We'll be having a diso/activity streams/microformats meetup tonight at
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the idea of being able to automatically microformat content as
it's published to a blog or output from a CMS.
Can anyone take a look at this and give us a sense for how good these tools are?
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Anyway, the news got me noodling, and I'm curious what other folks think.
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and keep it on the wiki (i.e. CC+)?
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Not sure this is a good thing since, from the article, it looks like
they're already inventing their own.
If they're simply using more semantics in their HTML, that's great!
BUT, that doesn't mean they're microformats without going through
community process.
So, I support their adoption
Just an update on this; Daniel of Digg got back to me and the change
is in the release branch. We should see the fix go live in about a
month.
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I wanted to let you know that in implementing identity consolidation
://microformats.org/wiki/xfn-clarifications#me_nofollow_interaction
Would be great to see if you could clean this up for the next revision. Cheers,
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back, but logically why not this?
link rel=me href=http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe; /
link rel=me href=http://ma.gnolia.com/people/factoryjoe; /
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I dunno if this was posted before (a quick search and a look at the
wiki page didn't reveal prior art) but I just discovered that all
Apple Store customer reviews are marked up with hReview.
How's that for Apple embracing open web standards?
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and other elements.
Please let me know what you think -- and if you have any suggestions.
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For the record, that's how I tag my blog posts -- using links
throughout a post. Not many people are aware of this convention
however, nor the reliance on the last URL fragment as the actual tag.
Still, that reliance allows me to embed meta characteristics without
the awkward list of tags
Ooo! I've wanted to see this happen for a long time! hAtom + Sparkle
is a *fantastic* application of Microformats. I agree that hatom is
the way forward but also think that hAppcast would be a good idea to
explore.
I've created the following page to kick things off:
, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
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On Jun 12, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
Clearly the biggest issue I see with this scheme is the
inability to
link out *from* the email address. However, I'm not sure that this
case nullifies
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I created a simple XFN aggregating application, it occurs to me that
adding email addresses, both for the purpose of rel-me links and for
contact links is actually useful and something that should be
supported in XFN
Perfect, thanks Brian. That's what I would have tought.
We should add this to the XFN-faq page. (I'll do it when back on my laptop).
Chris
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Hmm, but both comments so far don't really say
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Clearly the biggest issue I see with this scheme is the inability to
link out *from* the email address. However, I'm not sure that this
case nullifies the utility of such links
up, especially as I start
making progress on an XFN app I'm building.
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If I'm missing prior art, just point me to a link. Thanks!
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It isn't that the arguments aren't clear enough or loudly
WordPress blogs.
They used my mockup as a guide:
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steam, what's there to lose
at this point? We've got to do something other than just hope that
somehow, someday semantic will click in people's head as a glorious
AHA and as the key to the future!
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the addition of
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directly into answering the question what is a POSH Pattern? rather
than simply answering What is POSH and why is it called that?
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micropatterns (though I've used that for designer-friendly HTML
patterns) but microformats -- specifically an alternative to data
formats like RSS, ATOM, vcard and ical. You can certainly have
semantic conventions but semantic conventions alone do not a
microformat make.
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through the execution and development of a microformats, potentially
entirely outside of this list, simply by religiously adhering to the
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American Division/span
/span
... which strikes me as inadequate. Thoughts?
Why not:
span class=org
span class=fn organization-nameABC, Inc./span,
span class=organization-unitNorth American Division/span
/span
I dunno if that's legit, but just another class ordering.
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of reinventing wheels and spinning my own, but I, at
least, find this alternative view useful:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microformats/
Let me know what you think. Currently it doesn't allow posting as it's
a read-only mirror.
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still maintaining essentially the original semantics.
Thoughts and code improvements welcome, as I'm not really a developer.
I only play one on TV.
Happy Turkey-killing day!
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this is something on par with adr and geo,
that is, an extraction from something that is already happening.
Regards, etc...
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The fact that this effort seems vague and non-specific to begin with
seems to preclude it from ever gaining adoption; additionally
In case anyone missed it... something to play with and offer ideas for:
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Hey all,
Thought this might interest you... very cunning use of mF detection
with Firefox extension -- and the data is fed into Flash:
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/11/14/microformats-flash-who-knew/
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I've created a disambiguation page on the wiki for the term microformat
based on some wording that Chris Messina authored. I think this should
suffice for now.
http://microformats.org/wiki/microformat
Looks good and should suffice.
Chris
the application form by next week in order to
get our topic included.
(http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/09/web_20_expo_cfp.html)
I could certainly use some help putting this together -- and suggest
that we use the wiki to formulate our summary and application.
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[1] http://tinyurl.com/y5re6r
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I'd seen this work before and thought it the perfect implementation
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It might be useful to use 'alternate' as a class value however.
Good idea, since the alternate property is well established. But then, in
Scotts example, what does alternate mean? Any
://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Human_vs._Machine_readable
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Check it out:
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Sweet! Ernie, did you have something to do with this?
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if only URLs could be turned into IDs:
Not sure what your intention would be Chris, but there's a fairly
well established practice of converting 'http://microformats.org
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Put it this way: there's a convergence coming between OpenID,
microformats (especially XFN and hcard) and being able to specify
assertions about a given hcard without having all
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Put it this way: there's a convergence coming between OpenID,
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Anyway, sorry to ramble -- it's cold out here at the Bridge School
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impacts (doesn't stuff like LiveClipboard cover this ground?).
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have to detect all these different class names (or numbers of big
tags) and translate that to numeric data? Seems not too intuitive...
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Frances and Chris,
On 9/22/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True -- but as we're
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Because I wrote this up when I was on a plane. ;)
Does the mF wiki support inline CSS and all the tags we need?
Chris
On 9/22/06, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious - but why aren't we using the uF wiki?
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For the sake
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Thought this was worth bubbling up from the previous post since it
shows hcards on LinkedIn using the Tails extension:
http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=81
Excellent.
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to help them out, and my
understanding is they're planning to follow the process. Also, one
of the key guys, Chris Heuer is friends with Tantek.
Regards, etc...
David
On 9/14/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We could, but I don't know if it's that a big of a deal.
I mean, the community
microformats when it make
sense, but internal representation is a completely different issue.
Ian
On 9/12/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where it really gets interesting is in adding mF detection to Lucene.
I'm pushing them to store people and relationships in hcard and xfn,
but so
that ultimately needs to be displayed
and manipulated by humans.
Chris
On 9/14/06, Ian McKellar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/14/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a wonder that engineers ever built a craft to go to the moon.
I've heard on good authority that was a hoax...
Here's a usecase
to pitch in.
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Sent: 12 September 2006 16:25
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Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Flock + Microformats
I have a meeting with the Flock folks today (yes, my former employer!)
and I'll drop them a hint
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Here's teh workflow for you non-Flockers:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/sets/72157594281137456/
Nice
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