Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 09.07.09 10:15, "Martin McEvoy" wrote: > Hello all > > I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means? > I have always thought 'h' was for 'hypertext' but could it mean > 'hypermedia' or even 'html' > > perhaps it means nothing? my guess: it stands for that certain gr

Re: [uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-07-08 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, 10 SEC SUMMARY split hRecipe vocabulary in an essential core set (mostly self-defined) and additional 'suggestions' (all re-used from other vocabularies) INTRO I did some homework on the hRecipe page like correcting examples and removing superfluous references, but now I'm trying to get b

Re: [uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 26.06.09 01:40, "Stephen Paul Weber" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Somebody claiming to be Thomas Loertsch wrote: >> On 24.06.09 16:23, "Brian Suda" wrote: >> >>> You should add this to the Wiki under the

Re: [uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Ah, my first megathread... sorry for the late response but I was away over the weekend. Peter, thanks for finding the bad in the hRecipe example on the wiki! Ben, thanks for your very accurate analysis! Tantek, thanks for updating the wiki! On 28.06.09 23:44, "Peter Mika" wrote: > I agree with

Re: [uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-06-25 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 24.06.09 16:23, "Brian Suda" wrote: > You should add this to the Wiki under the > FAQs, then we can all iterate on the best answer. i know that the wiki is regarded as the way to do things in this community but i'd like to remind you that there is no mechanism in place to get notification whe

Re: [uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-06-25 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi all, thanks for the nice discussion! On 25.06.09 11:15, "Ben Ward" wrote: >> However, they might have gotten the idea that it's ok to do this, >> because the two microformats share the fn property. So they could >> have thought, why repeat it twice? > > I don't agree, although we should ack

[uf-discuss] mixing vocabularies

2009-06-24 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi all, a question: when contemplating over the feature set of hRecipe it occured to me that i don't seem to get the rational of mixing vocabularies in all it's subtleties. e.g. why should i add rel-tag to the hRecipe vocabulary when people can use rel-tag anyway on any element they want to? likew

Re: [uf-discuss] hRecipe in RDF

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 17.06.09 19:43, "Toby A Inkster" wrote: > On 17 Jun 2009, at 15:42, Thomas Loertsch wrote: > >> I'm not quite sure if I will continue to work on a mapping of *all* >> microformats to a RDF vocabulary since that's a lot of work. > > > Seen

[uf-discuss] hRecipe - status quo - how many elements

2009-06-17 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi again, I'm indulging in hRecipe optimization and advancement today... Early this year, when hRecipe had just reached Draft-status, Tantek raised his head and cautioned that the format may contain too many elements and that it's a *principle* of microformats to start (and maybe stay) small. I t

[uf-discuss] hRecipe in RDF

2009-06-17 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, I mapped hRecipe to an RDF vocabulary and added it as RDFa to our site www.essen-und-trinken.de. The RDF mapping is documented on the wiki http://microformats.org/wiki/hrecipe-rdf. I'd be glad to get some feedback! I'm not quite sure if I will continue to work on a mapping of *all* microformat

[uf-discuss] Status of measure

2009-04-28 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, we had a discussion on the hRecipe issues page if we should reuse the measure voacbulary. I'd like to get a feel how stable measure is. The history suggests that there has not been much development going on for quite some time, but the format itself looks fairly stable and well worked out, the

[uf-discuss] *new* - hRecipe draft version 0.2 - *exciting*

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi, a new draft of hRecipe is online - version 0.2 enjoy, thomas . Thomas Lörtsch Business Development G+J Exclusive&Living digital GmbH Redaktion Online .. Stubbenhuk 5 20459 Hamburg ... eMail: loertsch.tho...@guj.de ___ microformats-discuss mail

Re: hRecipe issues (was Re: [uf-discuss] title -> heading/label/caption/?)

2009-01-20 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 15.01.09 23:29, "Tantek Çelik" wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Thomas Loertsch >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> in hRecipe we use "recipe-title" to avoid the problems with the &qu

Re: [uf-discuss] title -> heading/label/caption/?

2009-01-15 Thread Thomas Loertsch
-use 'entry-title' from hAtom? yeah, well, if it was a list of recipes that would make quite some sense. but "entry-title" in my feeling puts as much weight on "entry" (part of something bigger) as on "title". not ideal... i still think "heading&qu

[uf-discuss] title -> heading/label/caption/?

