus. Carl * Carl B. Agee President, Consortium for Materials Properties Research in Earth Sciences (COMPRES) Director, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ http://compres.unm.edu/about-us/compres-president * Carl B. Agee President, Consortium for Materials Properties Research in Earth Sciences (COMPRES) Director, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ http://compres.unm.edu/about-us/compres-president On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Jean Alix Barrat via Meteorite-list wrote: > > [EXTERNAL] > > Hello, > > it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a > false good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be > studied by anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who > is interested in ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science > will be brought by these samples? Is it really important to complicate > the work of the classifiers for these samples? Who will agree to do this > work if the procedure becomes even more demanding? > > Cheers, > > Jean-Alix > > Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit : > > > >> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification > >> should include few photos of specimen…. > > Excellent idea, Marcin! > > > > It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly > > classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! > > > > https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 > > > > BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the > > meteorite world takes place! > > > > Cheers, > > Peter > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hello, it could be a good idea to include some pictures. However, it could be a false good idea. Most meteorites are not spectacular and will not be studied by anyone other than those who make the initial description. Who is interested in ordinary rusty chondrites? What outstanding science will be brought by these samples? Is it really important to complicate the work of the classifiers for these samples? Who will agree to do this work if the procedure becomes even more demanding? Cheers, Jean-Alix Le 14/06/2020 à 20:55, Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list a écrit : I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen…. Excellent idea, Marcin! It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the meteorite world takes place! Cheers, Peter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen…. Excellent idea, Marcin! It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the meteorite world takes place! Cheers, Peter= = Yes thats what is my intention.Im surprized I didnt get that idea before. I have tryed tooday using EoM but its made for completly different purpose, it accept low resolution photos and its external website. I have right now newly classified meteorite Northwest Africa 13337 (467 g, Mesosiderite) It will be test if all 13 photos will be accepted and submited with it to Met Bull. If it go through, I will do it with every next classification and hopefully some other dealers will follow. But Im affraid many will not like to publish their specimens or they dont care. If they must show all necesary information to submit their specimens, they should also care to submit required reference material photo. Not becouse Cimala want to see what Mr Farmer bought. I can read it in classification. Its for reference and also hey, do we collecting DATA or we collecting meteorites. I want to be able to watch classified 50kg lunar even if I dont care who got it or I dont have need to own it. But this could be pleasure to see its photos and learn about it something more than geochemical data. Most meteorites sink somewhere and we will never see them again. Or they will be cut and be destroyed that way forever becouse noone saved photos of them, Lets start revolution :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification > should include few photos of specimen…. Excellent idea, Marcin! It exists for many mets from Antarctica already! Why not for all the newly classified mets? Including thin section photos!!! https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78 BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the meteorite world takes place! Cheers, Peter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
It never ceases to amaze me ... someone floats a 'controversial' idea, implying they want input ... and when that input does NOT necessarily agree with their original idea, act totally offended! At such a point, I must ask, why? Why did you ask for 'input'? -Original Message- >From: Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list > >Sent: Jun 14, 2020 12:07 PM >To: >Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos > >sorry, end of bullshit :) >I go back to Facebook >Stay safe in silence. > >-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- >http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl >http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com >[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > >Take it private if you want to argue. > > > > > > >On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > >> Hi Marcin, >> >> I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I >> have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I >> just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation >> of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites >> like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to >> control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to >> nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It >> does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or >> civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or >> innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality >> of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It >> needs us. >> >> = >> Nothing personaly ofcourse. >> I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I >> never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some >> persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h >> banned >> once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was >> not >> connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political >> posts >> You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail >> time". It was lesson. >> >> I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly >> platform >> but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I >> understand. >> >> >> >> >> This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the >> dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media >> field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the >> Met-List. >> >> === >> me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it >> was >> many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but >> without >> photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than >> TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its >> up >> on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read >> newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. >> >> >> A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many >> do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what >> works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to >> become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up >> and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already >> noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. >> Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I >> think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has >> stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be >> mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had >> their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into >> silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and >> Amazon. >> >> To each their own, but long live the List! >> MikeG >> >> >> I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in >> meteorite group about my new slices. >> Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange >> that You have used FB before so what happend ? >> >> Nothing personaly Michael. >> >>
