In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gazza
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The problem before was how you were going about it; asking what people
thought of the idea before you'd collected the supporting evidence.
Poppycock:
http://microformats.org/wiki/species-examples
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin
Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 23, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Human being is a reference to a species, and should be marked up as
such on any page which includes it in a biological context.
That's quite a bit of extra metadata -- IIRC
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gazza
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This is some good research Andy, and I hope they've been added to the
examples page.
P.S.
It's a wiki - feel free.
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Andy Mabbett mumbled the following on 24/09/2006 09:29:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gazza
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This is some good research Andy, and I hope they've been added to the
examples page.
P.S.
It's a wiki - feel free.
It's your idea, it's your proposal, it's your research,
As part of the many hats I wear, I've developed this page to be hCal
compliant (at least according to Tails):
http://www.surgeons.org/ScriptContent/CalendarAO.cfm?Section=Who_We_Are
Neither the Technorati or Suda HCal conversion tools seem to play nice
with the page, but I can at least confirm
This is a known problem with Outlook[1]. The issue is that several
OPTIONAL fields are Required in Outlook, namely DTSTAMP and UID. I had
a look at your HTML and you seem to have them in there, so the next
common reason things failing is TIDY. To use XSLT the input HTML file
has to be XHTML. To
On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin
Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 23, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Human being is a reference to a species, and should be marked up
as
such on any page which includes it in a biological
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin
Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I think questions like those will help your case -- sending dozens of
links to this list will not.
Then you'd better ask TC why he asked for them.
I don't think he was asking for them to be posted to the list, but to
be put
In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man
proposals with dated currency. But I don't see anything in currency-
examples [2] with dated currency. I think I understand the general
idea, that currencies change value over time, but in what currently
published HTML would
It seemed to me that a page linking to (non-hysterical) criticism of
Microformats might be useful, so I created one:
ttp://microformats.org/wiki/criticism
as always, please feel free to add to and develop it (even if it is my
idea, my proposal and my research!)
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
It could also be used to mark up current prices, on pages which are not
likely to be updated
read:
It could also be used to mark up current (AT THE TIME OF
WRITING) prices, on pages which are not likely to be
On 9/24/06 10:08 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin
Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I think questions like those will help your case -- sending dozens of
links to this list will not.
Then you'd better ask TC why he asked for them.
I don't
On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seemed to me that a page linking to (non-hysterical) criticism of
Microformats might be useful, so I created one:
ttp://microformats.org/wiki/criticism
This is certainly a reasonable approach, to openly confront
On Sep 24, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man
proposals with dated currency.
No you don't; you see two real, albeit simplified for clarity,
examples
[3],
Is their a semantic difference between the use of title or role to
describe the position within the organisation for a hcard?
Relevant links:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Job_Titles
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Property_List
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
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On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seemed to me that a page linking to (non-hysterical) criticism of
Microformats might be useful, so I created one:
ttp://microformats.org/wiki/criticism
title in hCard/vCard is well understood to mean job/organization title
and is commonly used. role is less well understood and less used in both
existing vCard applications and content.
While role may have a lot of potential, it makes sense to use title as
it is understood, while role is figured
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 24, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man
proposals with dated currency.
No you
On 9/24/06 2:05 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seemed to me that a page linking to (non-hysterical) criticism of
Microformats might be useful, so
[fork]
On 9/24/06 1:38 PM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you might be underestimating the difficulty of convincing
people to use microformats. But I'll be happy to find I was wrong
come adoption time.
Scott, this is an excellent point, and something I have *often* found in
On 9/24/06 2:13 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who will be dissuaded, by the inclusion of an *optional* component?
Because if it is unnecessary for the 80/20, we leave it out. Otherwise
there is a ballooning of optional components.
In terms of date, I suggest you look to the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
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Before proposing even the assumed *need* for a microformat, what if we
require that the proposer *first* demonstrate an understanding of
current microformats by requiring that they use/adopt existing
microformats on their web
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Who will be dissuaded, by the inclusion of an *optional* component?
Because if it is unnecessary for the 80/20, we leave it out.
The question was who.
Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components.
That's absurd,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I meant it about Contributors sections. I repeat the encouragement
for you to add them.
Done. Thank you again.
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On 9/24/06 2:38 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Before proposing even the assumed *need* for a microformat, what if we
require that the proposer *first* demonstrate an understanding of
current microformats by
On 9/24/06 3:15 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components.
That's absurd, and a very weak and illogical form of argument. Nobody is
suggesting any more than one optional component. You've invented the
rest.
Even one additional
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
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I came here some months ago, lurked, posted a few minor
comments and lots of questions; marked up some test microformats, asked
for feedback, applied fixes, iterated, marked-up a quantity of real
data,
Cool. Just to be sure
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
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The point is that current values are 99+% case (we can count/cite
pages on eBay, Amazon etc. if you like) which are easily represented by
using hAtom + currency, thus relegating purely historical references to
the 20% case which
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
date
How about this as a model:
date is an optional component of the currency microformat.
When date is present, parsers may disregard it.
When parsers understand date, and none is present, they may
Andy Mabbett writes
No; but then again neither am I only interested in serving
the hypothetical interests of mega-corporations.
(Organisations who, for all we know, might be strongly
against allowing easy currency conversion on pages they've
tailored to - and discounted for - a specific
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
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Are you seriously arguing that there are more than 20% references to
explicit *historical* currency amounts in contrast to all the e-
commerce sites out there which reference current values as of the
date-time of the publication
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
date
How about this as a model:
date is an optional component of the currency microformat.
When date is present, parsers may disregard it.
When
On 9/24/06 7:25 PM, Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
date
How about this as a model:
date is an optional component of the currency microformat.
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