Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-09 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 15:21 +, Martin McEvoy wrote: eg: we could use class data as a container for what we want to include. span class=vcard span class=data span class=fnFoo/span /span a class=email href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]email [EMAIL

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-08 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Toby On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 10:58 +, Toby A Inkster wrote: Such that this: p class=#foo bar #baz x /p is considered equivalent to the following using current existing include- pattern: p class=bar a class=include

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-08 Thread Toby A Inkster
Paul Wilkins wrote: Toby A Inkster wrote: The order of the paragraphs doesn't have a special significance, yet the paragraphs do have an inherent order. Similarly, the order of class names within a class attribute don't have a special significance attached to them by the HTML spec, but they

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-06 Thread Toby A Inkster
Ryan King wrote: Toby A Inkster wrote: It does claim that it's a set of class names, and in mathematical parlance sets are unordered by definition, and must not contain duplicates, but it's unlikely that the framers of the HTML 4.01 spec intended the world set to be interpreted in that way

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-06 Thread Toby A Inkster
Paul Wilkins wrote: If the ordering of class names were supposed to to have some special significance, there would be further information about such a specific order. In this case a lack of evidence points to no importance in the order of the class names. If the ordering of paragraphs were

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
On Feb 7, 2008 4:36 AM, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The order of the paragraphs doesn't have a special significance, yet the paragraphs do have an inherent order. Similarly, the order of class names within a class attribute don't have a special significance attached to them by the

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Toby A Inkster
Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1. class is an unordered set of values per HTML4. introducing ordering is a non-starter both from a violation of HTML4 spec perspective and likely requiring of rewriting HTML4 parsers to maintain an ordering where they currently don't. A reading of

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1. class is an unordered set of values per HTML4. introducing ordering is a non-starter both from a violation of HTML4 spec perspective and likely requiring of rewriting HTML4 parsers to maintain an

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Paul Wilkins
On Feb 6, 2008 12:00 PM, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specs aren't generally written in layman's terms. If the ordering of class names were supposed to to have some special significance, there would be further information about such a specific order. In this case a lack of evidence points

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Toby A Inkster
pWe have three branches in span class=locality id=ldnLondon/span, including our head office in span class=locality id=kenKensington/span:/p ul li class=adr #ldn span class=street-address123 Oxford Street/span /li li class=adr #ken #ldn span class=street-address5 Kensington High

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Toby A Inkster
Toby A Inkster wrote: The order of the space-delimited class attributes should be considered significant -- that is, in foo class=bar #baz the content referred to by #baz is logically included as the last child of the foo element, but in foo class=#baz bar, it is logically included as the

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The order of the space-delimited class attributes should be considered significant -- that is, in foo class=bar #baz the content referred to by #baz is logically included as the last child of the foo element, but in foo

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 19:46 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The order of the space-delimited class attributes should be considered significant -- that is, in foo class=bar #baz the content referred to by #baz is logically

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The order of the space-delimited class attributes should be considered significant -- that is, in foo class=bar #baz the content referred to by #baz is logically included as the last child of the foo element, but in foo

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 20:40 +, Martin McEvoy wrote: foo id=me class=fnMartin McEvoy/foo bar class=[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://wherever.com//bar No :( too verbose anyway: div class=vcard span id=me class=fnMartin McEvoy/span br /a class=url org href=http://someurl.co.uk/;WebOrganics/a /div

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 21:35 +, Martin McEvoy wrote: On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 20:40 +, Martin McEvoy wrote: foo id=me class=fnMartin McEvoy/foo bar class=[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://wherever.com//bar No :( too verbose anyway: A solution may be to remove our own anti-patterns

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 2/3/08 4:34 AM, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toby A Inkster wrote: The order of the space-delimited class attributes should be considered significant -- that is, in foo class=bar #baz the content referred to by #baz is logically included as the last child of the foo element,

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-03 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Toby A Inkster wrote: For addresses, the order of the included elements is probably not important. When it comes to, say, printing an envelope, we all know that the street address comes before the locality. Parsers can have this knowledge hard-coded. This is probably true, although note this