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hi Marcin, I used FB for about 11 years and just got tired of it and the atmosphere. I had a good run there for about the first five years. Then a long period of love-hate relationship with it. Then it just soured and I saw no reason to keep it going. The long slow stagnation of this list has been painful to watch. There used to be so much active discussion on a variety of planetary science topics. So many eloquent contributors have drifted away or gone silent over the years. Where is Sterling Webb? Where did Ron Baalke's clockwork posts go? What happened to the buzz of activity that would happen after a new fall? Much of it went to FB. And why? For photos? People are free to link to a Flickr, Google, or other cloud service to share their photos. Uploading photos to the cloud or a website takes the same amount of time and effort as uploading to FB. The only different on a text-only list is the necessity of clicking a link and opening a new browser tab/window. My point is, FB is a creeping insidious giant gobbling up more and more internet real estate and bandwidth. And it's motives (from the top) are not benign. We need more independent venues like this one as alternatives to the monolithic corporate playground offered to us for "free". I am sorry you think this is paranoid bullshit. There are a lot of facts out there on the web about Zuckerberg, his politics, and his motives. Google Cambridge Analytica or just Zuckerberg in general and read some articles about his business practices and character. It's something I choose not to be a part of. And I am not doing it out of some sense of activism, thinking I will somehow change FB by leaving. Indeed, I am leaving to keep it from changing me. I am better off without it and I am thankful we have the Met-List and other forums to talk about meteorites in. Best regards, MikeG On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > Hi Marcin, > > I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I > have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I > just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation > of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites > like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to > control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to > nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It > does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or > civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or > innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality > of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It > needs us. > > = > Nothing personaly ofcourse. > I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I > never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some > persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned > > once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not > > connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts > > You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail > time". It was lesson. > > I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform > > but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I > understand. > > > > > This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the > dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media > field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the > Met-List. > > === > me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was > > many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without > > photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than > TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up > > on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read > newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. > > > A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many > do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what > works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to > become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up > and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already > noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. > Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I > think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has > stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be > mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had > their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into > silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and > Amazon. > > To each their own, but long live the List! >
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
sorry, end of bullshit :) I go back to Facebook Stay safe in silence. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Take it private if you want to argue. On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi Marcin, I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It needs us. = Nothing personaly ofcourse. I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail time". It was lesson. I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I understand. This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the Met-List. === me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and Amazon. To each their own, but long live the List! MikeG I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in meteorite group about my new slices. Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange that You have used FB before so what happend ? Nothing personaly Michael. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > This is not a good point. You missing it. > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are > crap, > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or > You > go > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better > than > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, > unpug > Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. > > My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it > is > > like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite > groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in
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Hi Marcin, I don't do facebook either. When it first started I was on it for 3 months and didn't care for it so I found out how to permanently delete my account and never looked back. For one thing it's one of the most insecure sites on the internet. How many times a year do I read or hear about some security issue(s) with it? And there just so much nonsense on it as well. It's not for me. I prefer this list and/or perhaps a web site dedicated to meteorites. Then again I've never been a trend/fad follower. "But everybody is on facebook!" So what?! Again some generalities... How its insecure? If You are affraid of Your privacy, make account with new Gmail, fake personal informations, no family photos, fake phone number, so what then You lose if Putin hackers steal Your personal data ? :D Your smartphone, Your credit card or mailbox in front of Your house is much easier to hack and contain more info than FB account will ever have. So how it is insecure? This is nonsense. I choose not to use facebook. Just like I choose TV shows or movies I watch. If the list moves to facebook I'm out. Not that I'm a major player in the world of meteorites or anything, I'm just a low level, meager collector. I can ensure You that what "YOU ARE FORCED" to watch in TV is much bigger bullshit than what "You can choose Yourself" on FB. Maybe "everyone" are alredy there from months. Thats why there are only Meteorites of the Day posts. Sorry but its above my understanding level. Maybe someone can explain me whats wrong with disscusing meteorites on meteorite group without hate, rasism, politics and stupid comments. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Tom On 6/14/20 10:54 AM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: This is not a good point. You missing it. Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy newspapers You think are worth Your money. Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to watch for informations You want to see. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Take it private if you want to argue. On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi Marcin, > > I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I > have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I > just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation > of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites > like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to > control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to > nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It > does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or > civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or > innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality > of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It > needs us. > > = > Nothing personaly ofcourse. > I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I > never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some > persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned > once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not > connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts > You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail > time". It was lesson. > > I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform > but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I > understand. > > > > > This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the > dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media > field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the > Met-List. > > === > me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was > many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without > photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than > TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up > on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read > newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. > > > A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many > do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what > works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to > become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up > and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already > noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. > Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I > think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has > stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be > mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had > their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into > silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and > Amazon. > > To each their own, but long live the List! > MikeG > > > I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in > meteorite group about my new slices. > Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange > that You have used FB before so what happend ? > > Nothing personaly Michael. > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > > > On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > > This is not a good point. You missing it. > > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are > > crap, > > > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You > > go > > > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than > > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug > > Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. > > > > My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it > > is > > > > like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite > > groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I > > want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. >
