Rohit Khare wrote (January 23, 2008 9:47 AM):
Last August, I announced a decision by the microformats admins to
place a seven-day hold on discussing legal and governance issues
raised by Joe Andrieu [1, attached]. Now that we've recently enacted
some wide-ranging changes to the legal status
Brian Suda (August 01, 2007 3:15 AM) wrote:
On 8/1/07, Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally, the lack of transparency is the most frustrating aspect of
this decision. Why aren't these issues laid out on the wiki and
discussed on a governance list? This sort of elusive autocratic
Hi Ernie,
Ernest Prabhakar (Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:23 PM) wrote:
On Jul 31, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
I expect that many of the leadership find this train of thought
distasteful. It is, as it stinks of unproductive legal
confrontations. But such are a part of life
completely different that works. Maybe
something from tidbits. Or morsels...
Anyway, good luck. I expect you might have more luck with the FF crew.
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distinct em elements, one with Ciaran and one with
McNulty.
http://www.w3.org/2005/Talks/0908-wcag/validity-errors.html
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Joe Andrieu wrote:
I believe that the problem is that more than a few of the
parsers use
XSLT operating on the file itself, rather than a DOM. Relying
an obvious place for a variety of
interaction capabilities, like a right-clight to select
an application to send the uF to.
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a version of it that is more friendly to
existing screen readers. That would also require updating the vCalendar
Creator.
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[1] http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-ABBR
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there, please give us a report
on where things stand.
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both uid+url and uid+source to link to related
and/or sourcing hCards without any of further
restrictions on the UID.
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Ryan King wrote:
On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Ryan King wrote:
First off, I'm not saying we should constrain UID to be a
URL, but in
the case that it *is* a URL, we can apply these semantics.
And if the uid is not an url, then authors can't assert authority
Atom terms into hCard.
(Although, I acknowledge that uid+url may also be a suitable pattern across
uFs. Again, it is all about the *should* of uids as
urls, whereas via *must* be an URL, well, an IRI which is mappable to URI for
resolution.)
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Ryan King wrote:
On Feb 8, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
I'd like to reintroduce @rel=via to the conversation[1]:
5. The value via signifies that the IRI in the value
of the href
attribute identifies a resource that is the source of the
information provided
Colin Barrett wrote:
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Moderation [was RE: [uf-discuss] Andy Mabbet's
moderation]
On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
And to say that the community had a say in Tantek's
action is about as valid
restriction.
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, ok.
Mistakes happen. In which case he should be allowed to post normally and
we should remember as a community that we don't have the wherewithal to
manage fine-tuned corrective procedures.
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of an
authoritative hCard. Services will simply have to accept that
authoritative is a claim and could be invalid for any number of
reasons.
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+1 from me as well.
Can we gauge wider support for this addition? Any problems
from anyone?
+1 from me. It addresses the issues I brought up quite nicely.
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Scott Reynen wrote:
On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Working through this leads me to think that an hCard that exists at
its
self-referenced URI should be considered authoritative.
My concern about this is that many publishers (myself included) try
to avoid linking
in the uf if there was more than one
real-world example on the wiki.
What would be the right way to make the retrieved and accessed
labels as synonymous?
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Michael McCracken wrote:
On 1/17/07, Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, date accessed has at least three more examples:
umich
ning
Google
However, they use retrieved rather than accessed,
although it is the
same meaning.
What would be the right way to make
Tantek Ç elik wrote:
On 1/3/07 5:07 PM, Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tantek Ç elik wrote:
For the record, I do object.
Joe, thanks very much for your input. You are the only
person (in email or
IRC) who has objected to banning Andy.
However, even as a lone voice (perhaps
://www.w3journal.com/4/s1.people.html
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
Joe Andrieu wrote:
For example, since it was initially stabilized hCard has
been changed
to include place in its semantics, yet we have no way to
let parsers
know that the new hCards may not be people, companies, or
organizations, but instead may also be places
of it, it seems we should probably add creating an XMDP
profile to the process? Perhaps as part of the specification stage? Or
after it once a spec has been accepted?
-j
[1] http://gmpg.org/xmdp/description
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Scott Reynen wrote:
So profile URIs are described here:
http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-uris
where it says:
it is ACCEPTED that each microformat should have a profile URI.
I agree it would help to make that more clear
://microformats.org/wiki/profiles/xfn
http://microformats.org/wiki/profiles/draft/hlisting
http://microformats.org/wiki/profiles/draft/hcite
With restricted access to the non-draft profiles.
Thoughts on how to organize official profiles?
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, it is the first poll I've seen for uF.)
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Actually, I think the -use and -create lists could easily take over the
context for ongoing discussions... They don't necessarily have to be for
newbies. The effective/innovative use of existing uF seems to be a
discussion relatively separate from developing new ones.
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. How does that look? Hence new uFs start in microformats-create
until they are ready for proposal to the main list (microformats-discuss).
That's what seems to make sense to me, at any rate. Although it is perhaps a
bit risky to start two new lists at once.
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] http://www.kaboodle.com/
[5] http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-formats
[6] http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming
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[3] http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxr_1_291.htm
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to be, who
built them, or who profits from them.
If your argument is that mega-corporations are bad and therefore we
shouldn't support mega-corporations, then I encourage you to find a
political venue for your interests instead of a technical one.
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years?
And how will code written today survive those changes? How long until an
hCard represents /any/ proper noun?
This is slippery slope. The loose discussion of the /meaning/ behind the
microformat seems only to cloud the issue further.
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data formats built upon existing and widely adopted standards.
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to immediately concretize the existing and widely adopted
standards. It's a bit shorter and to my eye a bit clearer and more
powerful.
Thoughts?
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on the wiki is listed in the dtpublished
field. That wouldn't work for the above citations.
I added the first example to the wiki. However, the APA example is
fictitious, but it is in a credible reference. Should that be added or is
that not in the wild?
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Did you look at
http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username ?
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, I
will be happy to share it with you once I have something I can demonstrate
in the way of standards-compliant working code.
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any further disambiguation, such as the version of hCard or version
of the microformat standard.
div class = hCard microformat =
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-profile;
Thoughts?
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semantic
data. Isn't that what is at the heart of the Microformats approach?
Does this make any sense?
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wheels here.
Am I missing something or is disambiguation an unresolved problem?
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