Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Webb and Larry

2007-05-29 Thread Martin Altmann
Great list rule suitable for   a l l   parties from King James Version.
Proverbs 26:4  
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Back to stones, please!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Webb and Larry

2007-05-29 Thread Trace
This is a place for discussing meteorites and meteorite related topics. I, for 
one, do not like to be lectured to on non-meteorite topics.

This is NOT the place.

Trace


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Merry 
  To: meteorite-list
  Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:23 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Mr. Webb and Larry


  Dear Mr. Webb and Larry (I'm sorry I do not know your last name),

  Let me preface this by saying that I really don't care how anyone 
believes...it is your choice/freedom to believe in what or who you want.  If 
you want the One Omnicient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent God to be Who you believe 
in, as I do, then that is your choice; if you want man-made science (some of 
which is right and some of which is so ridiculous as to not make a good comic 
book) then that is your choice.  I do have a problem when people, so heady and 
high-minded, who set themselves up to know so much, put down Christians.  I 
will say the park these two gentlemen are so passionate in discussing and 
putting down, seems too me, to lead back to a dislike of Christians, at least 
from how they are putting down the God and the Bible contained in their 
postings--that I have a problem with.  If you don't like the park, don't go 
there, but do have a little respect for what others believe. In fact, there is 
alot of these viewpoints and beliefs in Christianity that I don't agree with 
and this park is not somewhere I would go.  But, just because Christians/myself 
don't fall down and worship your god of science, and don't see the world as you 
do, and don't believe that man came from whatever sludge dwelling animal, 
amoeba or whatever you now  believe to be our ancestrial mommy and daddy, we 
are not heretics, nor simple minded idiots.  No, in fact we believe in Someone 
so far over your head, that your beliefs are foolishness.  To paraphrase a 
verse in the Bible the foolishness of God is wisdom to men as well as the 
wisdom of men being foolishness to God.  As far as I go, I am Apostolic 
Pentecostal, believing in Jesus Name baptism and speaking in tongues (please 
reference the King James Version of the Bible in the Book of Acts 2:38-39) to 
see where my beliefs come from.  No, I don't believe in handling snakes! :-)  
So, to what I was wanting to address in regards to Mr. Webb and Larry...

  I have been reading your recent postings in the Meteorite list, and I find 
you two to be sort of sad individuals from the standpoint of how you two are 
making fun of Christians, their belief in Creation, the Bible and by extention 
Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh.  You have the freedom say what you want 
to, and so do I, so here it goes.  I would first have to ask you two do you 
really know how it all began?  You have have your ever changing theories and 
observations and so on, but are you so sure to the point of betting your soul 
on it?  Larry you make fun of Noah's Ark and about putting dinosaurs on it and 
how big a cubit is.  As learned a man as you obviously are, since you teach 
Astronomy, because of your belief in your god of science, you  make fun of the 
Flood and how it made the Grand Canyon.  (As an aside, I don't know and don't 
care if the Flood made the Grand Canyon, nor if there were dinosaurs on the 
Ark, nor do I care how many angels can dance on the head of a pin).  Are you so 
learned that you can prove or disprove the presence of the true living God and 
God's word as written in the Bible?  Do it, I dare ya.  Your answer will 
probably consist of, well, (clears throat and answers in the most scientific, 
high-minded voice an Ivy League Institution can produce) that falls in the 
realm of faith and spirtualism for which we cannot observe or record data.  It 
is not testable, I cannot weigh it, taste it or put acid on it, therefore it 
does not and cannot exist.  Oh, yes and feelings don't count.  I dare say, 
maybe you and many like you two are afraid that possibly the true living God 
exists and that you may have to answer to Him some day.  So, if you don't 
believe in Him and try to dismiss Him, then He's not there.  How blind you are. 
 

  Yes, you two have your religion and that is science, believing that things 
come into being on a radom hit and miss basis, with no rhyme or reason and no 
control other than that all ecompassing term called Nature.  Did you ever 
consider, dear gentlemen, that there is a Being beyond your paltry fleshly 
understanding, that is infinite in understanding making your finite 
understanding nothing more that the babblings of a idiot.  So, what is wrong 
with people having a belief in God?  Does that scare you high-minded folks?

  Now, onto the quotes from which I was inspired to write this.  

  Here is a direct quote from Mr. Webb in his recent Meteorite list posting:

  I wonder if they've got a diorama where Adam wrastles The
   Raptor? That would be entertainment! I sure hope they've taken
   all the appropriate precautions to ensure those big 

Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Webb and Larry

2007-05-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:23:03 -0400, you wrote:

These stupid things you two individuals have posted, due to your arrogance and 
conceit,  would almost be angering, if not for the fact that it is sad that 
you have so little regard for the God of Creation who made you and later, 
Jesus Christ (Jehovah Salvation) who died for all of mankind's sins--yours and 
mine.  Additionally, you are threatend by the existence of Christians and our 
faith and belief in God.  There is no salvation and no absolutes in science, 
only questions that have temporary answers that continue to be disproven and 
somebody has to come up with a new answer.  But with God, you need look no 
further, he is the Answer.

Let's face it, when I die and if I'm wrong, I've got nothing to loose, but Mr. 
Webb and Larry, when you guys die and go out to eternity and find out I'm 
right (whoopsie! :-0) and you have to meet the God you mocked and made fun 
ofwell to quote Homer Simpson, Duh-ah!!!.  That is terrifying.  

I wouldn't have written the above but for the ignorance of two.  

I proudly take responsiblity for the contents of the above and if you don't 
like it, blame Mr. Webb and Larry. 


Having read only this single post from you, I can say without fear of
contradiction that both Mr. Webb and Larry have long ago forgotten more than
you will ever know.  ESPECIALLY illustrated by your apparent impression that you
are being clever by throwing Pascal's wager at people who probably could point
out the logical flaws in it while you were still in diapers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager
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