2009-01-15 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi, in hRecipe we use "recipe-title" to avoid the problems with the "title" tag. but this is ugly and it doesn't scale - it's not reusable in other microformats. therefor i consulted a thesaurus and filtered out the following alternatives: heading caption label since i'm not a native speaker i

Re: [uf-discuss] hrecipe Draft now online *!!!!*

2008-12-09 Thread Thomas Loertsch
lution soon. Lively discussion welcomed! Cheers, Thomas P.s.: I changed my signature on the wiki to 'TomLurge' since I found 'ThomasLoertsch' to be annoyingly long. Phonetically they're the same though! On 03.12.08 21:25, "Ben Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [uf-discuss] hrecipe Draft now online *!!!!*

2008-12-04 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi, On 03.12.08 21:25, "Ben Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3 Dec 2008, at 09:49, Thomas Loertsch wrote: > >> hRecipe is now a draft, linked from the frontpage. time to celebrate >> (a >> little) and scrutinely proofread, critizise and polis

[uf-discuss] hrecipe Draft now online *!!!!*

2008-12-03 Thread Thomas Loertsch
hi all, hRecipe is now a draft, linked from the frontpage. time to celebrate (a little) and scrutinely proofread, critizise and polish the sweet little bastard... http://microformats.org/wiki/recipe. a few notes right away: * i rather shamlessly copied the hAudio draft so don't be surprised if s

[uf-discuss] hRecipe #2

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, I've incorporated some comments from the wiki into my proposal from october 08 on hrecipe brainstorming. I'd really appreciate feedback from everybody since we'll soon implement the format on our site. Though it's not a major problem to change templates at a later state it still would be nice

Re: [uf-discuss] hRecipe brainstorming - Property List and Field Details

2008-10-14 Thread Thomas Loertsch
he community can compare > and contrast several brainstorm proposals. As part of your proposal you may > wish to document the reasons behind each choice of property name etc. > > Tantek > > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Loertsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > D

[uf-discuss] hRecipe brainstorming - Property List and Field Details

2008-10-14 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, I'd like to edit the property list and field details on the recipe-brainstorming page to reflect the recent discussions on the mailinglist. Since I dominated most of these discussions this is admittedly a rather subjective task. I would try to be very consensual but still ... are there any pro

[uf-discuss] hRecipe example

2008-10-14 Thread Thomas Loertsch
"Examples"-page? Cheers, Thomas Pommes Frites Pommes frites come from the outer space. They are served hot. This recipe is only an example. Don't try this at home! Thomas Loertsch Published 14. Oct 2008 500 gramme potatoes, hard cooking, or use frozen pomm

Re: [uf-discuss] How about adding aRecipe, an RDFa serialization of hRecipe?

2008-10-14 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi Toby, thanks for your comments! On 14.10.08 00:59, "Toby A Inkster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, this is probably becoming off-topic for uf-discuss. Perhaps > we should shift over to the SWIG mailing list? Maybe you're right. I have some hope that people here are interested in issue

Re: [uf-discuss] How about adding aRecipe, an RDFa serialization of hRecipe?

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi Toby, I like the reuse of existing vocabularies but I'm wondering if it could be done in another, less involved way. The way you do it also scarces me a little because I find it hard to judge how stable vocabularies like those of donnafales.com or holygoat.co.uk are. And what if there where two

Re: [uf-discuss] How about adding aRecipe, an RDFa serialization of hRecipe?

2008-10-09 Thread Thomas Loertsch
On 09.10.08 13:01, "Tom Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure that an RDFa serialization is something that needs > endorsement or hosting by microformats.org. Once hRecipe is > formalised, RDF/RDFa-based work that uses the hRecipe vocabulary needs > no input from microformats.org. The

[uf-discuss] How about adding aRecipe, an RDFa serialization of hRecipe?

2008-10-09 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, I'd like to propose the development of an RDFa serialization of Recipe. I'd like to extend Recipe to become: * Recipe, the vocabulary * hRecipe, the Microformat serialization of that vocabulary * aRecipe, the RDFa serialization. The motivation for this has both a vocabulary side

[uf-discuss] hRecipe -brainstorming and issues refactoring

2008-10-02 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, following Tantek's advice on how to garner more interest for my recent submissions to hRecipe I created a seperate issues page and made some changes to brainstorming - most of them rather cosmetic, but you better check. I also added most of the suggestions and comments that I had posted on t

Re: [uf-discuss] hRecipe - one suggestion, a lot of comments

2008-09-25 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi, On 24.09.08 23:07, "Toby A Inkster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've put together slightly better documentation of Cognition's > support for it here: > > http://buzzword.org.uk/cognition/uf-plus.html#hrecipe slightly ;-) Very impressive work, btw! >> * Suggestion: idle period / off-ti

[uf-discuss] hRecipe - one suggestion, a lot of comments

2008-09-24 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi all, as I already posted here we're planning to implement hRecipe at "essen & trinken" [1]. I think hRecipe is in quite a good shape already. Cognition [2] has recently included "experimental support for the proposed hRecipe microformat" (though the document [3] is a bit vague about what exactl

[uf-discuss] hRecipe implementation

2008-09-03 Thread Thomas Loertsch
Hi there, I'm working at "essen & trinken" [1], a fairly popular website [2] about cooking in german. One of the main features of the site is a collection of about 10.000 recipes, all actually tried, categorized, etc. They are published as HTML 4 pages. We would like to make that collection more