[uf-discuss] Microformats Meetup in Edinburgh

2006-05-19 Thread brian suda
There are several opportunities to get together for a microformat meetup
while in Edinburgh that our also outside of www2006 (for all those who
can't afford the time or price of the conference).

BOF for microformats
http://www2006.org/wiki/w/Microformats_BoF

Refresh Edinburgh
http://refreshedinburgh.org/

-brian

Stephen Farrell wrote:
 Speaking of Edinburgh... are there plans for a uf meetup there, or is
 there a uf session?

 brian suda wrote:
 Chris Messina wrote:
 Yup -- in fact, why don't qe just roll in the mf meetup idea into mush?

 Suda, that means you!
 --- what did i get volunteer for? i'm at xtech in amsterdam at the
 moment and will be up in Edinburgh next week.

 -brian
 See y'all tonight!

 Chris

 On 5/17/06, David Janes -- BlogMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I thought Tara was tiring you out bringing you to clubs all hours
 of the
 night [1]?

 Alas, I have an early evening engagement. Are you going to Mush [2]?

 Regards, etc...
 David

 [1] http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/05/jazz-in-tdot.html
 [2] http://www.whatswiththat.ca/mush/

 Chris Messina wrote:
 Anyone up for a brief microformats meetup tomorrow around 6pm in
 Toronto?
 Chris
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[uf-discuss] CFP microformat?

2006-05-19 Thread Michael McCracken

Hi all, I'd like to start some discussion into a call-for-papers microformat.

Here's the problem to solve:

Publications at conferences are important for many academics' careers.
Keeping track of submission and event dates and locations - and time
zones - is important. Doing that  with less effort would be a big
improvement. Right now most CFP's are distributed by email and posted
on the conference web site in a lightly marked-up version of the
email. Possibly the most common way to find out about conference
details is to forwarded a CFP email by one's advisor, who gets spammed
regularly with those emails. There are problems with that system -
email loss, no good filter (there are bogus conferences), checking for
deadline updates is common, and manual.

A microformat to mark up calls for papers could make it easier for
authors to find conferences they're interested in, keep track of them,
and plan publications. It could make it much easier to publicize
conferences, which now involves manually* submitting to various
databases and finding appropriate mailing lists to spam.

I already have a few examples and some notes on what they have in
common - it's not too complex - but I wanted to put this idea out
before I went ahead and created a wiki page, in case someone can
suggest a more general solution that would work better.

One note is that it certainly isn't just an hEvent - a CFP usually
contains at least a description, a list of related topic keywords, at
least two date ranges, and information about several people and
institutions.

So, what do you think, folks?
-mike

* manually in this context may just mean manually telling your grad
students to do it, but still...

--
Michael McCracken
UCSD CSE PhD Candidate
research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/
misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/
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[uf-discuss] RDFa

2006-05-19 Thread Ben Ward

A W3C Working Draft published on May 16th:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060516/

For Embedding RDF in XHTML. Gives iCal and vCard examples. In  
practice, there's a bit mark-up involved than with µF (namespace  
declarations for a start) but seems to acheive much the same thing in  
the end.


One interesting thing to note is the use of the META element for  
embedding computer-readible data, e.g.


meta property=cal:dtstart content=20060508T1000-0500May 8th at  
10am/meta


Has this ever been considered for Microformats? It seems especially  
relevant given the recent uncertainty regarding ABBR/@TITLE and  
accessibility tools. I have to admit, I've never seen META used  
outside the HEAD and never even considered it as valid. Could it be a  
viable alternative (if it's considered that an alternative is ever  
needed).


Regards,

Ben

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Re: [uf-discuss] CFP microformat?

2006-05-19 Thread Tantek Çelik
Hi Mike,

While this is starting to feel less like a general (80%) and more like a
vertical (20%) application/use case, having had to deal with CFPs myself,
I'm certainly sympathetic.

I'd say to start with, compile a list of URLs to examples of CFPs on the web
so we can start to document the actual common elements in use in real-world
CFPs.

Whether or not we end up with a microformat, documenting common CFP
publishing behaviors is likely to be beneficial.

Thanks,

Tantek


On 5/19/06 5:24 PM, Michael McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, I'd like to start some discussion into a call-for-papers microformat.
 
 Here's the problem to solve:
 
 Publications at conferences are important for many academics' careers.
 Keeping track of submission and event dates and locations - and time
 zones - is important. Doing that  with less effort would be a big
 improvement. Right now most CFP's are distributed by email and posted
 on the conference web site in a lightly marked-up version of the
 email. Possibly the most common way to find out about conference
 details is to forwarded a CFP email by one's advisor, who gets spammed
 regularly with those emails. There are problems with that system -
 email loss, no good filter (there are bogus conferences), checking for
 deadline updates is common, and manual.
 
 A microformat to mark up calls for papers could make it easier for
 authors to find conferences they're interested in, keep track of them,
 and plan publications. It could make it much easier to publicize
 conferences, which now involves manually* submitting to various
 databases and finding appropriate mailing lists to spam.
 
 I already have a few examples and some notes on what they have in
 common - it's not too complex - but I wanted to put this idea out
 before I went ahead and created a wiki page, in case someone can
 suggest a more general solution that would work better.
 
 One note is that it certainly isn't just an hEvent - a CFP usually
 contains at least a description, a list of related topic keywords, at
 least two date ranges, and information about several people and
 institutions.
 
 So, what do you think, folks?
 -mike
 
 * manually in this context may just mean manually telling your grad
 students to do it, but still...

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