Re: [uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Toby Inkster wrote: Andy Mabbett's proposed data: prefix already solves the abbr design pattern accessibility issue Andy made an honest stab at solving the issue; I don't think his proposal is workable however. In so far as end-users want to be able to ignore the data: 1. It requires

[uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Toby A Inkster
If the problem is 'machine readable dates get read out sometimes' I don't see how the data: prefix solves that. Screen readers may be configured to read out the title attribute for abbr and acronym; perhaps also a and img. But they don't automatically read out the contents of the title

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Adam Craven - Four Shapes
I'm wondering, can you also configure screen readers to expand out titles on any elements? Adam On 17 May 2008, at 22:46, Toby A Inkster wrote: If the problem is 'machine readable dates get read out sometimes' I don't see how the data: prefix solves that. Screen readers may be configured

[uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Toby A Inkster
I'm wondering, can you also configure screen readers to expand out titles on any elements? Not any of which I'm aware. There is a good article on this issue here: http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/WE05/forms.html -- Toby A Inkster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Jim O'Donnell
On 17 May 2008, at 23:14, Adam Craven - Four Shapes wrote: I'm wondering, can you also configure screen readers to expand out titles on any elements? Not as far as I'm aware. Titles may be read out for links, images, form elements and abbreviations and that's about it. I definitely

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-17 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Toby A Inkster wrote: Not any of which I'm aware. There is a good article on this issue here: http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/WE05/forms.html Be warned that the data presented there is very old. While there are plenty of people still using such old AT, Home Page Reader is no