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Hi Marcin, I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It needs us. = Nothing personaly ofcourse. I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail time". It was lesson. I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I understand. This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the Met-List. === me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and Amazon. To each their own, but long live the List! MikeG I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in meteorite group about my new slices. Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange that You have used FB before so what happend ? Nothing personaly Michael. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: This is not a good point. You missing it. Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy newspapers You think are worth Your money. Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are crap, You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You go to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it is like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery channels, National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news channels or some other crap things in TV. Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will tell Zuckenberg about You ? That
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Hi Marcin, I don't do facebook either. When it first started I was on it for 3 months and didn't care for it so I found out how to permanently delete my account and never looked back. For one thing it's one of the most insecure sites on the internet. How many times a year do I read or hear about some security issue(s) with it? And there just so much nonsense on it as well. It's not for me. I prefer this list and/or perhaps a web site dedicated to meteorites. Then again I've never been a trend/fad follower. "But everybody is on facebook!" So what?! I choose not to use facebook. Just like I choose TV shows or movies I watch. If the list moves to facebook I'm out. Not that I'm a major player in the world of meteorites or anything, I'm just a low level, meager collector. Tom On 6/14/20 10:54 AM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: This is not a good point. You missing it. Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy newspapers You think are worth Your money. Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to watch for informations You want to see. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hi Marcin, I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It needs us. This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the Met-List. A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and Amazon. To each their own, but long live the List! MikeG On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET wrote: > This is not a good point. You missing it. > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are crap, > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You go > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug > Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. > > My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it is > > like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite > groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I > want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. > Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery channels, > > National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news channels > > or some other crap things in TV. > > Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 > valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will tell > > Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I > dont think soo. > > Think about this > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > > > >> Hi Marcin and List, >> >> Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because >> Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing. >> This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that >> spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive >> algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior >> that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account >> and couldn't be happier about it. >> >> Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I >> will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin >> approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook. >> >> Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> >> >> >> On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> Hello list >>> I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list >>> dead >>> >>> ? >>> Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet >>> Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info >>> about >>> meteorites and thousand of users. >>> >>> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new >>> classification >>> should
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
This is not a good point. You missing it. Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy newspapers You think are worth Your money. Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are crap, You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You go to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it is like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery channels, National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news channels or some other crap things in TV. Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will tell Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I dont think soo. Think about this -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Hi Marcin and List, Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing. This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account and couldn't be happier about it. Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook. Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg. Best regards, MikeG On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: Hello list I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead ? Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about meteorites and thousand of users. I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main mass holder. When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice I just bough look like reference photo. Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc. I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good will -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram :
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hi Marcin and List, Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing. This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account and couldn't be happier about it. Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook. Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg. Best regards, MikeG On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hello list > I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead > > ? > Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet > Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about > meteorites and thousand of users. > > I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification > should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but > > reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main > > mass holder. > > When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos > > of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This > will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice > > I just bough look like reference photo. > > Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they > stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in > Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look > > like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone > with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of > incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for > everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in > Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative > photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats > the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to > prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested > informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc. > > I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good > will > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
