Re: [uf-discuss] tools.microformatic.com upgraded

2008-02-05 Thread Premasagar
Drew McLellan wrote: Following some problems with response times on tools.microformatic.com over the last 10 days, I've moved it too a new server with roughly twice the CPU and RAM. Should all be a lot faster now! My apologies to those affected by the recent slowness.

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Alf Eaton
Manu Sporny wrote: Alf Eaton wrote: It would work, but so would a number of very complicated things. My needs are essentially very simple: artistPrimal Scream/artist - albumScreamadelica/album so span class=creatorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span Why doesn't the

[uf-discuss] Apple Data Detectors

2008-02-05 Thread Thom Shannon
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this before but the new version of Apples Mail has functionality similar to what microformats is trying to enable (hCard and hCal) You can mouse over data in an email like addresses, phone numbers and dates, then add them to your address book/calendar.

RE: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Michael MD
Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span /div That may be fine for someone who just wants to mark up some tracks they like on a personal blog ... but an artist or record store may want to

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes If you really want to make the distinction between a publisher, a drummer, a singer, a technician, and someone else, you can always

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span /div That may be fine for someone who just wants to mark up some tracks they

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Both the Beatles and Geoff Emerick contributed to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band but one is clearly more significant than the other.

RE: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 01:56 +1100, Michael MD wrote: Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span /div That may be fine for someone who just wants to mark up some tracks they like on

[uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Toby A Inkster
Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1. class is an unordered set of values per HTML4. introducing ordering is a non-starter both from a violation of HTML4 spec perspective and likely requiring of rewriting HTML4 parsers to maintain an ordering where they currently don't. A reading of

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 01:56 +1100, Michael MD wrote: Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span /div That may be fine

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 01:56 +1100, Michael MD wrote: Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span - span class=albumScreamadelica/span

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Manu Sporny
Alf Eaton wrote: The example above is valid hAudio markup - is your issue with the word contributor instead of creator? Basically, yes :-) And it's not a huge issue, I was just wondering if there was justification for it being that way - which there is, it seems. We're also tracking this

focus of microformats (was: Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor)

2008-02-05 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Andy Mabbett wrote: Everything is an edge case, depending on which point you're looking from. I'm conceding that I'm looking at these natural language examples from a particular perspective, the economic one, to decide what is an edge case or not, and that I'm just assuming that this

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 16:41 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 01:56 +1100, Michael MD wrote: Why doesn't the following work for you, then? div class=haudio span class=contributorPrimal Scream/span

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Robert On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 18:39 +, Robert O'Rourke wrote: For cover tracks you'd have something like: span class=contributor vcard span class=roleOriginal Artist/span - span class=fn orgPrimal Scream/span /span Here is the best action I have seen using roles, It may

Re: [uf-discuss] Apple Data Detectors

2008-02-05 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Thom Shannon wrote: Not sure if anyone's mentioned this before but the new version of Apples Mail has functionality similar to what microformats is trying to enable (hCard and hCal) You can mouse over data in an email like addresses, phone numbers and dates, then add them to your address

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Toby A Inkster wrote: Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1. class is an unordered set of values per HTML4. introducing ordering is a non-starter both from a violation of HTML4 spec perspective and likely requiring of rewriting HTML4 parsers to maintain an

Re: [uf-discuss] haudio contributor

2008-02-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes How about removing the 'contributor' class from the key creator's vcard? It would make sense to me to group contributors separately to the creator. The vcard attached to the hAudio would denote the original creator.

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-05 Thread Paul Wilkins
On Feb 6, 2008 12:00 PM, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specs aren't generally written in layman's terms. If the ordering of class names were supposed to to have some special significance, there would be further information about such a specific order. In this case a lack of evidence points

Re: [uf-discuss] Apple Data Detectors

2008-02-05 Thread Karl Dubost
just FYI Le 6 févr. 2008 à 08:01, Guillaume Lebleu a écrit : Asking people to write Tuesday, February 5, 2008 in this order, with the commas, etc. is very likely even simpler for normal people than writing abbr class=foo title=2008-05-02Tuesday, February 5, 2008/abbr. I have tested in

Re: [uf-discuss] Apple Data Detectors

2008-02-05 Thread Michael MD
people write dates, addresses, etc on the Web or on their emails. Asking people to write Tuesday, February 5, 2008 in this order, with the commas, etc. is very likely even simpler for normal people than writing you would *think* so - and it would certainly be nice but the behaviour or

Re: [uf-discuss] Apple Data Detectors

2008-02-05 Thread Breton Slivka
I think what was intended, was rather than try to write a parser that picks up most styles of natural language dates, as you suggest- Instead write a parser that only picks up one or two standard styles of dates. Much like the style guides that are used in academia for writing standard forms of