[uf-discuss] hCard Markup for Office Hours

2007-01-23 Thread Jeremy Boggs
Hi, I'm trying to mark up my office hours for my online course syllabus using hCalendar. My office hours are every Tuesday and Thursday, 3-5PM (until May 10, the end of the semester). I have used the following hCalendar markup: Office Hours Tuesday, title="20070123T170

[uf-discuss] Authoritative hCards [was RE: Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)]

2007-01-23 Thread Joe Andrieu
Tantek Ç elik wrote > On 1/23/07 3:51 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think identifying pointers > > to a canonical source of data is a broader problem, as copying and > > manipulating data between sites is a standard activity on the web. > > Agreed. However I find that the s

[uf-discuss] moving "latitude longitude shorthand" from brainstorming to geo, hCard

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
A while ago it was brainstormed that we allow a single text string to contain a geo lat long coordinate: To date there are now several examples in the wild using that syntax successfully in their content, as well as

Re: [uf-discuss] rel="pavatar"

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 4:12 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> It's been listed as a "rejected microformat": >> >> >> >> though I can find no such rejection, by this community. Perhaps

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 3:51 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> Document Examples in the Wild first of people linking to their and >> others' >> hCards, and that will drive the scope of the solution. > > Does this need to be limited to hCard?

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Document Examples in the Wild first of people linking to their and others' hCards, and that will drive the scope of the solution. Does this need to be limited to hCard? I think identifying pointers to a canonical source of data is a broader

Re: [uf-discuss] rel="pavatar"

2007-01-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: It's been listed as a "rejected microformat": though I can find no such rejection, by this community. Perhaps someone can give a reference? On Dec 28, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Paul Bryson wro

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
Ara, the point is that with rel/rev in particular, it has confused *even the people that are supposed to be experts*. As Ryan points out, I myself got it wrong when I initially proposed to Kevin Marks that we use 'rel' for VoteLinks instead of their initial idea of using a new HTML attribute 'vot

[uf-discuss] Geo- extension (Luna. Mars) proposal updated

2007-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
I have received a series of helpful comments on the Geo-extension proposal: from Brent A. Archinal, Geodesist with the Astrogeology Team of the U.S. Geological Survey With his permission, I've added them to the above page. I've also

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 1:05 PM, "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/23/07, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David Janes, you're right, we need to solve this problem. >> >> I did some research on examples in the wild and possible approaches here: >> >>

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread David Janes
On 1/23/07, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Janes, you're right, we need to solve this problem. I did some research on examples in the wild and possible approaches here: Please take a look and add yo

Re: [uf-discuss] rel="pavatar"

2007-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there no interrest in such a microformat like rel="pavatar"? It's been listed as a "rejected microformat": though I can find no such reje

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 12:15 PM, "Ara Pehlivanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wouldn't call people 'thick' just because they don't understand the >> difference between @rev and @rel. I've seen numerous people (myself >> included) mistake the two. Hey Tantek, why don't you tell everyone >> the story about

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 10:22 AM, "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Continuing the tradition of riffing off other threads to talk about > what's on my mind... > > On 1/23/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It's not a full CSS selector based search engine, but http:// >> kitchen.technorat

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
I understand that the attributes, as defined specify the direction of the relationship. However, it has been found in practice that people confuse these and misuse the two attributes. So, that ambiguity is already there in practice, but not reflected in the specification. HTML5 is a step towards h

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: I disagree. First of all, you don't need both @rel and @rev for votelinks. Right now you just need @rev to declare votes. Linking in the opposite direction doesn't add anything, as it is a 3rd party assertion (or hearsay). Secondly, if peopl

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
I disagree. First of all, you don't need both @rel and @rev for votelinks. Right now you just need @rev to declare votes. Linking in the opposite direction doesn't add anything, as it is a 3rd party assertion (or hearsay). Secondly, if people can't figure out how to use it properly, they'll use

[uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread David Janes
Continuing the tradition of riffing off other threads to talk about what's on my mind... On 1/23/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's not a full CSS selector based search engine, but http:// kitchen.technorati.com/contacts/search/tantek. Wouldn't it be great if there was a well defi

Re: [uf-discuss] Search on CSS element (was: Making Microformats Searchable)

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
on Jan 22, 2007, at 2:21 AM, David Janes wrote: Last week in Boston we were discussing Pingerati and "how do you find microformats" (in general). One passing idea I had was that search engines should supply a CSS element selector. So for example, to find Tantek's hCard we could search "tantek cs

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel="voted-for"

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: This is a very, very common mistake. So common, in fact, that the current HTML5 draft drops @rev. In the interest of keeping vote-links future compatible, we should rely on using both rel and rev. See the rel-faq [http://microformats.org/wiki/

Re: [uf-discuss] A dtstamp property for the geo microtag

2007-01-23 Thread Dimitrios Zachariadis
Brian, thank you very much for your reply. > --- i think you need to ask, "is the currently being > published in this > way", and does it need to be examined to find the > current publishing habits? You are right. The question is "is the current publishing method adequate for" getting an one cl

Re: [uf-discuss] A dtstamp property for the geo microtag

2007-01-23 Thread Brian Suda
On 1/23/07, Dimitrios Zachariadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all I was wondering if there is any reason to avoid using the hCalendar "dtstamp" property inside a geo microtag. --- depends. I'm not sure what you are trying to do? There is also a REV property in vCard and a LAST-MODIFIED in