Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Ryan Cannon wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, Ryan King wrote: 2. We have prior art that is being ignored. Publishers are already using ... to do this. However, UID is not a field that takes a URL for its value, just a string, so therefore: http://ryancannon.com/";>Ryan S

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Feb 7, 2007, Ryan King wrote: 2. We have prior art that is being ignored. Publishers are already using ... to do this. However, UID is not a field that takes a URL for its value, just a string, so therefore: http://ryancannon.com/";>Ryan Should be parsed as URL: http;//ryancannon.com/

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, David Janes wrote: On 2/7/07, Ara Pehlivanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/7/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're missing a stage: > > - fragment hcard (anywhere on the net by anybody) > - points to home page, using class="url" > - home pag

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
On 2/7/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/7/07, Ara Pehlivanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/7/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you're missing a stage: > > > > - fragment hcard (anywhere on the net by anybody) > > - points to home page, using class="url" >

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread David Janes
On 2/7/07, Ara Pehlivanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/7/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're missing a stage: > > - fragment hcard (anywhere on the net by anybody) > - points to home page, using class="url" > - home page, using class="something" rel="something-else", p

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
On 2/7/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you're missing a stage: - fragment hcard (anywhere on the net by anybody) - points to home page, using class="url" - home page, using class="something" rel="something-else", points to authoritative hcard e.g. Ryan King hCards in the wild

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread David Janes
On 2/7/07, Ara Pehlivanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/7/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're right, rel=me requires symmetry in order to be trusted at all. > For this reason, and others XFN is not the simplest way to do > Authoritative hCards. I guess the real question is, "who

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
On 2/7/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're right, rel=me requires symmetry in order to be trusted at all. For this reason, and others XFN is not the simplest way to do Authoritative hCards. I guess the real question is, "who will be creating the partial hCards that will be referring

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: On 2/1/07, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: use case - sure - for example, at our conference sites, we markup speakers with hCard, and this often includes a link to their blog etc. In this case, a link to an authoritative (or perhaps, to

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-04 Thread Colin Barrett
On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:45 AM, David Janes wrote: On 2/4/07, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed, it seems the "me" attribute from xfn may not be entirely desirable. Is it even needed for a "master"/authoritative hCards to recognize their children? -Colin I can see a use for it. Fo

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-04 Thread David Janes
On 2/4/07, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed, it seems the "me" attribute from xfn may not be entirely desirable. Is it even needed for a "master"/authoritative hCards to recognize their children? -Colin I can see a use for it. For example, I'd like to primarily identify myself

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-04 Thread Colin Barrett
On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: On 2/1/07, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: use case - sure - for example, at our conference sites, we markup speakers with hCard, and this often includes a link to their blog etc. In this case, a link to an authoritative (or perhaps, to

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> "me self" can't be anything but tautological; nor is it appropriate >>when >> referring to third parties. so: > >in English, it is tautological. But restricting the words to their >roles in XFN and Atom, they mean quite dif

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-02 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
On 2/1/07, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: use case - sure - for example, at our conference sites, we markup speakers with hCard, and this often includes a link to their blog etc. In this case, a link to an authoritative (or perhaps, to be even less strict "detailed") hCard may be somethi

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-02 Thread John Allsopp
Andy, (apologies for the tardiness, I'm in one of those old fashioned, unconnected airomoplanes) "me self" can't be anything but tautological; nor is it appropriate when referring to third parties. so: in English, it is tautological. But restricting the words to their roles in XFN and

[uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel="me self" to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>I was initially going to argue that "self me" was tautological, but >>in fact, in this sense it is not, and indeed, the addition of >>bookmark is probably tautological. >> >> So, I'd probably +1 this suggestion, […] > >+1 from