RE: Modern mail archive layout using mhonarc

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Stragand
As they say, "me three".

-Original Message-
From: owner-mhonarc-us...@mhonarc.org
[mailto:owner-mhonarc-us...@mhonarc.org] On Behalf Of Dave Dewey
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:33 PM
To: mhonarc-users@mhonarc.org
Subject: Re: Modern mail archive layout using mhonarc

Quoting Ngieen Siao-Mak (ngi...@gmail.com):

> 
>Make it a commercial version! I am sure $$ is a good motivation!
;_))

I would support this also.  Mhonarc is a critical part of my user
community, but it's getting creaky.  It definitely would be worth
paying for to have something with better integration into other
platforms and has a better search interface.



Re: Modern mail archive layout using mhonarc

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Ngieen Siao-Mak (ngi...@gmail.com):

> 
>Make it a commercial version! I am sure $$ is a good motivation! ;_))

I would support this also.  Mhonarc is a critical part of my user
community, but it's getting creaky.  It definitely would be worth
paying for to have something with better integration into other
platforms and has a better search interface.



Re: Modern mail archive layout using mhonarc

2009-02-25 Thread Ngieen Siao-Mak
Thank you Earl;


> Not sure if this will help you, but years ago, I did a custom job for
> Cisco to support the generation of a "discussion" pages.


Is there a working demo of the layout?



> I was hoping to modify the work and repackage it for a more general
> audience, but never did it.  However, for those interested, your
> can download the custom script at the following location:
>
>

>
> BTW, the core, venerable code base of mhonarc makes certain things
> difficult, especially functionality that implies a more dynamic nature.
> And scalability is a problem for large archives.  Mhonarc is a good
> example of a program that has out-grown its original intentions :)



Mailing lists and webarchive are still *hot* . the dynamics are better than
the forums as we visit the users (via email) rather than waiting for the
users to login to the forums. I am sure that with a modern utility to
archive the mailing list more will be using it rather than changing to web
boards... I would pay for a good mail list archive utility.


>
> I've considered numerous times to redesign and re-implement mhonarc,
> but there has been little motivation to do so.  The work will take
> a non-trivial amount of time, and I have other priorities.
>

Make it a commercial version! I am sure $$ is a good motivation! ;_))


Re: Modern mail archive layout using mhonarc

2009-02-22 Thread Earl Hood
On February 23, 2009 at 11:54, Ngieen Siao-Mak wrote:

> Did anyone try to layout a mail archive with features and layout that are
> similar to Google Groups? Is it possible? What does it required?

Not sure if this will help you, but years ago, I did a custom job for
Cisco to support the generation of a "discussion" pages.  These were
pages that contain all the messages of a thread.  The nature of
the contract allowed me to do the work under the GPL, so I can
redistribute it.

I was hoping to modify the work and repackage it for a more general
audience, but never did it.  However, for those interested, your
can download the custom script at the following location:

  http://www.mhonarc.org/cisco/

v0.2.3 was the last version done.  Documentation is provided
describing how it works.  The mha-cisco script is a good example
of utilizing the simple API mhonarc provides to extend it functionality.

BTW, the core, venerable code base of mhonarc makes certain things
difficult, especially functionality that implies a more dynamic nature.
And scalability is a problem for large archives.  Mhonarc is a good
example of a program that has out-grown its original intentions :)

Work-arounds do exist to work with scalability issues, but they
can vary depending on the operating model one wants to achieve.

I've considered numerous times to redesign and re-implement mhonarc,
but there has been little motivation to do so.  The work will take
a non-trivial amount of time, and I have other priorities.

--ewh