Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2006-01-01 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
Kevin, On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 15:48 -0800, Kevin Marks wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: This means working deliberately to avoid the two cardinal sins that namespaces typical both enable and encourage: 1. The same term is used to mean two different things 2. Two

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-31 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
Ryan, On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 23:47 -0600, Ryan King wrote: ...I believe that context and specific rules on opacity are sufficient for making thing unambiguous. Admittedly, with microformats we tend to walk a fine line here, but its not without reason- we're trying to optimize for

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-31 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 12/31/05 1:58 AM, Benjamin Carlyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan, On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 23:47 -0600, Ryan King wrote: ...I believe that context and specific rules on opacity are sufficient for making thing unambiguous. Admittedly, with microformats we tend to walk a fine line here, but

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-31 Thread Kevin Marks
On Dec 27, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: This means working deliberately to avoid the two cardinal sins that namespaces typical both enable and encourage: 1. The same term is used to mean two different things 2. Two terms are used to mean the same things Indeed. In fact this is one

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-31 Thread David Janes -- BlogMatrix
Kevin Marks wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: This means working deliberately to avoid the two cardinal sins that namespaces typical both enable and encourage: 1. The same term is used to mean two different things 2. Two terms are used to mean the same things Indeed.

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-29 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 08:06 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: I'm fairly happy with the way things are named in hAtom right now: anyone familiar with weblogs and/or Atom will immediately recognize all the elements. The one (so far) variance is rel=bookmark, which is defined in HTML so

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-29 Thread Ryan King
On Dec 29, 2005, at 7:06 AM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: I'm waiting for someone to express a stronger opinion or principle on how elements should be named, preferably with a reference to a Wiki page listing it. At this point, there's serious proposals to rename 75%+ of the elements in

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
Paul Bryson wrote... I'm just looking for extra confirmation of this little problem before touching the wiki. It appears that hAtom uses the class attribute title for it's title, such as what would go in a heading hn However, the hCard also uses title, but in a completely different

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread David Janes -- BlogMatrix
Paul Bryson wrote: David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote... Nice. I just discovered a bug in my parser that screwed up the title nesting. Here's [1] the new and improved version. Does your parser fill the Author from the hCard's FN/NICKNAME field? I am curious if it would, given that the hCard

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread David Janes -- BlogMatrix
Paul Bryson wrote: You'll want to move class=logo from the li down to the img where it belongs though. Done. Is it required to be in an IMG only, or can the IMG act as another element's value (as I had it previously). You should be able to now convert the Date Posted into a nice published

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote ... The author is opaque in that hAtom is not looking for further hAtom elements within that element. However, hAtom does know that this element is a hCard and parses it as a hCard. Ah, that explains a lot. Thanks. Atamido

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote... You should be able to now convert the Date Posted into a nice published element. It isn't already? Honestly, in production I'm not sure that I will have access to the date in an ISO format. I will include it though for the example. I'm not a fan of how